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AIBU?

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Lord above some people are just... unbelievable!

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DuIcieDomum · 25/03/2024 14:29

There's an Apache MK1 final flypast today [yawn] which DP and DS (autistic, this comes under one of his special interests) have been banging on about for days. They made flasks of cocoa and set up deckchairs in one of our fields (we live on a farm) to sit and watch it. Anyway it was delayed by 45 mins so they came in to eat lunch and then went back out...to find two men sitting on the deckchairs eating sandwiches waiting for the flypast Hmm. There was a third man with a dog with them, who actually asked DP to put our dog on a lead because his dog is nervous of other dogs!!

Now, this was in our field which is private land. The field is visible from a footpath but the footpath just goes past the gate and doesn't enter the field. They just saw our deckchairs and though it looked like a nice place to go and sit.

DP said sorry but no, they'd have to take the dog out of the field if it wasn't ok with other dogs, and that he and DS wanted their deckchairs back. A bit of harrumphing and the men left but... WTF?!?

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 25/03/2024 22:01

WrenNatsworthy · 25/03/2024 20:10

Only 8% of land in the UK is permitted for public use. I'm thinking that someone sat in your deckchair is a first world / diamond shoes are too tight problem.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/17/england-public-trespassing-reclaim-our-countryside?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Do you open your garden and or house to the public?

WearyAuldWumman · 25/03/2024 22:02

I live in a Scottish town which is now basically a dormitory town for one of the big cities. I happen to have a large back garden with a decent sized shrubbery.

There's a public path alongside the length of my front and back gardens. It leads to a football park. Beyond that, there's woodland.

There are two primary schools close by. I found out from the neighbours that local children were using both my gardens as a picnic area during lunch hour, while my late husband and I were both at work. No one ever challenged them, of course.

We also had a problem with 'courting couples' making use of the back garden in the evenings.

The garden is now an overgrown mess, following building work and family illness. I'm now trying to get it back into shape, but it's taking a long, long time. However more recently, during lockdown, I had a problem with dog walkers coming into the garden after their dogs got in because they'd been let off the lead. There are clear boundaries - fencing and hedges all round - but the council butchered their side of the hedge, meaning that dogs could slip through the stick fence at the back.

In the end, I used up all the scrap wood in the garage - used my multitool to cut points on the end of each piece of wood, screwed a couple of cross bars onto the existing fence posts, affixed the spare wood as uprights and painted it all with the leftover Cuprinol in the garage.

I posted a pic on FB and a friend commented that it looked as if it had been constructed by Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

It works, though.

Scarramoosh · 25/03/2024 22:02

Oh god, my in laws do this when we visit their relatives up North. Last time we went, MIL in law insisted we went on a drive through the area her mum grew up, and then made us go up the driveway to the house where a former neighbour of her mum had once lived. This house was set back in woodland and secluded, a long dirt track to drive up where it was clearly signposted as 'PRIVATE'. She then insisted we all got out the car to go wandering around the garden and peering in through the windows, so she could give us a tour. Lights and a TV were, so people were home!

I refused to get out of the car as I thought this was so inappropriate, and trespassing! But she was just "Oh they won't mind, they'd probably like to meet us, and can tell them all about mum and blah blah blah".... why would these total strangers, just minding their own business watching tv in their own home, want to meet the random daughter of an elderly woman (who'd moved from the area in her teens) just because that elderly woman once upon a time knew the person who had once lived in that house decades ago?

I kicked up a bit of a fuss, saying how rude and intrusive this was, and insisted we left. MIL said I was being silly and had spoiled things. But MIL lives in the countryside, fairly secluded herself, and if some randomer with a family in tow decided to come up her driveway, peer into her windows and mooch about, she'd be straight on the phone to the police and sending FIL out with the air rifle!

It's madness how some people think they're entitled to just commandeer other people's private spaces without any thought for their privacy or legal ownership.

DisforDarkChocolate · 25/03/2024 22:02

I was tempted to view a house with a public footpath in front of it, not now. I can all too easily see random people in my garden chairs now.

MaybeRevisitYourWipingT3chnique · 25/03/2024 22:15

WrenNatsworthy

I agree with you to a great extent when we're talking about the super-rich and aristocrats who only want to have 50,000 acres of largely unused land so that they can distance themselves from the great unwashed and casually slip it into conversation all the time to try to impress people.

Yes, they have the right to spend their money as they see fit, but for a lot of them, the history of where they got their money (and influence) is murky in the extreme.

However, when somebody has any amount of land that they actively work and farm, in order to produce food that feeds a great many people, I'm thoroughly grateful to them for doing so and I don't begrudge them their private rights to it one bit.

