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To feel like I'm 'lesser' than others for living in a very small house?

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VenusPlanet · 29/03/2024 11:01

I live in a very middle class area.
But my house is one of the few that are very small. Tiny.
And I feel bad about it in comparison to others in my area that are living in much bigger, much more expensive houses.
It's an awful feeling.
I'm really sociable by nature but I never invite any friends round because all my friends live in big 4 or 5 bedroom detached houses and I'm embarrassed for them to come to mine. I have a mix of my own long term friends, and lots of mum friends who live in my area that I've made friends with from school, and every one of them lives in a large detached home, and lots of them are planning large kitchen extensions with bifolds when their kitchens are already 4 times the size of mine to start with, many of them have lovely loft conversions to create another room with ensuite, and some of them have second homes on top of this too.
My DD has made a new friend, we both got invited round for a playdate, sat in their colossal sized kitchen and the mum told me all about how they'd put a huge extension on the back of their house and created an extra bedroom with en suite in their loft "because the kids are only going to get bigger", but they already had a big house to begin with.
Then I went to collect my DS from a friend's house a few weeks ago, Ahh I thought as I walked in, at last, a house that is the same size as mine......only for the mum to greet me with the news that they are having a 6 metre rear extension and a loft conversion "because the size of this house (the same size as my house) is much too small for a family of 4". Meanwhile I live in my same sized house as a family of 4.
My house measures 18 ft wide by 25 ft deep. That's the whole footprint. My kitchen is tiny. We have no hallway. The 3rd bedroom is a tiny box room measuring 6ft wide by 9 ft.
Our next door neighbour, who we are joined on to, have a humongous rear extension, it's honestly huge, and now they are getting a double story side extension as well because "The kids are both getting bigger now (they're both in KS1 at primary school) so we need more space". They are a family of 4 like us, living in an already extended house making it much bigger than ours, yet they still think their house needs further extension.
A neighbour up the road has had a massive double story side extension to create a 4th bedroom and bigger kitchen.
A mum friend, whose house is way bigger than mine and detached with a huge garden etc., has a kitchen that is not that much bigger than mine, I mean it is about 50% bigger than mine, but not 4 times the size like other friends kitchens are. Yesterday we met up and she announced they're getting a big rear extension because of their "poky little kitchen" which will become a utility room and the 5 metre extension will become their new kitchen. But their 'poky' kitchen is bigger than mine. So why say this to me?
We will never, ever be in the position to extend, or move to a bigger house.
We could have bought a bigger, more spacious house, in a cheaper area. But we put lots of consideration in to location, and decided to buy a small house in a very expensive area that's a wonderful location.
But I didn't expect to get these feelings of unworthiness about how small our house is compared to everyone else's.
If they've all got huge houses or are getting their similar sized homes massively extended, then they must look at us in sympathy, surely? And I hate that thought, i really do.
A very old friend from childhood bought a house the same size as our house, at the same time, in a different area. After 2 years they moved up the ladder and bought a much bigger house. Recently she came round to visit with her kids and asked "Have you got any plans to move to a bigger house?" almost in a feeling sorry for me way. "No" I replied bluntly. I thought "We're struggling enough trying to pay the mortgage on this house! Let alone a bigger mortgage on a bigger house!".
Another old friend from Uni sat on my sofa moaning about the small size of her house and how they're looking to move because they can't cope with the size of their house, she currently lives in a house much bigger than mine, has the same sized family, same age kids, and she sat and moaned about the lack of 5 bedroom detached houses available in her area and how they are going to have to reluctantly settle for a 4 bedroom detached house instead, and she looked really genuinely fed up about it. I was incredulous and thought "How can you sit there moaning about your big house when you are sitting in my house which is half the size of the house you currently live in and are moaning about it being too small?!".
A mum friend came to collect her child from a playdate at our house, I was in the kitchen making her a cup of tea, and she stood in my kitchen and said "How on earth do you manage in such a small kitchen? There's only enough room for 1 person in here!".
Another mum friend came round to see me when I was ill, offered to make me and her a cup of tea, which she did, then gave it to me and said "Actually when I was making our tea I realised that there is actually space to make dinner" I was too ill to respond but I had never, ever mentioned my kitchen to this friend. Never. It was as though she'd been having a conversation in her own head about it, or as though she'd been having a conversation with someone else about my kitchen.
And another mum came round to collect her child from a playdate, and was head swivelling all over the place looking at my home. She didn't say anything. I don't know her well. But I do know that she was staring at every inch of my home in every direction in rather an exaggerated way, and I do know that she lives in a double fronted detached house with multiple rooms.
So all of this makes me feel like crap for underachieving in terms of my affordability to buy a bigger, seemingly thought of by others as what would be thought of as a 'better', house.
Am I going mad to be bothered by living in a small house and interpeting that as feeling bad about myself and feeling bad for my children that I haven't given them a big house to grow up in?
Why am I coming up against such house snobbery from people when they come to my house?
I never mention my house size, or anything about it, to anyone! I don't even comment on it to others!
My children have started making comments about how big their friends houses are when they get invited round to play, in a matter of fact way, but even they are noticing how much bigger other friends houses are compared to ours.

