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Bikini sleeve trend, to not think it deserves so much praise!

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marbleeffect · 27/03/2024 18:33

Huge trend here at the moment of several Mum friends / colleagues going to Egypt for the fashionable new trend of having a Bikini Sleeve operation. I have 4 friends and several more acquaintances that have had it done recently. Off to Egypt they go, return home, disappear for a few weeks then slowly reappear several stone slimmer. The 4 friends I know have lost 33 stone between them.
AIBU to think having this procedure done doesn't deserve as much adoring praise as it gets?
Lots of FB / Insta comments of "Well done!"
They are all in debt from having it done and now considering getting in more debt for follow up operations to rid them of the excess skin.
I'm probably very naive at the recovery process, I've no doubt it is difficult and painful but I worry about the example it is setting.
Thoughts?

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LiterallyOnFire · 28/03/2024 10:28

Lanawashington · 28/03/2024 08:45

@marbleeffect I think it's more the fact that the poster has been slating fat people, saying how awful they look and then it turns out their son was overweight. When it was him it's justified and he has his multiple reasons why he was overweight, but when it's someone else they are just fat and lazy...

Youngsters are really the only group who have any statistical chance of losing it and keeping it off, anyway. Even then it's not a big proportion of people who'll manage it, and we don't know that PP's son will keep it off long term.

MattDamon · 28/03/2024 10:56

MorrisZapp · 27/03/2024 19:19

I don't believe anyone who is a size 16 got a gastric sleeve, sorry.

'Size 16' is a meaningless term anyway these days thanks to vanity sizing.

whynotwhatknot · 28/03/2024 11:07

Shizzlestix · 28/03/2024 07:06

The NHS may not do bloods/B12 injections, although my GP is delighted I’ve pretty much resolved my medical issues and was extremely keen to organise follow ups. If there’s an issue beyond the initial residual gas pain which can last a few days-mine was minimal and disappeared after some simple walking/swinging arms/hot water bottle-then of course you can access the NHS if you’re unwell. The group I linked has recommended surgeons in the UK and abroad. Research is key.

im gladyoure well just thinking worse case scenario

Juliansfunkyshoes · 28/03/2024 12:31

Sorry, but hell no.

People hate fat that much they risk their lives not to be. Its sad.

Still cant get over the story of the woman whose tit went septic and black and her nipple fell off, among other complications from a weight loss surgery abroad. The Doctor literally wiggled her fat in his hand in front of her face while she was on the table.

Shizzlestix · 28/03/2024 17:12

Beautiful3 · 28/03/2024 09:05

How does it stop you from being addicted to food? Genuine question. At some point is the sleeve removed? Hypnotherapy might be a better alternative to stop binge eating.

Because so much capacity is removed, you cannot really overeat. Saying that, there are multiple posters on the surgery group I use who have asked about a revision to a bypass, which also involves malabsorption and the ‘next step’ of a sleeve has not worked wonders. My neighbour says a friend had a sleeve and ‘it didn’t work’. Ime, you would need to eat entirely the wrong thing for it not to work.

I went to the canteen at work today, they do free meals on training days. I had a piece of melon and some grapes and was full (I should have prioritised protein). It is extremely uncomfortable to try to eat more once full. Being full might be a half a ramekin size in the early days.

BamberBoozlerGrewUp · 28/03/2024 18:40

flutterby1 · 28/03/2024 06:34

Maybe I'm wrong but I feel that people that have this lose sight of the fact that it CAN be done naturally by metabolic physiological processes in the body. It feels like you opt for surgery then have no choice but to eat little portions afterwards, eat properly etc. the surgery has forced you into it whereas one could have done it the natural way if they exerted the willpower, saved the physical abuse of the body with the strain and dangers of surgery and saved thousands of pounds for both the surgery and the excess food people no doubt eat until the last minute before slimming down for the surgery .

You are wrong, as has been explained numerous times.

For most very obese people, especially those who have dieted over prolonged periods, it is not possible to lose and maintain a substantial amount of weight. The body has lost the hormone regulation to govern when it is satisfied and when it is hungry, and the metabolism doesn't work as it should due to the requisite hormones not functioning properly.

BamberBoozlerGrewUp · 28/03/2024 18:43

LiterallyOnFire · 28/03/2024 07:15

No I didn't think it was you. Still a ludicrous but of marketing. There is much to be gained than nice bikini photos. It's a public health issue.

I do sympathise with you if your socials are full of "Bikini sleeve - you go girl!!!" Very grating and trivialising.

It's nothing to do with marketing. Its called a bikini sleeve because the incisions are in the bikini area as opposed to the abdomen.

BamberBoozlerGrewUp · 28/03/2024 18:50

The sleeve can "not work" quite easily. It restricts how much you can consume in one portion. But it isn't a great amount of time before you can eat again, so you could theoretically repeat that portion every hour. Foods which require little breaking down (crisps, chocolate, cake, soups, ice cream etc etc) can also be eaten more easily than those higher in protein.

The bypass will cause dumping pretty quickly when you consume too much of a fatty or sugary food. It makes you really quite unwell so you're unlikely to repeat the experience. The bypass also works by reducing the amount of calories absorbed through the digestive system, but that also means the amount of nutrients absorbed is reduced.

queenMab99 · 28/03/2024 18:52

People who do this, are probably desperate, not lazy. You may not want or need to do it yourself, however it is not supportive or kind, to be judgemental towards your friends.

ALongHardWinter · 28/03/2024 18:52

Scarramoosh · 27/03/2024 19:09

I thought this was going to be about bikinis with sleeves attached! 😆

Same here! 😂😂😂

crew2022 · 29/03/2024 09:31

@LiterallyOnFire you misunderstood me.
I'm saying the NHS is broken and can't afford bariatric surgery which does keep people alive longer term, when they can't afford surgery for a 10 year old who will have her life cut short.
I agree bariatric surgery is important and personally think it should be prioritised before gender reassignment etc but the reality is, there's no money.
So if people can afford to go to Egypt then I doubt the risks are worse than in a poorly staffed under funded NHS hospital.

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