To have asked him to choose a different sandwich

[Medsy]

Don't know if it's because it's Easter or what but my local co-ops sandwich section was totally barren, only meat sandwiches left (I'm vegetarian). I saw a man go for the last cheese one there was, so I asked him if he was vegetarian and if not, would he mind if I had it? A woman (wife?) appeared and went batshit at me and called me rude.
It made me quite pissed off actually. I wouldn't have a problem with say a gluten free person asking me if they could have the last gluten free sandwich.
WIBU?

@MadAntonia The alternative for her would have been to go hungry.

And again, this nonsense. Do you think there was nothing else in the entire shop that OP as a veggie could possibly eat? No, she just wanted that sandwich. Tough.

Already discussed upthread.

I'd have less problem with them asking if they accepted no for an answer. Instead OP required the man to justify his choice to her. That's not on.

Because cheese is made from animal products.

Yes it is, is as long as it doesn't include rennet. It's not vegan.

Apparently OP's definition of someone going batshit, is someone saying "you're rude". Which she was.

Vegetarians eat some animal products like dairy and eggs, they just don't eat meat/ actual parts of animals.

Vegans avoid all animal products.

I think it was fine to ask. He was also fine to say no, as he might not like the other sandwiches they had.

I don’t eat meat, but even when I did, I’m quite fussy about sandwiches not being “mucked about with” (ie containing sauces and the like).

You could just buy some bread and cheese which would probably be nicer anyway.

@CheeryPye I think you’re confusing vegetarianism with veganism. It’s vegans that avoid all animal products. Vegetarians simply avoid dead animal.

Most (99%) cheeses use rennet to bind,

Some vegetarians avoid gelatin and animal derived rennet, some don't.

Not quite. The vast majority of cheese in the UK is now made with vegetable based rennet and is perfectly fine for vegetarians. Besides the co-op cheese sandwich is actually labelled vegetarian.

@CheeryPye do you not understand that vegetarians eat cheese and eggs? they aren't vegan.

I think we know who the batshit one is 🙄

Well yes, plastic vegetarians like the ones who eat eggs and fish but it's still not a vegetable product unless it specifically said on the pack it is made from vegetable rennet. Either way the OP sounds a bit up herself.

This happens on every single thread where a vegetarian mentions eating cheese. People always feel the need to trot out the whole ‘but cheese is made of rennet’ as a smug gotcha and it does my head in. A quick Google search will show you that 99% of cheese in the UK is made with vegetable rennet therefore is perfectly fine for vegetarians.

Being a vegetarian simply means you don’t eat dead animals. That’s it. It has sod all to do with only eating vegetables.

🤣😂

But you didn't just 'engage in conversation' as you well know.You put him on the spot and trued to manipulate him.

You're just being utterly ridiculous and obviously on the wind up now.

Basic manners have nothing to do with Brexit.

Actually ... people who are selfish and care about their own benefit tend to vote Tory. People who care about communities, others, those less well off, tend to vote for other parties. So you may have a seed of an idea in there about political leanings but once again, you've missed the mark.

Actually @Medsy I started off thinking you're a knob but now I'm warming to you! The outrage is Defcon 1 when it only needs to be a 2 or 3 at most.

But. TELL US WHY YOU WISHED HIM LUCK!

l will admit, if i were you, I would probably have said in a joking manner (which is probably passive aggressive and emotional blackmail Defcon 2 here) "oh I was just going for that one". I may have added a small (but definitely not tinkly) laugh. If he had been sandwich dithering before going for the cheese, he may have offered it, as some people are kind. I offered someone to go in front of me in the queue the other day as they only had two items. I fear that may be Defcon 4 virtue signalling here.

Right now I've given everyone an alternative target to direct their hatred towards, explain about the fucking luck thing!

I am vegetarian, have been since a student, many years ago.

cheese except Edam and others made with oil, are off limits because the vast majority of cheese is made with animal rennet - vegetable rennet is still a minority, niche market, microbial rennet uses the genes of an animal, and yet most of the world still doesn’t require vegetarian items to be labelled, hoping that has changed now!

Cheese also uses milk as an ingredient, which as we all know, cows are on running machines these days, not forgetting the anti biotics that are given
to the cows for a variety of reasons, one to keep them lactating.

I do not wear leather shoes, sit on a leather sofa, have leather clothing or accessories due to where leather comes from.

Eggs are also off limits to me, due to the environment that commercial hens live in, I eat eggs from the chickens in my back garden though.

im not a vegan, but over the years have worked out what to buy and what not to buy.

stork margarine to have fish oil in, I really don’t like the thought of killing the fish in my aquarium so I can eat abit of marg!

also washing powders etc is ecover in our house.

I personally don’t agree with any form of animal products in commercial vegetarian/vegan food, because I don’t feel comfortable with some animal husbandry in farming

Perhaps we need levels of unreasonable, like 1-5. I remember (and suspect you may @Medsy) when the AIBU topic was created and it was ages ago so it could do with an upgrade. Voting on a level of 1-5 would be really interesting. I use the app but can't fucking vote though anyway.

Co op cheese sandwiches are the cheapest - most of the chicken/bacon/breakfast ones are twice the price so there’s that too. 😬

Your huffy retort “good luck mate” certainly wasn’t “mature” …..

@ScroogeMcDuckling if you don't sit on leather sofas, what do you do when you visit someone's house and they have one? I'm imagining you squat hovering over it, in "a using a toilet at a manky service station" sort of style.

I don't actually have leather sofas myself as I hate skin sticking to it, but I'm still interested.