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Lord above some people are just... unbelievable!

342 replies

DuIcieDomum · 25/03/2024 14:29

There's an Apache MK1 final flypast today [yawn] which DP and DS (autistic, this comes under one of his special interests) have been banging on about for days. They made flasks of cocoa and set up deckchairs in one of our fields (we live on a farm) to sit and watch it. Anyway it was delayed by 45 mins so they came in to eat lunch and then went back out...to find two men sitting on the deckchairs eating sandwiches waiting for the flypast Hmm. There was a third man with a dog with them, who actually asked DP to put our dog on a lead because his dog is nervous of other dogs!!

Now, this was in our field which is private land. The field is visible from a footpath but the footpath just goes past the gate and doesn't enter the field. They just saw our deckchairs and though it looked like a nice place to go and sit.

DP said sorry but no, they'd have to take the dog out of the field if it wasn't ok with other dogs, and that he and DS wanted their deckchairs back. A bit of harrumphing and the men left but... WTF?!?

OP posts:
MaybeRevisitYourWipingT3chnique · 25/03/2024 20:58

wandering about peering in people's windows

I misread that at first. Peering into your windows is bad enough, but it would be even worse without the 'r' !!

Ihearyousingingdownthewire · 25/03/2024 21:00

DuIcieDomum · 25/03/2024 20:25

Gosh, diamond shoes Hmm

I presume you aren't aware of just how little most farmers actually earn then?

The average wage for a farmer is something like £23k!

I think they think everyone is landed gentry making millions and millions.

The things the general public have done to and in our land is utterly mind blowing and enraging.

AtomicBlondeRose · 25/03/2024 21:02

This isn’t quite the same but it honestly left me boggling at what goes through people’s minds.

At the weekend we were on the beach - a very windswept and not at all crowded beach. DD stayed at the top part playing with the stones - she was making a little stone ring, enjoying stacking them nicely. I was wandering looking for fossils and DP was taking photos. The top part where DD was playing was deserted. Literally she was the only person on there. It was all the same terrain with no obvious path across it.

A big group of about 12 people came down the steps and across the stony part - remember, there was no path and NOT ONE OTHER PERSON on this section - and all of them, to a man, walked so close to DD they were literally brushing sleeves with her, their feet catching on the (obvious) stone ring she was building and knocking it. They weren’t trying to knock it over or anything like that, it was as if she was actually invisible. I was some way away but saw this really clearly! Why on earth is that where you would choose to walk on an otherwise empty beach? Through a child’s little building project? I was honestly open-mouthed.

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 25/03/2024 21:06

Keeprejoining · 25/03/2024 20:51

I blame some of it in the number of hedgerows which have been lost. Hedges used to run along footpaths and bridle ways and fields and then it was obvious that the lane was private, now a lot of fields look like open park land and it's no wonder people think that they have a right of access

Yip, and who cut out the hedgerows- the farmers. Any farmers posting on here about nit making money need to relocate to Scotland because they all seem to be loaded here!

Upallnight2 · 25/03/2024 21:07

AtomicBlondeRose · 25/03/2024 21:02

This isn’t quite the same but it honestly left me boggling at what goes through people’s minds.

At the weekend we were on the beach - a very windswept and not at all crowded beach. DD stayed at the top part playing with the stones - she was making a little stone ring, enjoying stacking them nicely. I was wandering looking for fossils and DP was taking photos. The top part where DD was playing was deserted. Literally she was the only person on there. It was all the same terrain with no obvious path across it.

A big group of about 12 people came down the steps and across the stony part - remember, there was no path and NOT ONE OTHER PERSON on this section - and all of them, to a man, walked so close to DD they were literally brushing sleeves with her, their feet catching on the (obvious) stone ring she was building and knocking it. They weren’t trying to knock it over or anything like that, it was as if she was actually invisible. I was some way away but saw this really clearly! Why on earth is that where you would choose to walk on an otherwise empty beach? Through a child’s little building project? I was honestly open-mouthed.