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 25/03/2024 22:15

WrenNatsworthy · 25/03/2024 20:29

I was referring to your view and the land, not your earnings.

This is AIBU. I think you were quick to get cross and offended when you could have been friendly, so YWBU.

Yet more proof that the #bekind brigade just wants people to sit down and shut up, ignoring the behaviour that led to the “unkindness” in the first place. Much easier to blame the victim for their reaction rather than take a look at yourself.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 25/03/2024 22:18

FourLeggedBuckers · 25/03/2024 17:41

I frequently have to chase entitled idiots out of private property where they have no right to be, because they think they have a god given right to interfere with livestock.

And they have the audacity to argue back, even when you point out they’re endangering the animals with their loose dog / putting themselves and their kid / dog at risk, as well as just being damn rude.

I totally sympathise, OP.

I once asked a person take herself and her dog off our field. She replied “but it’s god’s land” to which I replied “No, it’s my land!”

OutOfTheHouse · 25/03/2024 22:20

MaybeRevisitYourWipingT3chnique · 25/03/2024 16:35

Not quite the same thing, but I've always thought that about people who live in houses with blue plaques on them. Whilst it would be amazing to be living in such an acknowledged part of history, it must be awful having people constantly walking up your pathway to look at the plaque and probably also have a further nosey at the property.

It wouldn't even just be people who were particular fans of the person commemorated, as I'm sure that many people would automatically go and look more closely upon noticing any blue plaque.

Somebody on our street had one of those 'vanity' blue plaques that somebody presumably bought her from a catalogue - about half or a third the normal diameter and much thinner - and says something like "Shirley Peterson, born 1954 - Former Teacher, Housewife and Mother and much-loved Nanna". Apart from a potential security risk for ID theft, they look to me more like a memorial to somebody who has died rather than a present to give to somebody still very much alive.

Near my folks there is a farm in the village that had a blue plaque. The problem was that to attach it to the actual farm house it would be unreadable from the street and as it’s still a working farm, not to mention private property, they don’t want random people in the yard. So the blue plaque is on a building opposite.

FourLeggedBuckers · 25/03/2024 22:20

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 25/03/2024 22:18

I once asked a person take herself and her dog off our field. She replied “but it’s god’s land” to which I replied “No, it’s my land!”

“And on this land, I am god!” 😀

Ketzele · 25/03/2024 22:20

I live in London, in a pub converted into flats. It still has a wide forecourt, rather than a gated garden, and it's amazing how many people come in to have a peer, talk to my window-hammocked cats, or drop their rubbish in our bins. It's as though people dont clock it as real housing, because it doesn't look the norm.

One of my neighbours had a viewing day recently, and I swear every single person waiting for their slot came for a nosey through my big window. Sadly for them I like to sit and read on the other side, so they were all shocked to see my big vis gurning back at them. Probably wrecked a few sales.

Cabbagepatchkid2 · 25/03/2024 22:23

I’d find that funny tbh!

Iamtheoneinten · 25/03/2024 22:23

WrenNatsworthy · 25/03/2024 21:32

Er no... I don't care!
I don't need to 'win'. You do you and be all furious, I'll chill in my bed. 😘

Edited

Probably for the best.

crockofshite · 25/03/2024 22:25

MereDintofPandiculation · 25/03/2024 18:01

Don't be silly.

Cocoa is much better than tea or coffee if you're sitting outside on a chilly days. Or are you thinking they should be drinking vastly overpriced hot chocolate instead?

What's the difference between cocoa and hot chocolate?

FoxyLoxyLoo · 25/03/2024 22:28

DH reminded me of another (among many) incidents from last summer. I have 3 senior horses (24, 28 and 29), people were feeding them loads of things over the wall of the field they’re in so I ran electric fencing around 3 metres inside the field to stop them getting treats. A parent drove up to the house and was screaming at DH incessant with rage that her child had been zapped by the fence because he only wanted to feed the horses apples. There’s signs up warning of the fence and asking people to not feed the horses. 🤦‍♀️

Dextersenergy · 25/03/2024 22:28

I think my best one was having to get people to move their camper van off the drive. They'd driven in the open gates, and pulled over onto some grass at the side. The van was locked and there was nobody in sight. The gates were open because a delivery van had been in and as I was going out I hadn't bothered shutting them. Lesson learned.
I got back to find chairs out and tea being cooked. They were most indignant when I told them they were about to be locked in. Funny now, but at the time quite stressful, they were quite unpleasant about it.

