To be furious with the Joke Party?

[IClaudine]

Jonathan Gullis a party chair.

The ridiculous, lying, AI generated videos with the American B movie voiceover.

Blaming the sick and disabled for the state of the economy.

Meanwhile, children are going to school hungry, in dirty clothes and tired as they are living in conditions that don't enable proper sleep. The NHS is crumbling.

The Tory government is no longer a functioning government. It is a corpse, shambling towards its final demise.

AIBU to be furious and sickened and to wonder how on earth anyone could now bring themselves to vote Tory?

I imagine Labour party members and MPs like those of every political party will want to back a winner, and it is abundantly clear that Starmer will be a winner in the vote that matters this year.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

I’ve must faith in all politicians too.
First last the post should be changed to PR.

If the NI reduction was re instated and the money guaranteed to go to the nhs then I think that could help. I would vote for that.

⬆️I’ve lost faith ..
first PAST the post ..

The only person who I know who is vocal over who I should support is Tory.

She always says "but Boris got the vaccines done" and "they are all as bad as each other".

She's yet to convince me on this basis 🤣

Yes Starmer will definitely win but there are wolves circling.
And we can only hope for a large majority as any arrangement with the LibDems would be an absolute disaster for women.

Who are these wolves?

In what way would the LibDems be more of a disaster for women than the current government who have funcitonally decrimnalised rape?

They are the ones who have been eating all the unicorns in the sunny Brexit uplands.

Chief among them is the pack leader who some call But JC, others think he is a very naughty boy.

When this shit show of a government call a GE and Labour have a manifesto to critique I'll happily do so.

In the meantime they aren't in power so I can't actually say what they have done - it's not their place to be doing or to have done.

But I was very impressed with their windfall tax idea that the Tories also supported and implemented - so clearly even they agree Labour have had great ideas!

Those that vote to the left genuinely cannot believe that people would knowingly vote for something that would not only not benefit everyone, but would actually harm those more vulnerable, or not as wealthy. ‘Worked hard’ is utterly meaningless. Most wealth hinges on what family you’re born into, and working 3 minimum wage jobs is no less difficult than building your own business, just the rewards are dramatically less. We can’t believe how you can look at what is happening to state education, state health and the growing numbers living in poverty and still vote Tory. My husband and I both work full time, many many hours. We can afford an hour a day central heating. British Gas boss had another record raise. British Gas made record profits. Kids are being schooled in tents and living in squalor. It’s like fucking Victorian Britain. If that’s what you’re voting for, own it. Labour won’t bankrupt the country any more than the Tories have, Tories just don’t like where Labour might look for the money to support more people in need.

Sorry, I should have said an arrangement with the LibDems would be a disaster for women and children.
And I say this as someone who canvassed for and voted for them.

I have wandered over to FWR. I am apparantly a MRA enabler, a useful idiot and a man. They sure know how to recruit people to their cause over there.

And the non-dom abolition plan which the Tories on MN ridiculed. Until their party stole the idea.

What makes you @domineastronomy think that the LibDems would be more of a disater for woman and children, than the current government and all the cuts they have made to services that particularly help woman and children?

@IClaudine
I'm sorry you felt uncomfortable on FWR.
The women on there are often angry and frustrated but usually open to reasonable debate.

This is literally the only answer you will ever get from a Tory. I've never seen a thread where they have the courage of their convictions.

Quite. They aren't particularly open to other perspectives and I say that as a dyed in the wool feminist and previous board stalwart.
I'm not going to repeat what was said about me the other day but suffice to say I'm not sure it's a very representative view of how women will vote.

I'd believe it if people said why

If single issue GC women want to vote Tory nothing anyone says is going to change their minds.

I like Keir Starmer and I'm looking forward to him being Prime Minister.

@AdamRyan
It always surprises me that you spend so much time there. Literally hundreds of posts. Why invest so much time if you are so unhappy?

Anyone who had to plough through Jonathan Livingston Seagull will love this.

@domineastronomy while you are here, could explain how the LibDems are so much worse tha the Tories in your view?

TW lots of swearing in those Twitter posts.

I wandered in there by mistake having posted on a thread in Active. I got the same reception as @IClaudine and am in no hurry to go back.

I am a feminist so not that surprising I'd post on a feminist board. I don't recognise your name though? Do you read and not post?