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‘Would you/have you ever dated a person of colour’ - why ask this?

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Selenaso · 28/03/2024 03:48

I’m white. A few days ago I was standing waiting for a bus and a black guy also waiting struck up a conversation with me - friendly, a bit flirty, not that serious. We were chatting about various things, and then at a certain point he said ‘can I ask: would you date a black guy? Have you ever?’ He wasn’t asking me out as far as I could tell (my bus was about to come), it was more like he just wanted to know.

It reminded me though of a couple of times in the past when I have been on dates with people who happened to be of colour (one first date which went nowhere, one first date that turned into a four year relationship), in both cases they asked me the same thing. AIBU to think this is a strange question, and not really understand the motivation for asking it? My reply to the guy at the bus stop is that I would like to date a nice person, and that is my answer, basically. I don’t want to be naive about the fact that racism both overt and covert still exists in the UK, it obviously very much does, but I really would not expect the vast majority of people my age or younger (I’m late 30s), or honestly most people ten years older, to see an interracial relationship as an issue or really even think about it in those terms, unless they had some very specific issues like an overtly racist/BNP type family (if white) or maybe a fairly traditional recent immigrant family who were hoping their child would marry someone of the same cultural heritage/religion (if of colour).

However the fact that people of colour have repeatedly asked me this question on dates suggests they clearly feel it is a potential issue for at least some white people, and I don’t want to be clueless as I assume if they’re feeling that, it’s based on some experiences with white people that they’re having. Maybe the aim of the question is to try and suss out stealth racism, but surely a white person who is on a date with a person of colour, even if they do have covert racism or unconscious bias, is not going to admit to it so in that sense I don’t get what the question is intended to achieve? And I don’t understand the point of asking if you’ve been in a relationship with a person of colour before? If you say yes, is that somehow going to make this current completely different relationship better? Or is the aim to try and suss out if you’ve got some weird fetish and only date people of a particular race (like some white men are meant to have a weird fetishising thing about Asian women)?

I know I should have asked the person why they were asking the question, either in the bus stop conversation or more productively the person I had a long relationship with, but somehow at the time I didn’t think to do it, the conversation moved on and we had other things to talk about. It’s only looking back that I’m wondering why this question repeatedly gets asked. AIBU?

YABU - it’s obvious why someone would ask, and here’s why
YANBU - it’s a strange question

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ForestBather · 28/03/2024 06:56

I'd find it a strange question thrown out from someone random at a bus stop. If the context fits in general conversation with someone I'm more acquainted with, maybe it could come up, but to me it is a strange question because colour is not a deciding factor for me on who I would date. I date people because of who they are and because I think we might have a connection that could go somewhere.

Maybe this man has had bad experiences in the past that have led him to ask the question before he asks someone out?

I don't think whether I have dated someone of a different race to myself reflects whether I would or wouldn't though. It could just be that I haven't had the opportunity where I've met someone that would mean I could answer yes.

Selenaso · 28/03/2024 06:56

ghlily · 28/03/2024 06:52

There is just so much racism in society. Black people are frequently told by white people that they don’t date black people, so that’s where the question comes from. I say this as someone who has been told this to my face.
Also having to deal with comments such as “you’re pretty for a black girl”. That’s the reason the man felt the need to ask such a question.

Thanks for your reply. I’m so sorry people have behaved like that to you.

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ForestBather · 28/03/2024 06:59

ghlily · 28/03/2024 06:52

There is just so much racism in society. Black people are frequently told by white people that they don’t date black people, so that’s where the question comes from. I say this as someone who has been told this to my face.
Also having to deal with comments such as “you’re pretty for a black girl”. That’s the reason the man felt the need to ask such a question.

That's sad and I'm sorry you've had those experiences. As a white woman, I wouldn't think twice about dating a black man if I was drawn to him as a person. Anyone who had a problem with it wouldn't be part of my and his life anymore.

GKD · 28/03/2024 07:02

ghlily · 28/03/2024 06:52

There is just so much racism in society. Black people are frequently told by white people that they don’t date black people, so that’s where the question comes from. I say this as someone who has been told this to my face.
Also having to deal with comments such as “you’re pretty for a black girl”. That’s the reason the man felt the need to ask such a question.

This was my immediate thinking.

And yes, you speak well (I’m cockney AF), are eloquent, knowledgeable, presentable etc for a black girl. 🙄

My DH recently got told ‘oh you don’t see many black men out alone with their DC, different mums, yes?’ WTF?

fecking exhausting.

Josette77 · 28/03/2024 07:04

I think you're lucky you don't know why they're asking.

Racism is still rife in society.

And don't quote MLK. It sounds so douchey.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 28/03/2024 07:08

Bridgetta · 28/03/2024 06:01

You wouldn’t seriously go out with some randomer that hit on you at a bus station? It’s a rude question tbh and it’s not their business, quite frankly.

My ds met her dh at a bus stop…

Tempnamechng · 28/03/2024 07:09

I've been asked the question, very many years ago when i was on the dating scene. I assumed it was a genuine question about how you feel about mixed race relationships. It was probably more relevant in the 90s as mixed relationships were 50/50 acceptable amongst the younger generation, but absolutely frowned upon by some older people. My parents would have been absolutely fine if I brought a black man home, but I know some uncles and my grandparents would have been very upset.
More to the point, he was flirting, which is perfectly acceptable at a bus stop (laughing at pp who think otherwise) - did you like him, and are you going to make sure you are at the same bus stop again @Selenaso? 😉

GKD · 28/03/2024 07:13

@Tempnamechng puts a new spin on ‘do you come here often’! 😊

ChanelNo19EDT · 28/03/2024 07:17

Coincidentally · 28/03/2024 05:23

I would not get into a conversation about dating with a casual person at a bus stop! He was out of order -like a bald man chatting to you and asking if you works ever date a bald man.

