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Any other Christians annoyed at what society has turned Easter into?

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Opol · 31/03/2024 14:20

I’m resigned that the same has been done to Christmas. But for me that is “only” the birth of Christ.

As a Roman Catholic, Easter is of far more importance to me. For me, God’s love for humanity meant he sacrificed his only son. Jesus’ resurrection is literally the embodiment of the victory of light over darkness, good over evil etc.

I don’t wish to gate keep but seeing it reduced to Easter baskets and chocolate rabbits is unpleasant to witness. I’m more annoyed at society making everything hollow and superficial via consumerism and over consumption.

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pleasenosey · 31/03/2024 18:12

I'm a Christian too and the way around this is to encourage your church to host some special Easter services and then you can honour the weekend as you want to.

This weekend our church had a beautiful, reflective Good Friday service and now I'm not long back from a 'He is risen' celebration complete with lively worship, followed by heaps of cake and chocolate. We had loads of visitors and it was a lovely, joy-filled service.

So yes, Easter has become very commercialised and I can't stop that but I can organise events and services in my area and if people want to join us to celebrate the resurrection, they can. If they don't, they won't. Celebrate/honour it as you would like to and then mentally tune out from the bits you don't like.

Yazo · 31/03/2024 18:12

@ImInTheBathRightNow apologies because I wasn't intending to mock pagans or paganisms, it was a reference to the huge amount of comments on here about paganism from people who also don't know anything about it, other than it predating Christianity and are just using it to make a point.

SerafinasGoose · 31/03/2024 18:13

ImInTheBathRightNow · 31/03/2024 17:36

From a Pagan, the irony in your post. You think it’s okay to speak down to us and say ‘there’s more to paganism than planting seeds’? Like you know anything about it? I would never come on here and say ‘there’s more to Christianity than drinking wine and eating wafers’ in an attempt to mock you.
Also no one has said a majority of this country is Pagan, very few are. And no one has said Oagans invented everything. But it is true that Christianity attached itself to current festivities and religious spaces. I also said this was clever and successful because it was.

@ImInTheBathRightNow - true. The comment 'There's more to being pagan than planting seeds' interested me, too. There are many ways of being Pagan. Wiccans, for one, can be completely secular, work without reference to dieties and embrace green witchery or kitchen witchery. For them, 'planting seeds' might form a large if not exclusive part of their practice and there's nothing at all wrong with that. Moon and seasonal rituals may or may not involve the invocation of deities: some might view themselves as Pantheists with no concession whatsoever to the neo-pagan spiritualities; others might follow the rules (sometimes prescriptive albeit less so than Christianity) of the different forms of Wicca, for eg). It doesn't matter. A major point of paganism is that every individual's path is unique to them. Paganism doesn't dictate that a failure to follow certain obligations is 'sinning', or in-fight and tell others they are 'paganing' wrongly. That's in opposition to the more didactic religions which simply require regular prayer and provide us with a set of rules to follow (not saying this is necessarily bad, just different).

Spirituality is a very personal affair and was, to me, even when I practised a Christian faith. Preaching is a turn-off. When my aunt 'found God' she quickly became such a crashing bore that it didn't take long for neighbours and even family to find any excuse they possibly could to avoid her. Pity, as she's intelligent and was quite an interesting woman before. But who wants to be held captive audience to someone's interpretation of their religion?

Nurserynono · 31/03/2024 18:14

yabu. God / Jesus no more real than the Easter bunny

Luddite26 · 31/03/2024 18:14

I'm sure when I was a kid at 3pm every Good Friday the skies used to darken and we would have a thunderstorm and it really annoys me that this no longer happens.

SpeedyDrama · 31/03/2024 18:14

Yazo · 31/03/2024 18:08

@SpeedyDrama Easter is a Christian festival and the crux of the faith, far more fundamental than Christmas. It's also a cultural festival but there isn't 'another' Easter. Pre-Christian festivals weren't called Easter. If you celebrate Easter in any way it's a bit ludicrous to be annoyed that people remind you of it's Christian roots. Otherwise don't celebrate Easter, no one forces you to. Happy whatever you want this day to be.

Except the word Easter literally comes from the pagan word Eostre. You are welcome to celebrate your appropriated religious event, you are welcome to your faith and belief in old folklore stories from the Middle East. Easter (and Christmas) have pagan roots, it’s a simple fact that irritates you more than me. And you’re quite right that no one forces me to celebrate Easter in any form, so I don’t. My children had an egg each on Friday which they didn’t really bother with, but they have zero care for anything to do with your (or anyone else’s) religious beliefs either.

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:15

What did Easter use to look like before Easter Eggs and all that?

What would people like Easter to look like?

It's Ramadan at the moment. And Passover starts in a few weeks. These religious festivals will carry on in our multi-cultural society.

