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Any other Christians annoyed at what society has turned Easter into?

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Opol · 31/03/2024 14:20

I’m resigned that the same has been done to Christmas. But for me that is “only” the birth of Christ.

As a Roman Catholic, Easter is of far more importance to me. For me, God’s love for humanity meant he sacrificed his only son. Jesus’ resurrection is literally the embodiment of the victory of light over darkness, good over evil etc.

I don’t wish to gate keep but seeing it reduced to Easter baskets and chocolate rabbits is unpleasant to witness. I’m more annoyed at society making everything hollow and superficial via consumerism and over consumption.

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Characterbuilding · 31/03/2024 18:47

Hollyhead · 31/03/2024 14:39

I find the existence of the RC church more offensive to be honest with it’s child sexual abuse cover ups, treatment of women as 2nd class citizens and the brainwashing of children by confirming them so early they have no idea what they’re promising to do.

RC confirmation takes place when children are of secondary school age, how dim do you think they are by that stage?

Brexile · 31/03/2024 18:47

@cakeorwine We are a Christian country because we have an established church.

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:48

Brexile · 31/03/2024 18:47

@cakeorwine We are a Christian country because we have an established church.

Makes fuck all difference when less than half the country identify as Christian.

CandidaAlbicans2 · 31/03/2024 18:48

Opol · 31/03/2024 14:33

I would love to see Easter celebrated even in its original Pagan way. The fact it has become void of ANY meaning beyond overconsumption is to me the issue.

This is where I kind of agree with you. I'm an atheist but I'd love to see more made of the traditional Pagan festivals, and I really dislike how commercialised so much of life is now. Any chance for companies to use clever marketing and persuade the general public to buy whatever crap they're selling, and they go for it.

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 18:48

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:33

Oh - and for reference, it's not really a Christian country.

It's a country with Christians in

We literally have an established Church, it's called the Church of England. It has a totally woke cretin as Archbishop, but that's a symptom of a crumbling society. The monarch is the Head and supreme governor.

The country may be secular, but there is no denying that it is a Christian country.

DanielGault · 31/03/2024 18:49

Sillypede · 31/03/2024 18:48

Are you sure it's not Christians who are commercialising religion?

https://www.lourdes-giftshop.com/?&clic=bing_boutique&msclkid=9b716b488322141f17340d41239bd5ee

A litre bottle of Lourdes Water only 22.41 Euros or a Miraculous Madonna illuminated Statue a bargain at 13.50

Can I get a Vatican shot glass with that please 😂

ImInTheBathRightNow · 31/03/2024 18:49

DeanElderberry · 31/03/2024 18:36

Easter is a word only used in the English language. It's some variant on Passover - eg paschaltide in every other language on the planet. The existence of a goddess called Eostre is much disputed, and Passover and paschaltide certainly existed long before and beyond the evolution of the Anglosphere.

If people want to believe in Eostre and celebrate her that's up to them, but making up unhistoric stories about the past is annoying.

Again, it isn’t ‘much’ disputed. A few people have put forward a theory to suggest Bede concocted it but it’s only been suggested by a handful of people. You’re exaggerating it to fit your narrative.

And again, why the fuck you think it’s acceptable to tell others that their religion is made up I have no idea. I would never tell you Jesus didn’t exist. Never. Yet you can sit here and say that our religious figures or festivities are make believe. The arrogance on you is utterly shocking and you are not helping Christianity come across well at all.

Yet you’re the first to whine if someone dares to criticise your God.

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:50

And the sooner State and Church are separated, the better.

Enjoy your faith, no matter what faith you are.

Just don't bring it into the State. And don't insist your Head of State is also the Head of your Church.

ExSJA · 31/03/2024 18:51

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 18:48

We literally have an established Church, it's called the Church of England. It has a totally woke cretin as Archbishop, but that's a symptom of a crumbling society. The monarch is the Head and supreme governor.

The country may be secular, but there is no denying that it is a Christian country.

I’m not in England.

SerafinasGoose · 31/03/2024 18:51

Justpontificating · 31/03/2024 18:38

OP has asked Christian people for their thoughts.
Your words are extremely offensive

OP has posted a question on a public forum. Not least, in the generalised section of 'AIBU' rather than the more specialised 'Philosophy and Religion' board which might have drawn the less general, more religious respondents requested.

That being the case, anyone can post here. That's the way discussion forums work.

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 18:51

ExSJA · 31/03/2024 18:51

I’m not in England.

