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To be furious with the Joke Party?

302 replies

IClaudine · 27/03/2024 09:18

Jonathan Gullis a party chair.

The ridiculous, lying, AI generated videos with the American B movie voiceover.

Blaming the sick and disabled for the state of the economy.

Meanwhile, children are going to school hungry, in dirty clothes and tired as they are living in conditions that don't enable proper sleep. The NHS is crumbling.

The Tory government is no longer a functioning government. It is a corpse, shambling towards its final demise.

AIBU to be furious and sickened and to wonder how on earth anyone could now bring themselves to vote Tory?

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JessS1990 · 28/03/2024 08:42

DuncinToffee · 28/03/2024 08:29

He is the MP for Islington North and standing again as an independent candidate

And he's a very naughty boy.
He organised a wolf pack to eat all the unicorns grazing on Brexit's sunny uplands.

Jason118 · 28/03/2024 08:43

Prayers?

SerendipityJane · 28/03/2024 08:47

DuncinToffee · 28/03/2024 08:35

They changed from pledges to promises (or maybe the other way round) and are now The Plan?

edited to say, it could have been Priorities

Something with the letter P

Edited

Possibilities ?
Potentials ?

We're so through the looking glass now that I am waiting (not expecting - waiting) for some superluminary Tory to pop up on national media and insist with a straight fact that it was never "pledges" even as a clip of Rish! announcing his 5 pledges is playing.

Eerie harking back to the Boris "there are no cameras here" Johnson days.

Tlolljs · 28/03/2024 08:54

DuncinToffee · 27/03/2024 13:57

63 Tory MP's are standing down at the next GE, many respected ones amongst them.

Yes mine being one of them. I am a labour voter, however I can see why people would vote for him.

AdamRyan · 28/03/2024 09:09

SerendipityJane · 28/03/2024 08:32

Isn't the official line that they weren't "pledges" ? (Mysteriously at the same time as not-in-power Starmer gets held to every cough he's made).

Did I imagine the speech where he said we could hold him to it? Or was that the integrity, accountability and professionalism one? I'm so confused.

SerendipityJane · 28/03/2024 09:14

AdamRyan · 28/03/2024 09:09

Did I imagine the speech where he said we could hold him to it? Or was that the integrity, accountability and professionalism one? I'm so confused.

<Tory shill mode>I think you misunderstood, but it's quite understandable as you are a think member of the public. But don't worry I'm here to provide the truth. What Rish! - and let us remember the difficult circumstances he inherited - would be the first to say that rather than concentrating on simplistic concepts of competence and success, the wider picture is that Keir had a beer and ... (contd page 94)"</Tory shill mode>

for shits and giggles I'd ask the thread if they can seriously suggest a Tory MP that they can't imagine saying that.

Snugglemonkey · 28/03/2024 09:30

DuncinToffee · 27/03/2024 12:31

What would be sensible reasons to vote for the Conservatives?

A person who cannot afford a 20% rise on their children's school fees would have a sensible reason to vote for them.

domineastronomy · 28/03/2024 09:36

In answer to a PP I will vote Tory ( this time) as my MP lives in my town and has been brilliant on local issues that are important to me. He will definitely keep his seat for those reasons.
I would definitely prefer JC to KS as Pm and subscribe to the Morning Post not the Daily Mail. Tricky to put people in boxes isn't it?

AdamRyan · 28/03/2024 09:37

Snugglemonkey · 28/03/2024 09:30

A person who cannot afford a 20% rise on their children's school fees would have a sensible reason to vote for them.

Yeah thats true. But that person would also have to discount the 1 in 3 children living in poverty or the 90 odd % at state school dealing with the lack of teachers, crumbling concrete etc.

I'm glad you've been honest about it, but it does indicate the self-interest that I always associate with Conservative voters.

Moonmelodies · 28/03/2024 09:41

DuncinToffee · 27/03/2024 12:31

What would be sensible reasons to vote for the Conservatives?

Fear of public services being worse under an alternative administration?

domineastronomy · 28/03/2024 09:41

Morning Star!

