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To feel like I'm 'lesser' than others for living in a very small house?

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VenusPlanet · 29/03/2024 11:01

I live in a very middle class area.
But my house is one of the few that are very small. Tiny.
And I feel bad about it in comparison to others in my area that are living in much bigger, much more expensive houses.
It's an awful feeling.
I'm really sociable by nature but I never invite any friends round because all my friends live in big 4 or 5 bedroom detached houses and I'm embarrassed for them to come to mine. I have a mix of my own long term friends, and lots of mum friends who live in my area that I've made friends with from school, and every one of them lives in a large detached home, and lots of them are planning large kitchen extensions with bifolds when their kitchens are already 4 times the size of mine to start with, many of them have lovely loft conversions to create another room with ensuite, and some of them have second homes on top of this too.
My DD has made a new friend, we both got invited round for a playdate, sat in their colossal sized kitchen and the mum told me all about how they'd put a huge extension on the back of their house and created an extra bedroom with en suite in their loft "because the kids are only going to get bigger", but they already had a big house to begin with.
Then I went to collect my DS from a friend's house a few weeks ago, Ahh I thought as I walked in, at last, a house that is the same size as mine......only for the mum to greet me with the news that they are having a 6 metre rear extension and a loft conversion "because the size of this house (the same size as my house) is much too small for a family of 4". Meanwhile I live in my same sized house as a family of 4.
My house measures 18 ft wide by 25 ft deep. That's the whole footprint. My kitchen is tiny. We have no hallway. The 3rd bedroom is a tiny box room measuring 6ft wide by 9 ft.
Our next door neighbour, who we are joined on to, have a humongous rear extension, it's honestly huge, and now they are getting a double story side extension as well because "The kids are both getting bigger now (they're both in KS1 at primary school) so we need more space". They are a family of 4 like us, living in an already extended house making it much bigger than ours, yet they still think their house needs further extension.
A neighbour up the road has had a massive double story side extension to create a 4th bedroom and bigger kitchen.
A mum friend, whose house is way bigger than mine and detached with a huge garden etc., has a kitchen that is not that much bigger than mine, I mean it is about 50% bigger than mine, but not 4 times the size like other friends kitchens are. Yesterday we met up and she announced they're getting a big rear extension because of their "poky little kitchen" which will become a utility room and the 5 metre extension will become their new kitchen. But their 'poky' kitchen is bigger than mine. So why say this to me?
We will never, ever be in the position to extend, or move to a bigger house.
We could have bought a bigger, more spacious house, in a cheaper area. But we put lots of consideration in to location, and decided to buy a small house in a very expensive area that's a wonderful location.
But I didn't expect to get these feelings of unworthiness about how small our house is compared to everyone else's.
If they've all got huge houses or are getting their similar sized homes massively extended, then they must look at us in sympathy, surely? And I hate that thought, i really do.
A very old friend from childhood bought a house the same size as our house, at the same time, in a different area. After 2 years they moved up the ladder and bought a much bigger house. Recently she came round to visit with her kids and asked "Have you got any plans to move to a bigger house?" almost in a feeling sorry for me way. "No" I replied bluntly. I thought "We're struggling enough trying to pay the mortgage on this house! Let alone a bigger mortgage on a bigger house!".
Another old friend from Uni sat on my sofa moaning about the small size of her house and how they're looking to move because they can't cope with the size of their house, she currently lives in a house much bigger than mine, has the same sized family, same age kids, and she sat and moaned about the lack of 5 bedroom detached houses available in her area and how they are going to have to reluctantly settle for a 4 bedroom detached house instead, and she looked really genuinely fed up about it. I was incredulous and thought "How can you sit there moaning about your big house when you are sitting in my house which is half the size of the house you currently live in and are moaning about it being too small?!".
A mum friend came to collect her child from a playdate at our house, I was in the kitchen making her a cup of tea, and she stood in my kitchen and said "How on earth do you manage in such a small kitchen? There's only enough room for 1 person in here!".
Another mum friend came round to see me when I was ill, offered to make me and her a cup of tea, which she did, then gave it to me and said "Actually when I was making our tea I realised that there is actually space to make dinner" I was too ill to respond but I had never, ever mentioned my kitchen to this friend. Never. It was as though she'd been having a conversation in her own head about it, or as though she'd been having a conversation with someone else about my kitchen.
And another mum came round to collect her child from a playdate, and was head swivelling all over the place looking at my home. She didn't say anything. I don't know her well. But I do know that she was staring at every inch of my home in every direction in rather an exaggerated way, and I do know that she lives in a double fronted detached house with multiple rooms.
So all of this makes me feel like crap for underachieving in terms of my affordability to buy a bigger, seemingly thought of by others as what would be thought of as a 'better', house.
Am I going mad to be bothered by living in a small house and interpeting that as feeling bad about myself and feeling bad for my children that I haven't given them a big house to grow up in?
Why am I coming up against such house snobbery from people when they come to my house?
I never mention my house size, or anything about it, to anyone! I don't even comment on it to others!
My children have started making comments about how big their friends houses are when they get invited round to play, in a matter of fact way, but even they are noticing how much bigger other friends houses are compared to ours.