OP posts:
Ariela · 29/03/2024 12:31

Our neighbours were staggered to discover our total energy bills are 1/10 theirs.
However you could fit all our house in their open plan downstairs!

Honestly, everyone has different priorities in life, so I really think you're getting fretted about nothing! I'd far rather our lower energy bills.

nappyvalley2024 · 29/03/2024 12:41

bahhamburgers · 29/03/2024 11:45

I’ve been on all sides of this in my life.

Until I was 25, I lived in a tiny house with my first dh and our son who was a toddler then. I lived in a slightly less desirable area than the one a mile down the road where I used to go to all the playgroups. I was treated like scum by some of the other mothers. Even more so when ds sfarted nursery at a private school. We weren’t invited to anything as “oh, it’s sooooo far for you to come! We don’t want you to have to travel!” 1 mile. 1 fucking mile. The few who did lower themselves enough to come to our house would be so fucking condescending, “maybe when you are older you will be able to live in a nicer home, bless you!” People assumed I was a young, single mum (nothing wrong with that btw), or that I was lying about my husbands job.

Then we got very rich, and from 26 to 31 I lived in a massive house in the country. People used to bloody fawn over me like I was the second coming. I was invited everywhere. People spoke to me like I was special. They were licking my arse left, right and centre.

Then the bastard left me for his secretary, and I ended up with ds, on benefits, in a tiny flat in a posh London Suburb. Again, treated like scum by the other mothers. Talked down to, not invited anywhere, when I was spoken to it was like I was stupid. one of the mothers in ds class worked in the school office and “let it slip” that ds got free school meals, so that was fun for me. A couple of the other mothers wouldn’t let that go and mentioned it at every opportunity.

Now in my 40s, I’ve moved to what is a quite deprived area in parts in the midlands but to a large house which I own. I found out the other day that my nickname at the school gates (I have a younger child with now dh) is Kate Middleton and that I am a stuck up cow. News to me.

We are about to make a move to a much nicer town, but the houses we can afford there are very small. Already bracing myself 😂

Do you know what? I have never changed. I’ve always been the same, friendly, sociable person. People have just treated me differently because of what I have or haven’t had and the house I lived in.

So people do judge and treat you differently.

This so sad to read

the80sweregreat · 29/03/2024 12:44

An old acquaintance of mine upset me once by remarking on our small house
It does hurt and I'd never do it to anyone else.
Just ignore them all !

NarrowGate · 29/03/2024 12:46

The length and detail of your opening post worries me. These are obsessive and intrusive thoughts. I know because I’ve been there.

It’s normal to be envious of the external life of others, and people can be so crass, but you’re fixating on one single element of their lives and allowing it to destroy your own contentment and peace of mind.

It’s a hard time for counselling but I honestly think you need a GP, not a bigger house. There will always be someone with a bigger house, a nicer house, a smaller house, no house at all, and negotiating your own feelings around this will always be complicated, but when you’re healthy you think healthy thoughts and choose healthy friendships.