Dextersenergy · 25/03/2024 22:29

FoxyLoxyLoo · 25/03/2024 22:28

DH reminded me of another (among many) incidents from last summer. I have 3 senior horses (24, 28 and 29), people were feeding them loads of things over the wall of the field they’re in so I ran electric fencing around 3 metres inside the field to stop them getting treats. A parent drove up to the house and was screaming at DH incessant with rage that her child had been zapped by the fence because he only wanted to feed the horses apples. There’s signs up warning of the fence and asking people to not feed the horses. 🤦‍♀️

Oh God I nearly lost a horse to colic after someone fed her a bag of apples.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 25/03/2024 22:35

crockofshite · 25/03/2024 22:25

What's the difference between cocoa and hot chocolate?

Hot chocolate is sweetened and may have milk powder mixed in with it so it's instant. Cocoa is made just from cocoa powder, milk, and sugar if you want it. You make it by mixing a little milk with the cocoa powder and then carefully mixing in the hot milk. Much nicer than hot chocolate to my mind.

FoxyLoxyLoo · 25/03/2024 22:37

Dextersenergy · 25/03/2024 22:28

I think my best one was having to get people to move their camper van off the drive. They'd driven in the open gates, and pulled over onto some grass at the side. The van was locked and there was nobody in sight. The gates were open because a delivery van had been in and as I was going out I hadn't bothered shutting them. Lesson learned.
I got back to find chairs out and tea being cooked. They were most indignant when I told them they were about to be locked in. Funny now, but at the time quite stressful, they were quite unpleasant about it.

We live near the route for the NC500. We’ve wakened up to vans blocking our drive and have had the odd occasion of them opening gates, driving into fields and getting annoyed when we refuse to let them wild camp. We have a sign at the gates now to say please don’t ask for water or to use our facilities. It’s madness in summer.

Some people have no sense when it comes to horses, people were trying to feed mine bread and all sorts, it’s not as if they look starved.

AngkorWat · 25/03/2024 22:39

WrenNatsworthy · 25/03/2024 20:29

I was referring to your view and the land, not your earnings.

This is AIBU. I think you were quick to get cross and offended when you could have been friendly, so YWBU.

Is if expected that everyone should be quite happy that random strangers tresspass all over someone’s property and owners should be nice and friendly.

Are owners not allowed to be upset by that….really.?!

Lets all open our land and gardens and houses then and see how everyone feels about that

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 25/03/2024 22:43

AtomicBlondeRose · 25/03/2024 21:10

In the summer I was sitting on a beach, having left the normal amount of space between me and the other people on it, and a family came and set up camp so close to me the son was literally sitting on my bag.

I had something similar. Was sitting on my towel a few feet from the water's edge, peacefully looking out to sea. This bloke came walking along with his dog and stopped in front of me, throwing a ball into the sea and just standing there, blocking my view. He must've known I was there but totally ignored me. Could've moved along a bit. I kept waiting for him to carry on walking, which he did eventually, but he was there for 20 minutes!

EcstaticMarmalade · 25/03/2024 22:44

Live in a scenic tourist area. In our last house a group of tourists came by and picked flowers off a shrub in our front garden until I knocked on the window and glowered at them.

Lovemycat2023 · 25/03/2024 22:47

I work next to an RAF base (in SE England) and saw four helicopters go past in formation. Was that the flypast? I enjoy the planes and chinooks but am a bit clueless about the other helicopters!

Upallnight2 · 25/03/2024 22:49

FoxyLoxyLoo · 25/03/2024 22:28

DH reminded me of another (among many) incidents from last summer. I have 3 senior horses (24, 28 and 29), people were feeding them loads of things over the wall of the field they’re in so I ran electric fencing around 3 metres inside the field to stop them getting treats. A parent drove up to the house and was screaming at DH incessant with rage that her child had been zapped by the fence because he only wanted to feed the horses apples. There’s signs up warning of the fence and asking people to not feed the horses. 🤦‍♀️

Good.. they deserve to have their child zapped if they're that entitled!

mitogoshi · 25/03/2024 22:55

Not quite on the level of these but I'm fed up with people using our private residential car park to park for the beach, i moved two people on yesterday alone (i was cleaning seagull poo off my car again and caught them) but i can't be there all the time and I'm fed up with no parking being available when i get home from work

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 25/03/2024 22:56

Gettingonmygoat · 25/03/2024 17:55

I always find a shotgun pointed at their dog makes them move. Friends of ours have a farm with fields that are beside the beach, they have cattle including a bloody huge bad tempered bull and every year they have a couple of dozen bullocks. They put signs on the gates telling people their are bulls in the field. More than once he has come across idiots unloading tents to put up in his cliff top field. They even stand there and argue that they are entitled to pitch a tent where they want. I personally would tell them to crack on and stand back and watch the fun

Nominating this for the "get orrrffff me land" post of the week 😂

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