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Any other Christians annoyed at what society has turned Easter into?

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Opol · 31/03/2024 14:20

I’m resigned that the same has been done to Christmas. But for me that is “only” the birth of Christ.

As a Roman Catholic, Easter is of far more importance to me. For me, God’s love for humanity meant he sacrificed his only son. Jesus’ resurrection is literally the embodiment of the victory of light over darkness, good over evil etc.

I don’t wish to gate keep but seeing it reduced to Easter baskets and chocolate rabbits is unpleasant to witness. I’m more annoyed at society making everything hollow and superficial via consumerism and over consumption.

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thesleepyhoglet · 31/03/2024 17:18

HoldingTheDoor · 31/03/2024 14:51

*The thing that gets me is weddings on Good Friday and Holy Saturday, they give me the ick (there’s been a glut this year). I know it doesn’t matter to the couple, but I struggle to get enthusiastic and excited for them.). It’s just grim and makes me feel physically sick, I’ve declined a wedding invite on Good Friday in the past. But I also know I’m in the minority.

This is nuts!

Does it make you physically sick when people who follow other faiths (or none) marry on Good Friday or just Christians?

Someone on another thread refused to go to a friends child's confirmation so it goes both ways

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 31/03/2024 17:20

ilovesooty · 31/03/2024 14:24

That's not what the OP said, as I read it.

I'm an atheist but I think I understand what she means.

I'm 100% with you. Its how OP feels and they have a right to that. I and many others don't feel like that and feel like you but I'm not an atheist, but the OP and others have a right to feel as they do.

IMO. make the best out of the hols, rest, enjoy and then possibly back to the usual in a day or so

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 17:20

I am reminded of the film "Chocolat" when someone who is not religious moves to a French village and has a chocolate festival on Easter Sunday.

Lots of complaints

There is room for both. No one is stopping Christians celebrating Easter as they want to on Easter Sunday. You aren't banned from doing it.

Just like other faiths manage to celebrate their important days in this country.

Primrosepalmtree · 31/03/2024 17:22

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 17:11

Well it doesn't matter how I answer, does it? Lots of outlets say all kind of things and you think my opinions are divisive. That's fair enough. I'm not going to change them to make you more comfortable.

No, I'm not a Russian bot. I'm a human being with opinions that often go against the grain. Deal with it.

любовь и мир

Love and peace

GoonieGang · 31/03/2024 17:23

@ExSJA I will do. Never heard of it but will definitely look into it.

DanielGault · 31/03/2024 17:26

There were such hideous pronouncements during the marriage ref in Ireland from 'good Catholics ', it would have have embittered anyone against the Church. I think society in general is beyond such pronouncements now, but I feel very sorry for people of faith who are gay being spoken about (by some quarters of their church) as essentially deviants. They had to endure that on mainstream national TV. It was beyond awful. I hope they all get Easter eggs this year!

Notellinganyone · 31/03/2024 17:27

It’s originally a pagan festival.

HoldingTheDoor · 31/03/2024 17:27

Someone on another thread refused to go to a friends child's confirmation so it goes both ways

As I said in another post, I don’t think that her refusing to go to a wedding on Good Friday is nuts. If it clashes with said poster’s beliefs and Faith related events then that’s perfectly fine and understandable. What is bonkers is wanting to vomit because other people don’t share her Faith or feelings and are happy to marry on Good Friday.

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 17:28

Sorry about that.

What I meant was folks who believe climate change is an emergency and that the world will burn up in a decades' time. The likes of Greta Thunberg telling people she wants them to panic and to believe that their house is on fire. That sort of messaging has caused climate anxiety in children and teenagers. The folks that don't believe any of that are often referred to as 'climate change deniers'. It's akin to someone like me saying you'll burn in eternal hell fire if you don't convert.

Luckily I'm not an extremist. I certainly didn't skip school to protest every Friday and I don't tell people that the world is on fire.

Yazo · 31/03/2024 17:29

I find it more annoying how easy people find it to mock religion, claim that everything was invented about pagans and if this thread is anything to go by that the UK is mostly a pagan country, which it isn't. There's more to being pagan than planting seeds. Anyway, the priest at church today thanked people for gifts so it's not only secular minded people that buy things at Easter and I buy my children religion themed gifts. I find it sad that people don't understand the real reason of Easter but I do like how it's a national holiday and break for people if they're lucky enough to have the bank hols off work. Most people are celebrating a religious holiday/event at this time of year so be glad you have your faith because most people are just getting on with it.

MsCactus · 31/03/2024 17:29

Opol · 31/03/2024 14:33

I would love to see Easter celebrated even in its original Pagan way. The fact it has become void of ANY meaning beyond overconsumption is to me the issue.

But why is it annoying for people to celebrate the start of Spring without celebrating Jesus's resurrection, when it was always a celebration of the start of Spring, that Christianity took over that celebration?

It was fairly recent in history terms. Christians co-opted the festival. Why aren't you annoyed about that?

cakeorwine · 31/03/2024 17:32

Christians still get a Bank Holiday for their religious festival - unlike other religions - so it's not all bad.

Other religions don't get their important dates as official Bank Holidays.

tiredandabitfat · 31/03/2024 17:33

TinyYellow · 31/03/2024 14:22

Yabu because it is also the time of year to celebrate spring and Easter is a cultural festival as much as a religious one.

Yes, this is it, OP.

It's all a lot older than Christianity, OP.

Just like Chiristma / winter solstice / pagan festival.