FWIW I live in a big and lovely house now, but actually it was DH’s, not mine. I myself grew up in a small and very unlovely house, and subsequently spent the best years of my life in a tiny flat far smaller than any of my other friends’ homes. You don’t know what is driving other people’s motives, or financing other people’s lives. Many people are the recipients of parental money or money from jobs that are the direct result of other parenting decisions or plain old good luck. Personal success and hard work is a story we tell ourselves and others, but the truth is more complex. Try to get to your friends better and their own truths will emerge and hopefully help you see they are interested in you, not your money or your house.

Leah5678 · 29/03/2024 12:51

Very relatable op, my home is very tiny literally a one bed apartment with a wall in the lounge that makes it technically a two bed apartment but the other room is extremely tiny can't even be classed as a box room. I'm a clean tidy person but it just feels cluttered because of my stuff which I need but have no where to hide it away. I never have non family guests over because it's embarrassing.
Most of my acquaintances live in three bed houses so not quite as big as your acquaintances but I understand how you feel 💖

baileybrosbuildingandloan · 29/03/2024 12:53

Comparison is the thief of joy.

Gingernurt88 · 29/03/2024 12:54

I have a 4 bed semi detached house that's been extended from a tiny 3 bed in the countryside. I actually feel awkward having people around because I feel like I'm stamping above my social upbringing. When people say "you have a lovely house with potential" I tend to feel embarrassed. I am much more at home around others houses and always have been. I love my home but I do feel a fraud sometimes. I was brought up initially in a council house surrounded by other council estates and then a tiny two bed flat sharing a room with my brother.

Basically to say not to worry about people talking about their houses as actually not everyone is like this. You've done well and if you are happy with your situation then that's yours to have and nobody should make you feel any less.

99victoria · 29/03/2024 12:56

I think you're mostly projecting to be honest. I find it hard to believe that every single person you interact with judges you for having a small house. I think the problem is you not them.
When I was a kid we lived in a 2 bedroom flat. All my friends had houses when I look back on it now but honestly it never occurred to me to compare. Our flat was my home. I shared what was essentially a single bedroom with my 2 sisters. We had bunkbeds and a single bed in an l-shaped room with a small built in wardrobe. I never got any indication that any of my friends had any opinion at all about my home
And by the way, a 6ftx9ft 3rd bedroom is not a 'tiny boxroom'. You need to stop feeling sorry for yourself and start counting your blessings OP

DaBlackCatsAreDaBestCats · 29/03/2024 12:56

Who lives where has become an obsession. It’s bordering on mental illness. It’s not where you live it’s how you live. Just be happy x

tennesseewhiskey1 · 29/03/2024 12:58

What about the children in flats? I was one of them. My parents would have given an arm to have what you have for us. It’s not a race to the bottom.

spookehtooth · 29/03/2024 13:10

Yea, totally unreasonable. My house is a similar size and I love it! I could have gone for bigger, and I could go for things like loft extension but I don't see the point. It's not how much you have, but what you do with what you have, that's where the skills & beauty lie IMO

daffodilandtulip · 29/03/2024 13:11

My house is smaller than a lot of my friends - three bed, three storey, drive and garden but I do feel looked down on for it - but I love it.

DD had a (not very nice) girl around once and she said "wow your house is tiny" and DD replied "yeah but it's full of love so".

We're the house where all the teens games days, garden parties, sleepovers happen though because the people with big houses are too precious about it.

daffodilandtulip · 29/03/2024 13:14

Also, my mortgage will be paid off in a couple of years and I can retire at 60. Why why why would I want to add thousands of pounds of debt now, just because you're "meant to" move up the housing ladder? I've got friends who will be paying mortgages till they are well into their 70s, and they are miserable about it.

UncomfortablyBig882 · 29/03/2024 13:21

You need to own your choice and be comfortable with it.

