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To be fed up with all the threads about high earners feeling poor

386 replies

trekking1 · 23/03/2024 17:46

It's always the same condescending "I've worked so hard and only have a 3 bedroom house in a great location and an expensive car", as if 1. that's not a lot 2. people who make 5 times less do not work as hard!

And the suprised pikachu face that having a degree did not magically get them a 500k job. That is not how capitalism works folks

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owlsinthedaylight · 23/03/2024 18:33

You are so right OP. No one should be allowed to complain unless they are homeless and starving.

Oh … wait! 🤔

OhmygodDont · 23/03/2024 18:34

I find them amusing as in my diamond shoes are too tight.

Pondering how can they live with a take home of 5k a month the horrors. How does anyone raise a single child on less then that 😱😱

or a new Dp moved in and she’s outraged that his ordered to pay £800 a month child maintenance for one child:…so he earns a lot then. Their baby doesn’t cost £800!!! While he earns mega bucks and she’s on mat from a 80k job or whatever 😂

It’s like reverse poverty porn love it 😂

groohad · 23/03/2024 18:34

There's been a couple of spoof threads which have been funny. Otherwise I agree 100%. 'The poor' also work just as hard.

westisbest1982 · 23/03/2024 18:35

Seven replies until the first boring and predictable ‘race to the bottom’ comment - wow.

Anyway, yes they’re condescending. It’s crass, insensitive, and demonstrates a lack of emotional intelligence to post about it publicly - most people wouldn’t, because they know they’d likely offend some other folk.

K0OLA1D · 23/03/2024 18:36

GoodnightAdeline · 23/03/2024 18:31

😂😂😂😂😂😂 what a load of rubbish

firstly people on 100k can’t afford private school - unless scrimping for 1 child

Secondly what would happen if everyone bought cheap housing? What would poorer people buy?

Thirdly piss off higher earners at your own peril as they essentially pay for the benefit system

Oooo what they going to do? Stop paying taxes?

Desecratedcoconut · 23/03/2024 18:38

Bonus points if you are down to own-brand beans once you have paid the school fees, the staff and the livery charges.

Suchardchoccy · 23/03/2024 18:41

Desecratedcoconut · 23/03/2024 18:38

Bonus points if you are down to own-brand beans once you have paid the school fees, the staff and the livery charges.

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🤣🤣🤣

tracktrail · 23/03/2024 18:42

betterangels · 23/03/2024 18:22

It's the 'I work hard' for me. So do very many people on a low income. Stop it.

Yes, thus..and often very physically demanding jobs.

CharlieDickens · 23/03/2024 18:42

I agree sort of agree. A lot of the time I think people that earn good salaries just don't factor in extra costs associated with their lifestyle. It's not just a case of buying a new car and that's it. If you have a big car the road tax and insurance are more expensive. My ex had a lovely car but every time there was a problem, it would be insanely expensive to sort. It was the same with his house - he would complain about the cost of it all the time. It was big.

A lot of these people can't really afford the lifestyles they have once they have it. It's a case of bad budgeting decisions rather than "not being able to afford".

OhmygodDont · 23/03/2024 18:45

People need to remember during lock down it was a lot of the lowest earners who where deemed to be the ones essential to keeping the country moving and having to be front facing.

No getting to sit at home lounging around on furlough or doing zoom meetings in their sunny gardens.

Those higher up the pay scale where often able to be working from home or off and paid.

LittleLittleRex · 23/03/2024 18:48

How people "feel" has become so detached from objective reality. We used to actually be things (rich, poor, fat, male, short etc) now we "feel" them as if it isn't a real thing other people experience as life.

We don't realise our comparisons are people in our bubble + the lifestyle that algorithms are trying to sell you - so everyone will always feel a bit shit. Instead of reflecting on why we feel like this, we're told how valid our feelings are not told to get a grip.

InterIgnis · 23/03/2024 18:48

Is it that difficult not to read them then?

Mumsnet isn’t just for those with smaller incomes, and there is no one room that only said group are qualified to define. I find the complaining about it more annoying tbh, as it reads like “how dare you consider your own problems when you should be thinking about ME?”.

trekking1 · 23/03/2024 18:50

owlsinthedaylight · 23/03/2024 18:33

You are so right OP. No one should be allowed to complain unless they are homeless and starving.

Oh … wait! 🤔

There is a whole world of difference between homeless and making a lot of money but feeling poor because you spent all of it 😂

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westisbest1982 · 23/03/2024 18:51

InterIgnis · 23/03/2024 18:48

Is it that difficult not to read them then?