OP posts:
Mnetcurious · 29/03/2024 15:53

I’d much rather have a small house in a lovely area where it’s very expensive to buy, than a big house in a less desirable area. Other people have different priorities but you bought your house according to yours, and were fortunate enough to be able to do so - count your blessings.
Also, comparison is the thief of joy - if you were unaware of the size of other people’s houses then you’d probably be much more content with your own.
I think the crux of it though is that you’re spending time with people who love to discuss this topic and seem to think the size of your house matters (and maybe makes you a better person - hard to tell whether this is actually the case or just your paranoia). The only time I’ve ever talked about house size with friends is if they/we have been moving to a bigger place or extending. Maybe you should seek out other friends who are more on your wavelength and don’t see house size as an interesting conversation.
I can see it from both sides as we grew up with no family money so my siblings have small, modest houses. Husband’s family have money which we’ve been very lucky to benefit from and able to buy a spacious home in a lovely area which we’ve also extended. However compared to husband’s side of the family including his siblings with their literal mansions, we are the poor relations. I know my siblings probably feel the same compared to us. Everything is relative and we all need to appreciate the things we do have, rather than the things we don’t.

PlantDoctor · 29/03/2024 15:54

Our house is similar in size to yours. We have a big garden and happy with the location, as well as proximity to family. I'm a bit jealous of friends' bigger houses but honestly quite happy with ours. Less cleaning and big enough for us!

penjil · 29/03/2024 15:56

What a long post about feeling sorry for yourself.

Just be thankful you have your own house. Millions of people in this country don't! They can't afford one, of any size.

It sounds like you need to move to an area that isn't like a mixture of Desperate Housewives and TOWIE.

ilovesushi · 29/03/2024 15:57

Your mum friends sound like twats. The important thing is that your house works for you. Don't feel bad about your house because of the rudeness of other people.

gannett · 29/03/2024 16:01

"Keeping up with the Joneses" is a toxic mindset and anyone who judges you along those lines is a toxic person.

That's the long and short of it. Our house is about the same dimensions as yours. It's my dream house. To actually come from where I've come from and own this place is huge for me. I also don't want to spend my life thinking about extensions, builders, renovations. Life's too short. All our friends extending and refurbishing their houses look so stressed. We have the right amount of space for us and I don't actually want any more.

Something funny when we first started inviting people over is that within two days a friend of mine (who lives in an ex-council flat) described it as "palatial" and one of DP's friend's wives asked if that's all there was. It's all a matter of perspective. And now we know more about the character of the latter, and she hasn't been invited back.

That feeling of constantly having to aspire, constantly feeling judged by metrics you don't even need to buy into... it's bullshit. And people who actually do judge you? They're bullshit too. You can look down on them for being superficial and awful.

Goinggreymammy · 29/03/2024 16:09

I understand.
People saying nor to compare don't get the same feeling.
I hate our house. We are cramped. My kitchen is more like a utility. I avoid having even playdates because the kids are all on top of each other and us and get annoyed by each other.
My kids definitely notice that other houses are bigger and nicer (we have avoided doing any decoration or cosmetic stuff as I have always hoped to either extend or sell.
It's not a posh area but is in an expensive city. I would honestly prefer to move to a rural area with no friends and start anew but DH and DC don't want that.
We are trying to get an extension at the moment but the prices are crazy. I think we will have to just make do with small cosmetic alterations. I am gutted.