I grew up in a 3 bed apartment. My mum refused to get a house when ALL their friends were buying houses and going on about kitchen sizes etc. She said a bigger house is more money worries, more space to clean and tidy for her and my dad is useless at DYI so a house would just be a burden . So we lived in a flat but in a good location. And when 2008 hit, we were the only family NOT worried about money because my parents had not overextended themselves financially.

I don't know who these people are bleating on about house extensions but most of them are just talking about their own life, they're not making a judgement on you.

Janehasamane · 29/03/2024 13:22

daffodilandtulip · 29/03/2024 13:11

My house is smaller than a lot of my friends - three bed, three storey, drive and garden but I do feel looked down on for it - but I love it.

DD had a (not very nice) girl around once and she said "wow your house is tiny" and DD replied "yeah but it's full of love so".

We're the house where all the teens games days, garden parties, sleepovers happen though because the people with big houses are too precious about it.

That seems a little defensive to be honest. We have had these things big and small house and my kid went to similar in both and big houses.

daffodilandtulip · 29/03/2024 13:23

Janehasamane · 29/03/2024 13:22

That seems a little defensive to be honest. We have had these things big and small house and my kid went to similar in both and big houses.

No that particular friend / family were quite nasty generally. I don’t think DD would have replied like that to most people.

Janehasamane · 29/03/2024 13:24

daffodilandtulip · 29/03/2024 13:23

No that particular friend / family were quite nasty generally. I don’t think DD would have replied like that to most people.

I’m refering to your comment that you host all the kids things as anyone with a house bigger than yours is too precious about it.

daffodilandtulip · 29/03/2024 13:26

Janehasamane · 29/03/2024 13:24

I’m refering to your comment that you host all the kids things as anyone with a house bigger than yours is too precious about it.

Ok well for whatever reason, the kids with the bigger houses don’t get to enjoy it because they aren’t allowed friends over 🤷🏼‍♀️

stayathomer · 29/03/2024 13:29

I look around (iykwim) when I get into other people’s houses but it’s not to judge, it’s to see if other people do things differently because I feel so crap at the homemaking thing!!

We have a big house that we bought for cheaper than any house nearly anywhere in the county but people do know that. It had been pretty much torn apart inside and dh has loads of friends who are builders etc and they all helped in keeping costs low. I’m pretty sure people think we’re rich. If people are comparing that just makes them ridiculous!!!

All that matters in the end is that you’re relatively clean, warm, dry and cosy (from someone who once lived in a big house where the wind actually blew through the house and the ll kicked us out and nearly made us homeless when we asked could anything be done and could we take up carpet in the bathroom and one bedroom as our child was in and out of hospital with insane infections.

AmethystSparkles · 29/03/2024 13:30

I live in my mum’s attic room so you must think I’m completely worthless🙄. I also earn precisely £0.

I’m still fabulous though🙃

existentialpain · 29/03/2024 13:34

I live im a rented housing association flat whereas all my friends own houses. I couldn't care less and neither do they. No one takes their house with them when they die. Who they are matters.

Didimum · 29/03/2024 13:41

OP, kindly, this is your hang up, no one else’s, that you really need to get over. I’ll be honest, I only skimmed the last half of your post, because you complaining about the size of houses became very tiresome.

Anyone who thought less of you because of the size of your home is an arsehole who can piss off.

HollyKnight · 29/03/2024 13:42

It's obvious that they couldn't care less about the size of your house, hence why they are comfortable talking about their plans around you. This is a you problem.

Workawayxx · 29/03/2024 13:44

Surely there are some other small houses in your area?

I'm in a small home too. I sometimes feel worried about it but actually think you just expand your “stuff” to fit the space you have so you just end up with more things (to clean, tidy, store etc). Since ds turned about 11, he needs less stuff as he doesn’t play with so many toys. Kitchen workspace incredibly minimal but even if the kitchen is a bombsite it never takes longer than 20 mins or so to clean and tidy up. I think it’s also good for DC to grow up with a more modest expectation.

bonzaitree · 29/03/2024 13:46

I think you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. No one repeat no one cares that much about you or your house. They don’t give a shit. In the highly unlikely event they do give a shit then who cares. Let them think what they want.