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Bikini sleeve trend, to not think it deserves so much praise!

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marbleeffect · 27/03/2024 18:33

Huge trend here at the moment of several Mum friends / colleagues going to Egypt for the fashionable new trend of having a Bikini Sleeve operation. I have 4 friends and several more acquaintances that have had it done recently. Off to Egypt they go, return home, disappear for a few weeks then slowly reappear several stone slimmer. The 4 friends I know have lost 33 stone between them.
AIBU to think having this procedure done doesn't deserve as much adoring praise as it gets?
Lots of FB / Insta comments of "Well done!"
They are all in debt from having it done and now considering getting in more debt for follow up operations to rid them of the excess skin.
I'm probably very naive at the recovery process, I've no doubt it is difficult and painful but I worry about the example it is setting.
Thoughts?

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newtlover · 27/03/2024 18:36

I have never heard of this it sounds gross
if this is the norm in your circles perhaps think about moving in different circles?

Caluse · 27/03/2024 18:39

It's gastric surgery for people over 40bmi. Do you really know loads of people who are having it done?

Toothbrushh · 27/03/2024 18:39

Wtaf is it.

Agree with pp

DrJoanAllenby · 27/03/2024 18:39

Egypt?

It's a gastric sleeve via keyhole surgery as I have just googled it.

Personally I think people are mad to endanger their lives by having surgery abroad.

The four women you know are lucky and I hope they don't have complications further down the line.

I also think it's laziness not to lose the weight through diet and exercise unless they have a medical condition. If they have a medical condition it makes it even riskier to go abroad.

The simple solution to all this is of course not go get fat in the first place but sadly everywhere you look today there are loads of overweight and obese people.

marbleeffect · 27/03/2024 18:43

I @DrJoanAllenby I agree 100%.
That's what I meant by setting a bad example (for Children).
In my circle it was a domino effect, 1 friend got it done then another followed suit after seeing her results, then another etc.. same as work colleagues.
I couldn't think of anything scarier than leaving my DH & DCs, boarding a Plane alone and having an operation abroad all in the name of weight loss. Not to mention the financial issue!

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Smartiepants79 · 27/03/2024 18:51

I literally know no one who would even consider this.

PurplePanda1 · 27/03/2024 18:51

When I saw the thread title I was thinking it is some kind of sleeve attached to a bikini top. I’ve never heard of it before.

Very risky having something like that done abroad I would think.

Candleab · 27/03/2024 18:54

So just a gastric sleeve?

I had this done abroad. My BMI was 46 and I'd suffered my whole life with an eating disorder.

I had borderline thyroid issues.
I was prediabetic
I had digestion issues
I felt suicidal.

My BMI is now 26 and I have a life. I can play with my kids, walk places and not be ashamed of myself.

It wasn't for cosmetic reasons, it was to save my own life.

marbleeffect · 27/03/2024 18:55

@Smartiepants79 I was VERY surprised when my closest friend out of the 4 said she had it done, everyone believed she was going to Egypt for a Holiday. Don't get me wrong, she is the happiest I have ever seen and in love with her new size but it's so scary!

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Misthios · 27/03/2024 18:57

Off to Egypt for surgery. What could possibly go wrong. 🙄

Candleab · 27/03/2024 18:58

And just because they needed the surgery doesn't mean they don't deserve praise.

You have to go on a liquid diet. Reintroduce soft foods. Learn to break all the habits that made you obese in the first place.

It's a lifelong commitment and it's extremely hard.

I'm proud of myself for losing over 100lbs even if it was aided by surgery because it was bloody tough.

ComtesseDeSpair · 27/03/2024 19:01

Most people whose weight is significant enough to qualify for this sort of surgery have spent years yo-yo dieting with limited success. If they eventually decide that they want to take a drastic step for the benefit of their health then that’s ultimately a good thing for them, rather than “laziness.” I’d be proud of and supportive of my friends rather than judgemental.

marbleeffect · 27/03/2024 19:02

@Candleab I don't doubt it is a difficult recovery process, I've heard the stories about liquid diets and introducing foods etc. but if there's that much work following the procedure, surely the same amount of work could have been put in losing the weight in the first place, without being a thousands of pounds worse off?

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WhoaJayShettybambalam · 27/03/2024 19:02

Oh I thought it might be about tattoos!