I've had this a few times, I can't fathom why people do it. Last time was probably a freezing November day on a nearly empty beach when a guy decided to practically tread over my 5 year old sandcastle, then stop and start bellowing to someone about half a mile up the beach 🙄 as if there was no other better place to stand

AtomicBlondeRose · 25/03/2024 21:10

Upallnight2 · 25/03/2024 21:07

I've had this a few times, I can't fathom why people do it. Last time was probably a freezing November day on a nearly empty beach when a guy decided to practically tread over my 5 year old sandcastle, then stop and start bellowing to someone about half a mile up the beach 🙄 as if there was no other better place to stand

In the summer I was sitting on a beach, having left the normal amount of space between me and the other people on it, and a family came and set up camp so close to me the son was literally sitting on my bag.

DuIcieDomum · 25/03/2024 21:10

Sidebeforeself · 25/03/2024 20:56

I now want to know whats the difference between cocoa and hot chocolate?!

Less characters so faster to type.

OP posts:
catscalledbeanz · 25/03/2024 21:19

People are appallingly cheeky, and incredibly disrespectful of land laws in particular.

However I have been the intruder too- entirely by accident (the hedgerow issue is real- though it's somewhat naive to suggest it's farmers fault they're gone. They took upkeep and work that current with profit margins within the farming industry can rarely maintain) and the lady who caught me and my children was one of the cruellest bitches I've ever come across. She shrieked a litany of swear words at us and threatened to shoot us if she ever saw us again, as I tried explain and apologise and also ask where the correct path was, she spat at my terrified weeping daughter (then 4) and told me take the "mewling Bitch " off her land. However many rude tourists and idiots she had encountered in her field doesn't matter to me, she was a dreadful person who I hope suffers daily paper cuts. But that's anecdotal.

Yanbu op. Cfers

FourLeggedBuckers · 25/03/2024 21:20

Hedgerows do not keep the general public out. I speak from experience there. That’s a woefully feebly excuse.

I presume that the people who want to reclaim land for the public have absolutely no idea how much work goes into maintaining land.

Nice grassy fields don’t stay nice grassy fields without a lot of work. Woodland needs managed to remain safely accessible, and to be kept safe from rampant deer populations. Crops don’t grow themselves…

If you’re not prepared to take responsibility for the work, or pay for it, you don’t deserve to enjoy the pretty views on the sunny days.

Ellie56 · 25/03/2024 21:21

Sadly it doesn't surprise me at all. I have thought for some time that we are now living in the Age of Entitlement.

EdithStourton · 25/03/2024 21:22

@HappyHealthy23
When I asked them to leave, they started shouting at me about how I disrespectful and unwelcoming I was.
A farmer friend of mine is sick of one of his fields being treated as a public park, complete with picnickers and litter. He asked one large group to move, and they stood in a circle filming him and threatening to post it on social media.

I came home one day to a woman listening to a live band at the pub. All well and good, except she was leaning in my doorway as if she owned the bloody place, and gave me a filthy look and a harrumph when I asked her to move so I could actually get back into my own sodding house.

WrenNatsworthy · 25/03/2024 21:27

Iamtheoneinten · 25/03/2024 20:40

Stating
Only 8% of land in the UK is permitted for public use. I'm thinking that someone sat in your deckchair is a first world / diamond shoes are too tight problem
when replying to a farmer and linking to the appropriate Guardian Link isn't a lighthearted tone.

AIBU is a place for debate, no? The OP triggered my thought about land ownership, and I remembered the article as I only read it recently.
I thought it might open out into a wider discussion.

I'm super chill. I'm on extra strong morphine tablets for pain relief so I'm really drowsy.

We say 'my diamond shoes are too tight' all the time in my group of friends as a piss take of self and each other, so blurred lines innit.

Iamtheoneinten · 25/03/2024 21:30

WrenNatsworthy · 25/03/2024 21:27

AIBU is a place for debate, no? The OP triggered my thought about land ownership, and I remembered the article as I only read it recently.
I thought it might open out into a wider discussion.