Yeh just like some strategy, chipping away at a strangers boundaries. I am chatty at bus stops btw. I'm not the one who never talks to or answers strangers! But "yeh the weather is cold for mid march" or "that bridge in baltimore, whoa"

NotAVampire · 28/03/2024 07:17

Seems to me he just fancied you and that was his chat up line to see if he had a chance. Bit of a confronting personal thing to ask and I really wouldn’t be falling over myself to justify my preferences to a total stranger at a bus stop, but many people wouldn’t see anything wrong at all with asking this so it’s probably not worth over thinking.

If he was creepy and giving unwanted sexual advances of course that’s different.

BreakingAndBroke · 28/03/2024 07:25

I've been asked this question too. I've also been asked "are you pure?" before. It's obviously very intrusive. Like saying "so, who have you had in your fanny before?"

ChanelNo19EDT · 28/03/2024 07:27

Are you pure? Grrrrr that'd infuriate me. What is the answer to that. Are you pure yourself? Eugh

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Selenaso · 28/03/2024 07:33

Tempnamechng · 28/03/2024 07:09

I've been asked the question, very many years ago when i was on the dating scene. I assumed it was a genuine question about how you feel about mixed race relationships. It was probably more relevant in the 90s as mixed relationships were 50/50 acceptable amongst the younger generation, but absolutely frowned upon by some older people. My parents would have been absolutely fine if I brought a black man home, but I know some uncles and my grandparents would have been very upset.
More to the point, he was flirting, which is perfectly acceptable at a bus stop (laughing at pp who think otherwise) - did you like him, and are you going to make sure you are at the same bus stop again @Selenaso? 😉

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It was a one-off work trip to a city I don’t live in so I won’t be at that bus stop again, but yeah I don’t have any issue with non-aggressive bus stop flirting either, wasn’t quite expecting such a strong negative response to that! I think some of the replies here make it clear that I’m being naive about how overtly racist some white people can be to people of colour, and that is likely part of what was motivating the question. I’m very sorry to hear that.

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FlamingoYellow · 28/03/2024 07:33

I would assume it's either a) a weird attempt at chatting you up or b) he's had a bad experience asking out a white woman before and is testing the water.

My frame of reference for dating is a bit old (15 years!) but, as a white woman, I've never been asked this, and would probably feel a bit uncomfortable in the moment if I was.

YireosDodeAver · 28/03/2024 07:34

If it's happened 3 times it will likely happen again so planning a response for next time isn't a bad idea.

How about That seems like a very strange question to me - it sounds like you are asking "Am I a racist?" - is that what you are meaning to ask?

Justbrowsing2024 · 28/03/2024 07:41

I have asked that question before.. the responses I got included...

  • no but you look like you would taste like chocolate
  • no but some of my friends are black
  • no but I'd love a go
-yes, I don't see colour
  • yes, I only date black girls
-yes but I couldn't tell my family. -no but you are pretty / speak well for a black girl

When I attempted online dating some of the responses were horrific to be honest.
The UK is racist. But those who do the investigations and tell us it isn't aren't the ones experiencing racism. And it's getting more blatant.
I have asked the question out of curiosity and alot of responses told me all I needed to know.
I would have cringed if someone quoted MLK at me though haha.

MCOut · 28/03/2024 07:41

ghlily · 28/03/2024 06:52

There is just so much racism in society. Black people are frequently told by white people that they don’t date black people, so that’s where the question comes from. I say this as someone who has been told this to my face.
Also having to deal with comments such as “you’re pretty for a black girl”. That’s the reason the man felt the need to ask such a question.

That’s why I think this is nonsense they tell themselves, particularly for men.

Online dating wise, it’s different because they can filter black women out, but in person they are quite happy to tell you that you’re the exception whilst shooting their shot. I know that there is nothing special about me and two minutes on a London road will yield black women who are smarter, kinder, more witty and more beautiful who they would be more than happy to date.

Ggttl · 28/03/2024 07:41

It is a standard chat up line to get you talking.

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Devilshands · 28/03/2024 07:54

Ggttl · 28/03/2024 07:41

It is a standard chat up line to get you talking.

It’s a crap one if it is….

Lwrenn · 28/03/2024 07:54

@ghlily whoever said that to you I hope, with absolute sincerity, falls arsehole first on a cactus. Thrice 😂

What a absolute royal cunt to say that. That's knocked me sick, did you say anything or did you just feel too stunned?

I bet the absolute fucking plank thought that they were being complimentary. What a bellend!

Not remotely the same, at all, please don't think I'm saying it is, but I went on a date once, (OLD) and the bloke kept saying I'd be a 10 if I just lost 2 stone.
Joke is on him, now I'd be a 10 if I lost 4 😂😂
I just told him I was bored and was going but honestly, the audacity of some people is truly outstanding.

I'm genuinely shocked people even think that, let alone say it. How disgusting 😤

Hopefully you weren't really upset and just pitied their absolute idiocy.

2mummies1baby · 28/03/2024 07:57

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Yes- it's quite an American term, equivalent to BAME over here, but used more widely.

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