Candleab · 27/03/2024 19:05

marbleeffect · 27/03/2024 19:02

@Candleab I don't doubt it is a difficult recovery process, I've heard the stories about liquid diets and introducing foods etc. but if there's that much work following the procedure, surely the same amount of work could have been put in losing the weight in the first place, without being a thousands of pounds worse off?

Do you not think I would have done it without the surgery if it were possible 😂

I tried EVERYTHING.

Weight watchers
Slimming world
VLCDS
Hypnotherapy
Keto
Personal trainers
Dieticians
Gym meneberships
Saxenda injections

I had an eating disorder and no will power.

The sleeve took away my ability to give in.

I didn't have a choice. I couldn't 'give up and start again Monday'

I couldn't just have a cheat day.

My stomach was removed. I had to do it.

That's why it's successful for people who have failed every other avenue because it's permanent and serious.

CharlotteStreetW1 · 27/03/2024 19:06

My friend had a gastric sleeve done in Turkey and has lost over five stone in less than a year. She has rheumatoid arthritis and says it has been life-changing and she is in so much less pain. Other weight-related issues have also eased apparently. We go away together and sadly she was beginning to hinder the rest of us which made her very unhappy.

It cost £3k all in, including flights etc. She did have some problems with a post-op bleed which necessitated more surgery (must have been terrifying as she was on her own) but is fine now although I don't know what the long term looks like food-wise and weight maintenance etc. The short term recovery sounded utterly miserable.

She didn't tell anyone before because everyone would have tried to talk her out of it which is true. I'd probably have been loudest!

I could probably do with some weight loss help and could afford it but I'm a massive coward. I'm really glad it's worked for her but the thought of it makes me shudder.

idontlikealdi · 27/03/2024 19:09

Never heard it called that.

No I wouldn't go to Egypt for surgery. I wouldn't go to Egypt full stop.

Flufferblub · 27/03/2024 19:09

I'm over weight, and I have struggled with my weight since I was 16. I'm now almost 40. I'm too scared to get this done, but good luck to the people who are successful with it. If I could guarantee no complications, then maybe I'd consider it. I'm too afraid of dying on the operating table, or getting an infection or bleed or something.

Scarramoosh · 27/03/2024 19:09

I thought this was going to be about bikinis with sleeves attached! 😆

CharlotteStreetW1 · 27/03/2024 19:09

Where does "bikini" come into it though?

idontlikealdi · 27/03/2024 19:10

CharlotteStreetW1 · 27/03/2024 19:06

My friend had a gastric sleeve done in Turkey and has lost over five stone in less than a year. She has rheumatoid arthritis and says it has been life-changing and she is in so much less pain. Other weight-related issues have also eased apparently. We go away together and sadly she was beginning to hinder the rest of us which made her very unhappy.

It cost £3k all in, including flights etc. She did have some problems with a post-op bleed which necessitated more surgery (must have been terrifying as she was on her own) but is fine now although I don't know what the long term looks like food-wise and weight maintenance etc. The short term recovery sounded utterly miserable.

She didn't tell anyone before because everyone would have tried to talk her out of it which is true. I'd probably have been loudest!

I could probably do with some weight loss help and could afford it but I'm a massive coward. I'm really glad it's worked for her but the thought of it makes me shudder.

£3k for pre op, op and post op care, accommodation and flights, food, meds. Fuck me she's lucky it wasn't a butchers.

WhoaJayShettybambalam · 27/03/2024 19:11

@Candleab Well done. It sounds life changing (and saving) for you. Do you have any advice for anyone thinking about this? Someone that I work with has considered it and said that she has struggled to find a balanced view on it.

ghislaine · 27/03/2024 19:11

I thought it was a new fashion in sleeves, a la bell sleeves or a batwing sleeve.

Is it so-named because that’s where the incision is? Or you have a sleeve so you can wear a bikini?

Meowandthen · 27/03/2024 19:12

ComtesseDeSpair · 27/03/2024 19:01

Most people whose weight is significant enough to qualify for this sort of surgery have spent years yo-yo dieting with limited success. If they eventually decide that they want to take a drastic step for the benefit of their health then that’s ultimately a good thing for them, rather than “laziness.” I’d be proud of and supportive of my friends rather than judgemental.

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With these private clinics it isn’t about qualifying, it’s just about paying.

marbleeffect · 27/03/2024 19:14

@Scarramoosh 🤣🤣🤣

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