I don't think you are being materialistic or overly comparing yourself. It's like if everyone you met always wore a certain colour or style and you were the only different person. Of course it would start to grate on you.
I don't have a solution. But I think your friends sound a bit rude!!!!

Movinghouseatlast · 29/03/2024 16:11

Yes, I totally understand. I lived in a tiny 2 up 2 down for 21 years. All my friends in the area had huge 4 or 5 bedroom houses with massive gardens.

When we had people round to dinner everyone had to get up to allow someone to go to the loo. Our spare room was tiny and basically the same size as the bed, so people staying over were really cramped. I think we both felt a bit inadequate to be honest.

We've moved now, to a much cheaper area, and have a bigger house with 3 bedrooms and it's amazing! It's a lot more to clean though.

And yes, I know I should have thought myself lucky to have a house at all...

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 29/03/2024 16:11

spudnik1 · 29/03/2024 11:11

Similar situation. Our house is small compared to all my DS friends' houses. My kitchen can only fit an oven a sink and 2 cupboards. That is it. All the appliances are in the garage.
We are expecting our second, and it will be a squeeze.
We looked at upsizing, but it would mean a mortgage of at least 150k.
Nope, it's not happening.
We are on track to retire at 55. We don't have a mortgage, so spend what we want when we want. Our child has a healthy house deposit of his own.

All this because we stayed in our first house.

I think too many people are dragged into the housing ladder rubbish.
If they ask when you are moving, just say I am going to retire early instead, plus my house doesn't take as long to clean.

This is us although me, DH and DD age 16.

One factor in our circles where we are the outlier which I think is significant on house size is that everyone we know is set to inherit a fair amount so a huge mortgage isn't a concern.neither of our sets of parents have a pot to piss on by comparison!! So while at times lots of I crave space as sometimes I crave more space (and we're hoping to get a dog this year which I know will compound things Confused) the thought of starting again with a mortgage when we're almost 50 is more terrifying!

BasiliskStare · 29/03/2024 16:13

@VenusPlanet You have a small house in a lovely location. Don't worry about other people's comments , not one jot. You are not "lesser" & that is my opinion for what it is worth.

Janehasamane · 29/03/2024 16:13

wordler · 29/03/2024 15:29

Comments about how they can’t manage in their current (large) space etc aren’t meant to get at you - they aren’t thinking about you at all. They are continually justifying the story they are telling themselves about why they are moving or extending.

It’s most likely based off a fear that they can’t really afford it comfortably and the need to justify the stretch in funds to themselves - so each time they talk about this out loud - to you, to their partners, families, other friends, they repeat the comforting phrase until it becomes an ‘unassailable truth’.

We can’t possibly live with this amount of space when the DC become teenagers.

I just can’t manage with this small kitchen.

etc etc

You asked why they say it in front of you when it’s clear you are managing in a much smaller house? It’s because they hope you’ll join them in their ‘thought process’ - you of all people will understand their pain at the need to expand.

Goodness me, what a bitter envious little comment. I mean really this says way more than you’d like about uou.

QueSyrahSyrah · 29/03/2024 16:17

Comparison is the thief of joy OP.

We live in a heavy finance industry area, lots of money floating around and lots of friends in big detached houses with land. We don't work in that industry and are about to have a baby in a small one bedroom flat, that we really hope we can trade for a 2 bedroom flat, otherwise we'll have to leave the area and our friends and family here & move to somewhere with no support nearby.

I'd kill for your 3(!) bedroom house, but I remind myself that we have a roof over our head that we own, and that already makes us luckier than many.