DanielGault · 31/03/2024 18:15

iseealittle · 31/03/2024 18:10

I'm with you OP but you're never going to win on Mumsnet. The mere mention of Christianity brings out the worst in some people who feel the need to belittle and ridicule just for fun.
Happy Easter anyway....

That's simply not true. The issue is that Christianity is always stepping on everyone else's toes. My mum is a lifelong Christian, I'm not. I love her. She respects my views, and I respect hers. The problem on here is that often there is not a huge amount of respect, with a lot of the disrespect coming from the religious. So obviously, non religious will argue their corner.

Yazo · 31/03/2024 18:17

@pictoosh Easter isn't a celebration of fertility. Other religions may celebrate fertility at this time of year but Easter is a Christian celebration.

HÆLTHEPAIN · 31/03/2024 18:20

Opol · 31/03/2024 14:33

I would love to see Easter celebrated even in its original Pagan way. The fact it has become void of ANY meaning beyond overconsumption is to me the issue.

NRTFT

But it hasn’t. We’ve just spent the day with my husband’s family for a lovely lunch. And then our niece, nephew and their baby popped over for a cuppa. We’ll probably be going to my parents’ house for a cuppa and catch uo to spend time together with my family tomorrow. Yes, we paid for lunch but that’s not relevant as we do that occasionally and yes we’ve bought some chocolate eggs because, well, why not?

When the kids were little we used to do our own Easter egg hunt in the house and garden and printed clues off from the internet - that cost a couple of sheets of paper (so nothing). Some people choose to buy craft things of course to do that sort of thing and again, why not? People buy craft stuff at other times and it keeps kids occupied relatively cheaply. We also used to have family get togethers when the kids were little too.

I’m not sure how spending time with family and friends, or spending a little bit of money on themed entertainment for kids means it’s been commercialised and has no meaning.

EerieSilence · 31/03/2024 18:20

All it would have taken for Christians would have been staying away from pagan festivals and celebrations and try to make them Christian.
Jesus could have been in September and died in August and nobody would have batted an eyelid. But hey, celebration of winter solstice, celebration of spring, you get the green, the yellow, bunnies, gifts etc. Tough s.. you know what.

Primrosepalmtree · 31/03/2024 18:21

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 17:28

Sorry about that.

What I meant was folks who believe climate change is an emergency and that the world will burn up in a decades' time. The likes of Greta Thunberg telling people she wants them to panic and to believe that their house is on fire. That sort of messaging has caused climate anxiety in children and teenagers. The folks that don't believe any of that are often referred to as 'climate change deniers'. It's akin to someone like me saying you'll burn in eternal hell fire if you don't convert.

Luckily I'm not an extremist. I certainly didn't skip school to protest every Friday and I don't tell people that the world is on fire.

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Religion and science are not the same. They are more like opposites.

Sillypede · 31/03/2024 18:22

The damage done to both mine & my partner's family by the Catholic Church has left me quite hostile to that institution. But, I can see how it would annoy you that, despite the Church's obscene wealth and influence, it's an increasingly difficult myth to sell.

I'm sure there's a passage in the Bible that'll give you comfort, but maybe avoid this one.

"you must kill with a sword everyone who lives in that city. Destroy the city completely and kill everyone in it, as well as the animals, with a sword. Gather up everything those people owned, and put it in the middle of the city square. Then completely burn the city and everything they owned as a burnt offering to the Lord your God. That city should never be rebuilt; let it be ruined forever."

DeanElderberry · 31/03/2024 18:23

pleasenosey · 31/03/2024 18:12

I'm a Christian too and the way around this is to encourage your church to host some special Easter services and then you can honour the weekend as you want to.

This weekend our church had a beautiful, reflective Good Friday service and now I'm not long back from a 'He is risen' celebration complete with lively worship, followed by heaps of cake and chocolate. We had loads of visitors and it was a lovely, joy-filled service.

So yes, Easter has become very commercialised and I can't stop that but I can organise events and services in my area and if people want to join us to celebrate the resurrection, they can. If they don't, they won't. Celebrate/honour it as you would like to and then mentally tune out from the bits you don't like.

Yes, I think that's why I'm only mildly amused by it all rather than annoyed - I did stuff all through Lent, was in Church twice a week throughout, in church five days this week (actually six, but one of those was a funeral) (and 'church' today was a graveyard, before dawn, very appropriate), have found it all enlightening, inclusive, harrowing, enriching and ultimately joyful (as always). If some people prefer chocolate bunnies, let them at it.

And it's full-on Easter until next Sunday, and Easter season until Pentecost, so the fun doesn't end tonight.