I'm super chill. I'm on extra strong morphine tablets for pain relief so I'm really drowsy.

We say 'my diamond shoes are too tight' all the time in my group of friends as a piss take of self and each other, so blurred lines innit.

No it isn’t. It was a nasty little jibe at the OP. And now you’re in the minority you’re wildly backtracking. If you’re going to dish it out, at least own it.

WrenNatsworthy · 25/03/2024 21:32

Iamtheoneinten · 25/03/2024 21:30

No it isn’t. It was a nasty little jibe at the OP. And now you’re in the minority you’re wildly backtracking. If you’re going to dish it out, at least own it.

Er no... I don't care!
I don't need to 'win'. You do you and be all furious, I'll chill in my bed. 😘

oakleaffy · 25/03/2024 21:35

DuIcieDomum · 25/03/2024 16:24

What's wrong with cocoa???

Nowt wrong with Cocoa!

Dibilnik · 25/03/2024 21:41

They must have a very odd view of the countryside if they expect to find comfy deckchairs set up for them.

Aren't you supposed to have a shotgun ready for scenarios like this? Charge at them with GERRORFF MY LAAAAAANNNNDDDD!!! ?

Giveupnow · 25/03/2024 21:42

Another farmer here - people used to break into our orchards and pick apples off the trees. Or in our strawberry fields and bring their whole families to trample around and eat their fill. It’s literally stealing, in broad daylight. Types you wouldn’t expect like supposedly nice PTA mum or elderly gentleman…. Who would be outraged when you challenged them. People leave gates open and let our livestock loose. The general public are twats.

Jifmicroliquid · 25/03/2024 21:43

I feel your pain. We have a farm with a footpath and people are always wandering on our land and trespassing on our crop fields.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 25/03/2024 21:44

IntermittentFarting · 25/03/2024 16:34

Someone I know owns a large woodland with a small lake in it. There are good paths, and friend doesn’t mind people taking a walk there.
One day friend went to forest and there was a couple skinny dipping in the lake. On seeing my friend, the man gets out awkwardly, covers himself then starts aggressively shouting at my friend, “Don’t you know this is private property? There is a sign!”
“Um yes,” says friend, “it’s MY private property!”

He reckons shouty man was probably just trying to impress lady friend!

😂very funny!

Clarinet1 · 25/03/2024 21:47

peakygold · 25/03/2024 16:17

Cocoa? Are you living in an Enid Blyton novel!

I thought that in Enid Blyton it was always “Lashings of ginger beer”!

sanityisamyth · 25/03/2024 21:49

WrenNatsworthy · 25/03/2024 20:10

Only 8% of land in the UK is permitted for public use. I'm thinking that someone sat in your deckchair is a first world / diamond shoes are too tight problem.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/17/england-public-trespassing-reclaim-our-countryside?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Why not invite them in for bloody supper as well? Of course they're taking the piss. They're trespassing and the deckchairs are clearly not there for public use.

NonBinaryBlanket · 25/03/2024 21:53

I would have chased them off with a shotgun!

JudgeJ · 25/03/2024 21:53

peakygold · 25/03/2024 16:17

Cocoa? Are you living in an Enid Blyton novel!

Cocoa because it's too cold for lashings of ginger beer maybe? Many people drink cocoa believe it or not.

DoIdriveaVauxhallZafira · 25/03/2024 21:54

Vladandnikki · 25/03/2024 16:21

Oh this gives me a chance to share one of my favourite stories. I grew up on a farm, lived with my grandparents. One balmy summer evening my gran went for a walk through the silage fields, see how the grass was getting on and spotted a motorbike next to the gate. Thinking it rather strange went to get a closer look and on her way stumbled upon, quite literally, the occupants of the bike getting amorous in the long grass.

Good times

SparrowSally · 25/03/2024 21:57

I saw a couple of months ago loads of people had driven into a farmers field for an illegal rave. Rather than call the police on them, he blocked all but one exit and charged each car £20 to leave the next morning 😂