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Any other Christians annoyed at what society has turned Easter into?

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Opol · 31/03/2024 14:20

I’m resigned that the same has been done to Christmas. But for me that is “only” the birth of Christ.

As a Roman Catholic, Easter is of far more importance to me. For me, God’s love for humanity meant he sacrificed his only son. Jesus’ resurrection is literally the embodiment of the victory of light over darkness, good over evil etc.

I don’t wish to gate keep but seeing it reduced to Easter baskets and chocolate rabbits is unpleasant to witness. I’m more annoyed at society making everything hollow and superficial via consumerism and over consumption.

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cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:33

Oh - and for reference, it's not really a Christian country.

It's a country with Christians in

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 18:34

Primrosepalmtree · 31/03/2024 18:21

Religion and science are not the same. They are more like opposites.

Climate change IS a religion in and of itself. If it's not, people ought to stop acting like it is. That was the point I was trying to make.

As for that clown upthread who believes I'm a Russian bot in so far as to send me a message in what I assume is Russian, that's an example of brainwashing.

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:35

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 18:34

Climate change IS a religion in and of itself. If it's not, people ought to stop acting like it is. That was the point I was trying to make.

As for that clown upthread who believes I'm a Russian bot in so far as to send me a message in what I assume is Russian, that's an example of brainwashing.

There's scientific evidence that can be measured for climate change.

TitusMoan · 31/03/2024 18:35

Opol · 31/03/2024 14:35

“Modern day Wiccans or pagans might go outside to meditate and perform a simple ritual to welcome the spring. Another common way to celebrate the coming spring is to plant seeds”.

This is beautiful to me. What does our society push? Things more things.

I could almost get on board with you if Christians eschewed money and material things, but they don’t. The Catholic Church has always been quite keen on taking part in capitalism, from what I can see.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, etc…

DeanElderberry · 31/03/2024 18:36

Easter is a word only used in the English language. It's some variant on Passover - eg paschaltide in every other language on the planet. The existence of a goddess called Eostre is much disputed, and Passover and paschaltide certainly existed long before and beyond the evolution of the Anglosphere.

If people want to believe in Eostre and celebrate her that's up to them, but making up unhistoric stories about the past is annoying.

Wingham · 31/03/2024 18:36

DanielGault · 31/03/2024 18:15

That's simply not true. The issue is that Christianity is always stepping on everyone else's toes. My mum is a lifelong Christian, I'm not. I love her. She respects my views, and I respect hers. The problem on here is that often there is not a huge amount of respect, with a lot of the disrespect coming from the religious. So obviously, non religious will argue their corner.

Agree @iseealittle OP asked the question of other Christian’s specifically in the original post.
Having to sift through irrelevant posts 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Brexile · 31/03/2024 18:36

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godmum56 · 31/03/2024 18:37

PrincessTeaSet · 31/03/2024 18:33

Yes but I don't think they were celebrated with plastic tat, commercialism, fairy lights etc

I dunno.....I think they were always celebrated with as much material excess as was possible....feasting, beer and so on.

anxioussister · 31/03/2024 18:37

I don’t think it’s as consumptive as Christmas. I’m not Christian at all - but we still celebrate all the new life of the year and time off with people we love. As a PP beautifully said, the Christian cultural overlay on spring festival is fading as society becomes more atheist.

  • we went to junior parkrun with our children, ate hot cross buns with running friends in the back of our car in the car park, joined some family for a garden Easter egg hunt + then the children played in the garden while the grown ups had Easter lunch. A very very wholesome, celebratory day. Utterly worthwhile without religious reference.

more than happy for Christians to celebrate their resurrection story. But the ‘reason for the season’ is older and wider than the Christian tradition

Justpontificating · 31/03/2024 18:38

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OP has asked Christian people for their thoughts.
Your words are extremely offensive

anxioussister · 31/03/2024 18:38

siameselife · 31/03/2024 14:28

I agree that culturally Easter has drifted back to its pagan origins.
The Christian overlay has receded as society becomes more atheist.

Beautifully put!

Brexile · 31/03/2024 18:38

Wingham · 31/03/2024 18:36

Agree @iseealittle OP asked the question of other Christian’s specifically in the original post.
Having to sift through irrelevant posts 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Disingenuous. This is AIBU on Mumsnet, not Veryobservantchristiansnet.

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 18:39

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:35

There's scientific evidence that can be measured for climate change.

And you don't question it. At all. To do so would be the very height of heresy.

WeAreBorg · 31/03/2024 18:39

Happy Easter OP, He is risen!

I personally enjoy the fuss and the chocolate, I’d be sadder if it just passed by without any mention at all.