Terrribletwos · 31/03/2024 18:23

Opol · 31/03/2024 14:20

I’m resigned that the same has been done to Christmas. But for me that is “only” the birth of Christ.

As a Roman Catholic, Easter is of far more importance to me. For me, God’s love for humanity meant he sacrificed his only son. Jesus’ resurrection is literally the embodiment of the victory of light over darkness, good over evil etc.

I don’t wish to gate keep but seeing it reduced to Easter baskets and chocolate rabbits is unpleasant to witness. I’m more annoyed at society making everything hollow and superficial via consumerism and over consumption.

But that's your interpretation. How do you know what people did after Christ was resurrected? Maybe they did something similar, like massive feasts?

Ophy83 · 31/03/2024 18:26

I'm not sure how accurate this is. My kids' very standard non-religious state primary school did a full on Easter production with a trial, barabas, pontius pilate, crucifixion and rolling back the stone.

Justpontificating · 31/03/2024 18:26

You won’t get much agreement on here despite your post asking the question of other Christians.

Yes it’s commercialised.

It’s a uk bank holiday because of the Christian connection not because it’s a celebration of Spring. We do not have a bank holiday for that.
Christmas is exactly the same

However
I think most people know what Christmas and Easter are about whether they believe or not. They do know they are about the birth of Jesus and his death…..at least.

Fireworks night however is a complete cf.
Despite the fact most on here will claim they know it’s all about burning Catholics. Not many in this country actually do and even schools are happy to have celebrations despite having catholics in their schools. That’s disgusting!!!
I don’t think King James’s law imposing all Catholics attend bonfire celebrations has even been repealed in this country.

As an aside it’s worth watching ‘Gunpowder’ with Kit Harrington playing his ancestors role in the Gunpowder plot.

Viviennemary · 31/03/2024 18:28

Opol · 31/03/2024 14:20

I genuinely wish I didn’t find it offensive but I just do.

Just don't let it worry you. There isn't any point. Just do your own thing and celebrate Easter how you wish.

Mrbumpssmile · 31/03/2024 18:28

Yazo · 31/03/2024 18:08

@SpeedyDrama Easter is a Christian festival and the crux of the faith, far more fundamental than Christmas. It's also a cultural festival but there isn't 'another' Easter. Pre-Christian festivals weren't called Easter. If you celebrate Easter in any way it's a bit ludicrous to be annoyed that people remind you of it's Christian roots. Otherwise don't celebrate Easter, no one forces you to. Happy whatever you want this day to be.

But...Eostre is the name of a goddess. Easter is named after her.

Bignanny30 · 31/03/2024 18:30

I’m not a believer, and I enjoy seeing my grandchildren doing an Easter egg hunt etc. However I also recognise that it is a Christian festival and think that more emphasis should be made on that point; in the shops and on tv etc. What makes me really mad is things like a certain supermarket that put ticks on their hot cross bun this year instead of crosses and shops that have signs saying ‘happy holidays’ rather than happy Christmas, so that they don’t offend certain other religions, even though this is a Christian country!

WalkingThroughTreacle · 31/03/2024 18:30

This sums up the main issue I have with religious people - the belief that their religion entitled them to judge and dictate to others. Observe Easter how you see fit and leave others in peace to do likewise. Judge not lest you be judged, as I believe it says in your sacred book.

GingerPirate · 31/03/2024 18:31

FuzzyPenguin · 31/03/2024 14:25

Nope doesn’t bother me at all, do you feel the same about Christmas?
In fact I rather enjoyed the chocolates that the vicar handed out this morning and the stuff bunny which made an appearance during the sermon.

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😁

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 18:31

Bignanny30 · 31/03/2024 18:30

I’m not a believer, and I enjoy seeing my grandchildren doing an Easter egg hunt etc. However I also recognise that it is a Christian festival and think that more emphasis should be made on that point; in the shops and on tv etc. What makes me really mad is things like a certain supermarket that put ticks on their hot cross bun this year instead of crosses and shops that have signs saying ‘happy holidays’ rather than happy Christmas, so that they don’t offend certain other religions, even though this is a Christian country!

Does that make you mad?

Does it happen enough to annoy you?

Thepeopleversuswork · 31/03/2024 18:32

I find it unbelievably sanctimonious and hypocritical when Christians, who appropriated the pagan festivals in the first place and who make up a vanishingly small percentage of the population, come on and lecture us about the “proper” way to celebrate certain feast days.

No one is stopping you from worshipping in whichever way you see fit but you don’t get to tell the non Christian majority what to do with their feast days, thanks very much.

PrincessTeaSet · 31/03/2024 18:33

ExSJA · 31/03/2024 14:32

Oh dear. They were festivals long before Christianity came along.

Yes but I don't think they were celebrated with plastic tat, commercialism, fairy lights etc