SerendipityJane · 28/03/2024 09:46

I'm glad you've been honest about it, but it does indicate the self-interest that I always associate with Conservative voters.

As one who understands hysteresis, it's inevitable to have a transition between limits. Self-interest when dialled up will eventually kill the golden egg laying goose. By the same token, unconstrained altruism will also see no one eating.

It's the way of life. It's society behaving exactly like foxes and rabbits.

Jovacknockowitch · 28/03/2024 09:49

JessS1990 · 28/03/2024 08:42

And he's a very naughty boy.
He organised a wolf pack to eat all the unicorns grazing on Brexit's sunny uplands.

Unlikely considering he was an ardent Brexiteer for 99% of his life

SerendipityJane · 28/03/2024 09:55

Jovacknockowitch · 28/03/2024 09:49

Unlikely considering he was an ardent Brexiteer for 99% of his life

So was Mrs Thatcher.

JessS1990 · 28/03/2024 10:07

Snugglemonkey · 28/03/2024 09:30

A person who cannot afford a 20% rise on their children's school fees would have a sensible reason to vote for them.

If that were a reason for voting, then presumably in 2019 when there was a 23.68% in employer TPS contributions (not fully funded for state schools, and effectively a tax on all schools since it just goes into general taxation) followed by further significant increases including one due in a few days those people would not vote for the party that introduced those increases to private school fees?

JessS1990 · 28/03/2024 10:09

SerendipityJane · 28/03/2024 09:55

So was Mrs Thatcher.

Did she eat the unicorns that Jeremy "wolf" Corbyn missed?

SerendipityJane · 28/03/2024 10:17

JessS1990 · 28/03/2024 10:09

Did she eat the unicorns that Jeremy "wolf" Corbyn missed?

I think she would have had JC for breakfast.

She hated Europe. But - unlike Brexiteers - she loved Britain more.

domineastronomy · 28/03/2024 10:18

Corbyn's a vegetarian btw...

Snugglemonkey · 28/03/2024 10:18

AdamRyan · 28/03/2024 09:37

Yeah thats true. But that person would also have to discount the 1 in 3 children living in poverty or the 90 odd % at state school dealing with the lack of teachers, crumbling concrete etc.

I'm glad you've been honest about it, but it does indicate the self-interest that I always associate with Conservative voters.

I am not a Conservative voter. Never have in my life. I cannot vote for labour though. I do nit want my children's lives disturbed moving school. We will need to move house. We will move away from our friends and our community. I am sorry that children are living in poverty. I grew up in a council house, I get it. But I cannot vote for a party who will ruin the life I have worked so hard to establish.

JessS1990 · 28/03/2024 10:26

domineastronomy · 28/03/2024 10:18

Corbyn's a vegetarian btw...

He's a wolf.

Fear not, Brexit unicorns contain no meat, only hot air.

domineastronomy · 28/03/2024 10:34

And Angela Rayner is Little Red Riding Hood?

JessS1990 · 28/03/2024 10:36

domineastronomy · 28/03/2024 10:34

And Angela Rayner is Little Red Riding Hood?

I don't know, you'd probably best ask the poster who was adamant yesterday that Jeremy Corbyn is a wolf.

DuncinToffee · 28/03/2024 10:40

Snugglemonkey · 28/03/2024 10:18

I am not a Conservative voter. Never have in my life. I cannot vote for labour though. I do nit want my children's lives disturbed moving school. We will need to move house. We will move away from our friends and our community. I am sorry that children are living in poverty. I grew up in a council house, I get it. But I cannot vote for a party who will ruin the life I have worked so hard to establish.

Fair enough, you have done well under a Tory government and they have your vote.

Not sure why you would have to move house away from your friends and community.

domineastronomy · 28/03/2024 10:41

And he's by no means the only one.
I don't think Starmer will survive a full term.

JessS1990 · 28/03/2024 10:47

DuncinToffee · 28/03/2024 10:40

Fair enough, you have done well under a Tory government and they have your vote.

Not sure why you would have to move house away from your friends and community.

Because the Tory government has so underfunded state schools that those near where the PP lives are not fit for their precious to attend.

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