Slightly amused by the people who think we get a four day weekend for ‘the start of Spring’ though. Good Friday appears in my calendar not Lambing Tuesday

HÆLTHEPAIN · 31/03/2024 18:39

PrincessTeaSet · 31/03/2024 18:33

Yes but I don't think they were celebrated with plastic tat, commercialism, fairy lights etc

But they might have been had those things been available back then.

Brexile · 31/03/2024 18:40

Justpontificating · 31/03/2024 18:38

OP has asked Christian people for their thoughts.
Your words are extremely offensive

The OP is posting religious extremist stuff on a general forum. Normal people are entitled to push back.

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:41

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 18:39

And you don't question it. At all. To do so would be the very height of heresy.

When lots of scientists have scientific evidence, that is good enough for me - in peer reviewed journals.'

It's called scientific consensus. It has done us well for many year across a whole range of science theories.

Justpontificating · 31/03/2024 18:42

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:33

Oh - and for reference, it's not really a Christian country.

It's a country with Christians in

The country is Church of England.
We are not a Secular country
we are a Christian country, still!

ExSJA · 31/03/2024 18:43

WeAreBorg · 31/03/2024 18:39

Happy Easter OP, He is risen!

I personally enjoy the fuss and the chocolate, I’d be sadder if it just passed by without any mention at all.

Slightly amused by the people who think we get a four day weekend for ‘the start of Spring’ though. Good Friday appears in my calendar not Lambing Tuesday

I think it’s outdated to have bank holidays tied to a religion that is no longer in the majority in this country.

Justpontificating · 31/03/2024 18:43

Justpontificating · 31/03/2024 18:42

The country is Church of England.
We are not a Secular country
we are a Christian country, still!

Ps. For reference

DeanElderberry · 31/03/2024 18:44

@alittleprivacy · Today 17:09

Celebrating on the first Sunday after the first new moon after the spring equinox isn't especially Christian is it?

Yes it is especially Christian, rooted in Christianity's Jewish roots. It is a tradition with an origin at least 2,500 years ago, supported by abundant historic documentary sources. It is the most important religious observance for Christians.

WalkingThroughTreacle · 31/03/2024 18:44

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:41

When lots of scientists have scientific evidence, that is good enough for me - in peer reviewed journals.'

It's called scientific consensus. It has done us well for many year across a whole range of science theories.

Exactly. If a dozen highly experienced mechanics tell you that your brakes are knackered you don't doubt them just because Dave down the pub thinks he knows better "cos YouTube".

anxioussister · 31/03/2024 18:44

Opol · 31/03/2024 14:33

I would love to see Easter celebrated even in its original Pagan way. The fact it has become void of ANY meaning beyond overconsumption is to me the issue.

I don’t think this is true? I went on my son’s reception school trip to a farm last week - to see all the ‘new life of spring’ - our junior park run this morning had a bunny themed warm up and hot cross buns at the end, people get together with friends and neighbours to plot Easter egg hunts for their children. My children (3 and 7) have been jumping with excitement to spot the new trees coming in to blossom in the park + garden. I think it’s a season of real community emergence from the winter hibernation.

almost everyone I know is having some sort of Easter lunch with friends + / or family. People are pretty universally pleased about the longer days and warmer weather.

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:45

Justpontificating · 31/03/2024 18:42

The country is Church of England.
We are not a Secular country
we are a Christian country, still!

Just because we have a State Religion does not mean that most people in the UK are Christian.

With the biased question in the Census, the data is

Religion, England and Wales - Office for National Statistics (ons.gov.uk)

  • For the first time in a census of England and Wales, less than half of the population (46.2%, 27.5 million people) described themselves as “Christian”, a 13.1 percentage point decrease from 59.3% (33.3 million) in 2011; despite this decrease, “Christian” remained the most common response to the religion question.
  • “No religion” was the second most common response, increasing by 12.0 percentage points to 37.2% (22.2 million) from 25.2% (14.1 million) in 2011.

So please explain when most people in this country are NOT Christian, why is this a Christian country?

Religion, England and Wales - Office for National Statistics

The religion of usual residents and household religious composition in England and Wales, Census 2021 data.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity/religion/bulletins/religionenglandandwales/census2021

NoTouch · 31/03/2024 18:47

Non-religous familes are on holiday and want to do something special during them. They have evolved over time to what people want, with a bit of "tradition" rather than "religion" thrown in. Everyone should be free to be as religous or buy into consumerism as much as they want, and any version or mixture in between.

I could, just as easily as you, say I hate that people still follow out dated, at times harmful, religion in modern times.

You do you, let them do them.