To be fed up with all the threads about high earners feeling poor

[trekking1]

It's always the same condescending "I've worked so hard and only have a 3 bedroom house in a great location and an expensive car", as if 1. that's not a lot 2. people who make 5 times less do not work as hard!

And the suprised pikachu face that having a degree did not magically get them a 500k job. That is not how capitalism works folks

"It's always the same condescending "I've worked so hard and only have a 3 bedroom house in a great location and an expensive car"

Its probably not always that people are ungrateful as such. It's that, 20 years ago, the same job would have bought you a 5 bedroom house in a great location - with smaller monthly mortgage payments - and an expensive car, and a lot else.

Don't spend your energy on it. Waste of time and energy.

It's as annoying as people starting threads to say I am fed up with people who earn more than me saying they are struggling.

Yes 100%

I have no time for it. "Boo hoo I don't have any money left because I have spent it all. People with only a fraction of my income don't know the pain. Their outgoings are far less because they can't buy much. They don't know what it is like having to pay a big mortgage for an expensive house or having to make big pension contributions for a high income in retirement, or what it is like having to afford expensive cars and holidays and their children don't have tutors or school fees or private health care or fancy school trips or many activities so they hardly have to pay for anything and they get £90 child benefit a month but I get no help (other than towards childcare and tax savings on my massive pension contributions)."

I think the frustration is more if you make lots of sacrifices to be a high earner and have little to show for it.

e.g Moving away from friends and family, long commute, delaying relationships and children to be career-focused.

And the race to the bottom continues…. What a sad sad country this has become.

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I grew up in the 1980s and while some people were relatively well off, a much bigger proportion of the population are miles better off today. In the early 2000s there was a massive rise in living standards and I suppose if that’s all that people have known I could understand them having this attitude. Personally we have good salaries and are very grateful for the standard of living we have as is far better than in the 80s, e.g. we might have 10 year old cars but my parents couldn’t even afford any car etc. Would say there is doesn’t seem to be much difference in lifestyles between families on 50-70k or 35k can afford these days due to how the tax/benefit/student loan system works

Don't answer or read them then, I get fed up of the people who then pile on those threads going on about "tone deaf" and getting arsey about them having problems when they have money - as if you can't find something difficult. Just don't engage with threads you don't like.

Tbh if you can't complain/be worried/ask for advice etc if there is someone else worse off than you then v few people in the UK could actually post.

I agree. I earn millions every year and do not brag about it on here.

Maybe try not to be bitter. It’s toxic. Just get on with your own life.

Oh MN is just awash with them, I just laugh now. Someone posted earlier about whether they should remortgage their £1.5m mortgage free house because they couldn’t afford private school fees from their £150K household income. Presumably they’re spending a lot on coke or something 🤣

Or maybe it demonstrates that people at all levels of income are pissed off and feel they’ve been sold lies all their lives - so we might actually get the momentum for some meaningful change…

I love the classic “it’s only £20…” answer to everything. Some people do not have a spare 5p, let alone £20!

It's the 'I work hard' for me. So do very many people on a low income. Stop it.

Completely agree, there was one this week where the OP moaned about ‘only’ being on a wage that is much higher than mine at an age that is younger than mine, moaning about high mortgage and car costs etc and that they’d worked hard but still weren’t on more. I’m single, I’m a teacher with a masters, so I have student loans, worked hard to get where I am and work hard at work etc but I live in a one bed flat, can’t really afford holidays etc on my single income etc so it does seem tone deaf when people who earn double the national average start threads moaning about it.

Most of those threads are more 'I'm a high earner. If I can't afford the basics - a holiday once a year, a house where both my kids get their own bedroom, a meal out in an ok café, then how hard must life be for the poor?'.

It's people gradually coming to terms with the wreckage of 13 years of Tory uselessness.

I'm fed up with the seemingly mandatory social requirement now to caveat any comment about positive personal circumstances with "... and I know how lucky I am/im very grateful for what I've got...".

Omg, this, a thousand times over. Brilliant.

I remember seeing a post on here about someone who earned around $190 000 but said they were still skint. 🙄

I have this discussion with DH all the time. We have just had a large quote for some fitted wardrobes. He is of the opinion that his day to day work shd be able to cover this expense without having to dip into savings. We r high earners but everyone is feeling the pinch and materials/labour are all up. I think therefore it's disingenuous to moan about being hard done by because we have to spend on things we 'want' when we can get by without if we chose to.

I'm not bitter, quite the opposite, I am very grateful for everything I have which is why I am arguing people who have more than me should be too!

You are absolutely not being unreasonable

😂😂😂😂😂😂 what a load of rubbish

firstly people on 100k can’t afford private school - unless scrimping for 1 child

Secondly what would happen if everyone bought cheap housing? What would poorer people buy?

Thirdly piss off higher earners at your own peril as they essentially pay for the benefit system