Anyotherdude · 29/03/2024 16:30

It’s all comparative though, OP. We brought our 2 DC up in our 3-bed semi and they are now in their 30’s.
The youngest had the box room, which was the first and second to be remodelled (the other 2 just decorated) because it was clear that he was going to feel restricted. Then he got the garden room as his personal space, as this was our best solution with what we could afford.
As every other house on our street has been extended outward and upward, ours is the last one standing as originally built - and has much greater potential to surpass the size of every other house in the street because of the sheer extent of the land available to the side and back of it.
In the meantime, we enjoy our smaller house and larger garden, in the knowledge that when the time comes to sell it, it will be a fantastic opportunity for someone else to make it their own, without having to live with all the mistakes, wait, quirks, that others done to their houses, and should be a quick sale for this reason, too!
Once all yours and the neighbours’ DC have moved out, what are those with the huge kitchens going to do with their enormous spaces? (Especially as they retire onto smaller incomes and the CoL really kicks in…)

Janehasamane · 29/03/2024 16:38

Once all yours and the neighbours’ DC have moved out, what are those with the huge kitchens going to do with their enormous spaces? (Especially as they retire onto smaller incomes and the CoL really kicks in…

to be honest we simply enjoy ours and kids come back and visit, plus friends or family over. And when th4 time comes we can downsize and enjoy the equity.

Notatthemoment · 29/03/2024 16:48

When my DC were young we lived in a big house with land and never noticed the size of friends' houses although looking back most were smaller, some considerably so. When I split up from DH we downsized but I didn't give a thought to what others thought although our cottage was very small with a tiny garden. We had to squeeze everyone in but it was a happy house and we had many a party there. I had a few snide comments from the odd person( my SIL stands out in my mind) We moved again to a bigger soulless house with far more space which I absolutely loathed and couldn't wait to leave. There was plenty of space to entertain but I just didn't feel like it. Size really isn't everything! Grin

Namehascahnged · 29/03/2024 16:57

I understand - we live in the cheapest house in a much sought after area. Its a place many wealthy retire to at an early age and as such there are many people who are in their 50s that are retired with big disposable incomes.
How do I know - because they tell me and it's evident - by words and actions .

It seems to me that they talk about money and oh my house is so big we have to ring each other(true ) because its their tribe- how they relate to each other and their values- its just their lingo for many. they dont seem - mostly- to think about the affect on anyone else because they are surrounded by people who speak their language. so they dont think.a very nice friend of ours openly talks about how at 55 she will never have to work again, how she has set the kids up for life, and her dh said to me they have so much money they really dont know what to do with it . About a painting i admired- the cost- not the joy it gave was described to me .
I was also told oh you live in a council house- emphasis on the word council- ( its ex ).
Now - whilst I am grateful for our home - for which we have no mortgage- and for which would feel the bees knees in our old town- here the constant references to wealth i am subject to most days did start to wear me down op — i get you.
After a while I thought i needed to move- but its lovely .
So - for me the trick was to realise that that is them and this is me - that is their tribe .
what they place value on .
uts hard when the majority are so rich and like to show it - its not like we have access to a wide range of people all the time. I’ve learned to check myself everytime I hear a comment like you hear - and replace giving attention to the comments with something that I value and I can do something about .
I would like their choices - but a long history of wealth or other circumstances are not what I have and I dont want getting stuck respond ing to others lives affect my own .
I think I got to where you are now feeling flooded by others and became sensitized to it - perhaps now - feeling as you do - as I did— its a good things because now you are able to acknowledge it - and now take action towards developing uour own ways of not letting it affect YOUR life - freedom from this .💪

venusandmars · 29/03/2024 17:02

@VenusPlanet (from one venus to another Grin )

I assume that you are in a house that you can afford to pay for and that you can afford to heat. That's fantastic.

Despite the size of the rooms you have spcae for your and dp, a space for dc1 and a space for dc2. That's fantastic.

You have your own front door? Maybe a wee bit of garden space (even just enough to sit on for a few sunny moments)? That's fantastic. Perhaps you even have a space to park your car...

You live in a lovely area that feels safe for you and your dc. That's fantastic.

You have made Mum friends (and your dc have made friends with kids who live nearby). That's fantastic.

You and your dc may appreciate the luxury that affords other people enormous spaces for cooking/eating/chilling/ etc, but what really makes the difference is a house that is a home. Sometimes that is a place where people are tumbling over each other and where things are bulging out of cupboards. But where there is laughter, warmth, bickering, love.