KnittedCardi · 31/03/2024 17:35

Yazo · 31/03/2024 17:29

I find it more annoying how easy people find it to mock religion, claim that everything was invented about pagans and if this thread is anything to go by that the UK is mostly a pagan country, which it isn't. There's more to being pagan than planting seeds. Anyway, the priest at church today thanked people for gifts so it's not only secular minded people that buy things at Easter and I buy my children religion themed gifts. I find it sad that people don't understand the real reason of Easter but I do like how it's a national holiday and break for people if they're lucky enough to have the bank hols off work. Most people are celebrating a religious holiday/event at this time of year so be glad you have your faith because most people are just getting on with it.

Well you say that. There's loads of Jedi Knights in our neighbourhood and a fair number of Druids. If that's what they say they are, they are, right?

tiredandabitfat · 31/03/2024 17:36

Opol · 31/03/2024 14:33

I would love to see Easter celebrated even in its original Pagan way. The fact it has become void of ANY meaning beyond overconsumption is to me the issue.

Well yes, this is fair enough. I agree with this.

Easter egg hunts, lamb dinners, farm visits, egg rolling, yes.

Easter trees, Easter presents, Easter "lists", Easter decorations, no no no.

ImInTheBathRightNow · 31/03/2024 17:36

Yazo · 31/03/2024 17:29

I find it more annoying how easy people find it to mock religion, claim that everything was invented about pagans and if this thread is anything to go by that the UK is mostly a pagan country, which it isn't. There's more to being pagan than planting seeds. Anyway, the priest at church today thanked people for gifts so it's not only secular minded people that buy things at Easter and I buy my children religion themed gifts. I find it sad that people don't understand the real reason of Easter but I do like how it's a national holiday and break for people if they're lucky enough to have the bank hols off work. Most people are celebrating a religious holiday/event at this time of year so be glad you have your faith because most people are just getting on with it.

From a Pagan, the irony in your post. You think it’s okay to speak down to us and say ‘there’s more to paganism than planting seeds’? Like you know anything about it? I would never come on here and say ‘there’s more to Christianity than drinking wine and eating wafers’ in an attempt to mock you.
Also no one has said a majority of this country is Pagan, very few are. And no one has said Oagans invented everything. But it is true that Christianity attached itself to current festivities and religious spaces. I also said this was clever and successful because it was.

SpeedyDrama · 31/03/2024 17:37

Yazo · 31/03/2024 17:29

I find it more annoying how easy people find it to mock religion, claim that everything was invented about pagans and if this thread is anything to go by that the UK is mostly a pagan country, which it isn't. There's more to being pagan than planting seeds. Anyway, the priest at church today thanked people for gifts so it's not only secular minded people that buy things at Easter and I buy my children religion themed gifts. I find it sad that people don't understand the real reason of Easter but I do like how it's a national holiday and break for people if they're lucky enough to have the bank hols off work. Most people are celebrating a religious holiday/event at this time of year so be glad you have your faith because most people are just getting on with it.

‘Real reason for Easter’ - this thread has shown a multitude of times that what you believe is the ‘real’ reason for Easter was fully hijacked from other celebrations of Spring. You are absolutely entitled to your beliefs, but they’re not ‘real’ in any sense beyond your personal feelings about the holiday.

WalkingonWheels · 31/03/2024 17:37

I still can't believe that in this day and age, people still believe in god. I'll stick to my chocolate eggs and bunnies.

KnittedCardi · 31/03/2024 17:38

I find it sad that people don't understand the real reason of Easter

Also, that's your reality. Many on here have said they have other understandings of Easter. Yours is not the "real" reason. It is just one of many.

Grapewrath · 31/03/2024 17:40

I think Christians hijacking of Ostara and declaring Easter at the same time as the astrological new year means that they can’t get pissy about any of it.
Fairiy sure pagans have to suck it up that some people made it about Jesus

WalkingonWheels · 31/03/2024 17:41

tiredandabitfat · 31/03/2024 17:36

Well yes, this is fair enough. I agree with this.

Easter egg hunts, lamb dinners, farm visits, egg rolling, yes.

Easter trees, Easter presents, Easter "lists", Easter decorations, no no no.

Why are Easter trees and decorations, which are traditional in many countries, a no?

We've had an Easter tree and Easter decorations for over a century in my family. We have Scandinavian roots and they're traditional for us. I'm sorry that only your culture is acceptable.

muggart · 31/03/2024 17:41

I don't like the way chocolate needs to be a core way of celebrating every holiday or festival. It's so uncreative and lacks all meaning or symbolism. Despite what people on this thread are saying, nobody is celebrating the arrival of spring when they celebrate Easter - they are just using it as an excuse to pig out and to buy their children's happiness through chocolate without feeling guilty.

AIstolemylunch · 31/03/2024 17:41

anonhop · 31/03/2024 15:59

And the many Christians being killed for their faith every day now, as members of the most persecuted religion on earth?

Sorry what is your question?

Is it am I more annoyed about people killed by Christians than people being killed because they are Christians? Or is it am I more annoyed by people being killed because they are Christians than by people wanting to eat chocolate eggs at Easter?

Either way I find the hypocrisy of organised religion as a whole and people dying because of religion way, way, way more annoying than the commercialisation of Easter

JanewaysBun · 31/03/2024 17:41

Im Christian but even i know it's a pagan festival, new life etc. Genuinely doesnt bother me what others do

SpeedyDrama · 31/03/2024 17:42

WalkingonWheels · 31/03/2024 17:37

I still can't believe that in this day and age, people still believe in god. I'll stick to my chocolate eggs and bunnies.

Humanity can’t cope without a belief system. No matter how far we come with science, logic and discovery, people always find something that requires full immersion of belief and faith to hold on to. This absolute need to think there is something ‘beyond’ ourselves whilst ironically created from the human ego that makes us think we are more ‘special’ than any other creature on earth. There will always be these beliefs systems even ‘in this day and age’, if not religious then a cult or societal theology. People can’t help themselves it seems.