And?

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:52

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 18:48

We literally have an established Church, it's called the Church of England. It has a totally woke cretin as Archbishop, but that's a symptom of a crumbling society. The monarch is the Head and supreme governor.

The country may be secular, but there is no denying that it is a Christian country.

Less than half the population are Christian.

So it may have an Established Church but most people aren't Christian.

So that's strange, isn't it?

It just says a lot about the over influence of Christanity, despite less and less people identifying as Christian

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:53

"The country may be secular, but there is no denying that it is a Christian country"

Isn't that a contradiction?

Girlwithred · 31/03/2024 18:53

What Easter has turned back to Easter? Giving eggs to celebrate spring, birth and decorating with flowers? Shocking!?

ExSJA · 31/03/2024 18:53

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 18:51

And?

So pointing to the Church of England doesn’t enhance your argument to me.

samarrange · 31/03/2024 18:53

Sillypede · 31/03/2024 18:48

Are you sure it's not Christians who are commercialising religion?

https://www.lourdes-giftshop.com/?&clic=bing_boutique&msclkid=9b716b488322141f17340d41239bd5ee

A litre bottle of Lourdes Water only 22.41 Euros or a Miraculous Madonna illuminated Statue a bargain at 13.50

Lourdes is actually a beautiful town, apart from the road leading to the religious bit, which is the tackiest place I have ever seen. You can buy plastic Popes that squirt holy water out of a hole in the top of their hats. It's actually so bad that it's funny.

On the plus side, you can get great Sri Lankan food there. There are 1.2 million Catholics in Sri Lanka and for them a pilgrimage to Lourdes seems to be what Haj is to Muslims. So there are four or five quite modest restaurants serving string hoppers, fish curry and rice, etc.

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 18:55

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:50

And the sooner State and Church are separated, the better.

Enjoy your faith, no matter what faith you are.

Just don't bring it into the State. And don't insist your Head of State is also the Head of your Church.

The Head of State, the King, is the Head of The Church of England. It's a fact.

Unwantedadvice · 31/03/2024 18:55

Easter baskets and consumerism is far more "pleasant to witness" than listening to grown adults who genuinely believe in made up fairytales about "God" and "Jesus Christ". Do you also believe in the tooth fairy and father christmas?

sheflieswithherownwings · 31/03/2024 18:56

I do see your point and really struggle with how materialistic Easter has become… and so so shallow. But I also get that for non Christian / pagans it can be about welcoming spring.

Except that I imagine for most families it becomes another day to spend a lot of money and go overboard on decorations and chocolate and doing Easter things because everyone else is doing them without giving a moments thought as to why they’re doing it. It then ends up becoming utterly meaningless and just another day for people to be fleeced into buying more stuff.

ExSJA · 31/03/2024 18:56

I spectacularly failed to answer any of DD’s detailed questions about the Easter story last week despite 7 years at a church secondary school, an A in GCSE RE and all the religious bollocks that has to take place by law in non-secular primary schools.

Turns out the local evangelical church muscling their way into her primary every Easter had no lasting impact either.

Atheism for the win. 👏

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:56

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 18:55

The Head of State, the King, is the Head of The Church of England. It's a fact.

No shit

And the sooner we don't insist that our Head of State is also the Head of the Church of England, the better

Maybe - and hear me out, an ArchBishop should have that role

ExSJA · 31/03/2024 18:56

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 18:55

The Head of State, the King, is the Head of The Church of England. It's a fact.

why though. I’d get rid of both quite happily.

DeanElderberry · 31/03/2024 18:57

ImInTheBathRightNow · 31/03/2024 18:49

Again, it isn’t ‘much’ disputed. A few people have put forward a theory to suggest Bede concocted it but it’s only been suggested by a handful of people. You’re exaggerating it to fit your narrative.

And again, why the fuck you think it’s acceptable to tell others that their religion is made up I have no idea. I would never tell you Jesus didn’t exist. Never. Yet you can sit here and say that our religious figures or festivities are make believe. The arrogance on you is utterly shocking and you are not helping Christianity come across well at all.

Yet you’re the first to whine if someone dares to criticise your God.

No medieval historians give Bede's theory (never heard of again until the Brothers Grimm come along and quote him in the 19th century) any credence.

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 18:57

ExSJA · 31/03/2024 18:53

So pointing to the Church of England doesn’t enhance your argument to me.

It makes the whole argument moot and a waste of time. So why even participate?

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