On any day I would rather spend my time with a friend in their chaotic small space filled with love, than an expanse of designer luxury where every fingerprint was a cause for concern.

I really hope you can relax into all your good fortune and dwell in the warmth and love that are important.

wordler · 29/03/2024 17:13

Janehasamane · 29/03/2024 16:13

Goodness me, what a bitter envious little comment. I mean really this says way more than you’d like about uou.

lol - what?

It’s just an explanation of a part of human psychology - and can explain the confusion the OP feels about how rude it seems that her friends are constantly talking about their need for space in front of her while she is living in a much smaller space than theirs.

It’s not something that just happens re house spaces - lots of people do this kind of ‘out loud’ justifying of internal conflicts.

Over all sorts of things good and bad.

SpikeGilesSandwich · 29/03/2024 17:14

I used to feel like this in my last home, turns out, it was mostly the people looking down on me who were the problem, real friends don't judge you like that. (I'm looking at you, snobby NCT mumsWink)

Janehasamane · 29/03/2024 17:15

wordler · 29/03/2024 17:13

lol - what?

It’s just an explanation of a part of human psychology - and can explain the confusion the OP feels about how rude it seems that her friends are constantly talking about their need for space in front of her while she is living in a much smaller space than theirs.

It’s not something that just happens re house spaces - lots of people do this kind of ‘out loud’ justifying of internal conflicts.

Over all sorts of things good and bad.

Oh cmon now. Trying to dress it up doesn’t change it. Wanting more space is a perfectly legitimate reason to extend. In fact the key reason. It doesn’t mean you can’t afford it.

heisthogger · 29/03/2024 17:17

Well you either move bigger or extend unless you're in the same boat as I am and you simply can't afford it, so you be grateful that you at least have a home. Comparison is the thief of joy OP. Nobody care about your house size only you so if you can't change it, just try and appreciate it xx

wordler · 29/03/2024 17:23

Janehasamane · 29/03/2024 17:15

Oh cmon now. Trying to dress it up doesn’t change it. Wanting more space is a perfectly legitimate reason to extend. In fact the key reason. It doesn’t mean you can’t afford it.

At no point did I ever say wanting more space wasn’t okay, but excessively going on about your explanation for something like that in terms of ‘absolute need, rather than want’ in front of a friend who is living with a much smaller space is either deliberately rude, ambivalent to friend’s feelings, or an unconscious internal justification which wasn’t meant to be rude.

OP was upset and wondering why her friend and neighbors where acting like such assholes in front of her.

One explanation is that at least some of them are subconsciously reassuring themselves about their ‘need’.

It’s something people do all the time.

Of course it’s possible her friends are just rude.

Blueblell · 29/03/2024 17:34

Assuming you bought the best house you could in a nice area with good schools? Be happy that you were able to do that.

Newhere5 · 29/03/2024 17:37

LenaLamont · 29/03/2024 11:08

No one gives a thought to the size of your house, OP. The second they leave it, it drops out of their heads.

No one looks down in you for it. They are all too busy with the stuff in their own lives. If they are used to a much larger space they might initially comment because it’s outside their experience, but no one is thinking “I must spend less time with @VenusPlanet , she’s clearly unworthy of my time because she lacks cupboard space.”

^ I am obviously exaggerating for comic effect, but seriously, don’t give it a thought.

Well said 🙌🏻

Delphiniumandlupins · 29/03/2024 17:45

Please don't feel embarrassed by your home or think you and your DC can't have friends over. I'm sure most people aren't judging you, they simply mention their extensions etc because it's a big part of their life while they're going through it. Maybe sympathise with them over the mess and expense of building work.

Most people want a bigger house, regardless of what they have. There are lots of families who would think your home is an absolute palace, so enjoy what you have earned.

Livelovebehappy · 29/03/2024 17:47

Comparison is the thief of joy. You live in a lovely area you say, which itself is a huge bonus. I like people for who they are, not because of the size of their kitchen. I have never judged or cut someone out of my life because their house is smaller than mine. You’re projecting how you think, onto others who probably don’t give a toss…