Mumsnet isn’t just for those with smaller incomes, and there is no one room that only said group are qualified to define. I find the complaining about it more annoying tbh, as it reads like “how dare you consider your own problems when you should be thinking about ME?”.

Strange take on it.

Beezknees · 23/03/2024 18:53

For me, a lot of it comes down to choice.

I earn £24k a year and don't feel poor because I live within my means. I live in a flat rather than a house, I could afford a house if I stretched myself but I don't want to stretch myself and have barely anything left at the end of the month.

Appreciate many people live in expensive areas and have no choice but some people definitely stretch themselves to afford a "better" house. Sometimes you have to accept less if you don't want to struggle.

Also a lot of the moaning is about the cost of nursery fees which is a large amount of money, but is also temporary.

KateMiskin · 23/03/2024 18:55

Personally I am far more fed up with people complaining that they haven't got enough inheritance or money from their parents.

trekking1 · 23/03/2024 18:55

LittleLittleRex · 23/03/2024 18:48

How people "feel" has become so detached from objective reality. We used to actually be things (rich, poor, fat, male, short etc) now we "feel" them as if it isn't a real thing other people experience as life.

We don't realise our comparisons are people in our bubble + the lifestyle that algorithms are trying to sell you - so everyone will always feel a bit shit. Instead of reflecting on why we feel like this, we're told how valid our feelings are not told to get a grip.

Well said. Like that one poster moaning about not being a holiday in years. but having a house and car on finance. She probably sees friends traveling on instagram and feels jealous thinking they have more, when actually they don't, they just made different choices.

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betterangels · 23/03/2024 18:58

KateMiskin · 23/03/2024 18:55

Personally I am far more fed up with people complaining that they haven't got enough inheritance or money from their parents.

This one blows my mind. It's such a different world.

TheFancyPoet · 23/03/2024 19:00

Earning much less, living much more comfortably, benefits not involved. It is called : using your brain. End of story

TheFancyPoet · 23/03/2024 19:02

LittleLittleRex · 23/03/2024 18:48

How people "feel" has become so detached from objective reality. We used to actually be things (rich, poor, fat, male, short etc) now we "feel" them as if it isn't a real thing other people experience as life.

We don't realise our comparisons are people in our bubble + the lifestyle that algorithms are trying to sell you - so everyone will always feel a bit shit. Instead of reflecting on why we feel like this, we're told how valid our feelings are not told to get a grip.

the answer right there. When all that matters is now that the fluctuating brain waves of emotional splurges people have are that taken for cemented reality????? - what else do you think is going to happen. Big pharma clapping their hands in delight

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 23/03/2024 19:03

It’s all relative.
I’ve been a high earner (well not mn high at £90k) but it drained my soul. I’m now on 40k plus - not long started and it’s a little boring, not quite as exciting as I’d thought but I have more time for DM and DD. I have so much more flexibility. Our mortgage is done, DH is a high earner (again not mn high, just over £100k) but we’re good, happy. I’d like more dogs, but hey ho.

We are older though 46 and 52. I wonder if the £200k plus earners are constantly upgrading things… so chasing that higher salary? I know people that earn waaay more than we do, who work 60 hour weeks- no thank you.

SeeYouInMyDreams · 23/03/2024 19:04

I don’t mind some of them. I know people who earn well but have childcare costs of more than £3k with 2 kids. Along with very normal housing costs, food, bills, student loan, you can be on a good wage and not have much or anything left. I’ve seen posters in that situation receiving nasty posts.

Mumsnet is for everyone and I don’t think it’s right that only people with lower incomes can post without getting sarcastic responses.

Obviously if people post saying they feel poor because they can’t afford more diamonds or a third luxury holiday, that’s different, but most of the time that’s not the case. It’s posters who earn well but their money is taken up on high childcare cost and average other costs. People assume that £5k take home goes further than it does but with childcare, it doesn’t add up if you do the math.

No bias from me, I don’t moan about money, don’t have young kids etc, I just think most people has their issues.

Noicant · 23/03/2024 19:09

People have different life experiences, I don’t see why they can’t talk about it. I’m quite interested in how different people live.

Fizzadora · 23/03/2024 19:10

I get really, really annoyed about people on exceptionally high salaries that are able to stuff loads more money into their pension so that they can get free childcare.
If you do that, you should be ashamed of yourself.

SeeYouInMyDreams · 23/03/2024 19:11

*have