To be fed up with all the threads about high earners feeling poor

[trekking1]

It's always the same condescending "I've worked so hard and only have a 3 bedroom house in a great location and an expensive car", as if 1. that's not a lot 2. people who make 5 times less do not work as hard!

And the suprised pikachu face that having a degree did not magically get them a 500k job. That is not how capitalism works folks

My heart bleeds

But that’s what their problem is- people post their problems on mn to discuss their worries with other people, why should someone with more money be insulted, called names, thanked sarcastically for the stealth post etc etc. They need help figuring out what’s worrying them, if that’s that they might need to move out of their house that happens to be a mansion then that’s what they need help with. The I earn only 13000 ama thread is so an example of this, people ready to laugh with the op until she said she had no mortgage and then people turned on her- how dare she have no mortgage, eff her. People get so angry that others have anything they don’t. It’s so sad (and I mean really sad not pathetic)

They do mean it that way because it always said in the context of deserving to have more money because you worked hard

I may have got the wrong end of the stick as I don’t actually understand the whole contextualised offers thing- my very limited understanding is it’s allowing for disadvantaged students who may be bright but due to schools, circs etc may not have been able to achieve?

I’m not even sure it was cambs, could have been somewhere else. As someone who agrees that disadvantage should be considered I was trying not to rise.

Agree- hardest work I’ve done is in min wage customer facing jobs (bar, shop etc)

But they do deserve to have more because they worked hard. It isn't their fault that someone else who also worked hard doesn't have as much money.

How do you think those in London not on 6 figure salaries cope?

it’s very rare a salary of any size will stretch to “all the things we’d like”. So most of us cut our cloth accordingly and live within our means.

i lived in London with a mortgage and 2dc. On two nhs salaries. I didn’t feel the need to moan because yes I had to budget and not have some things in order to afford other things, but doesn’t everyone?

If even high earners are feeling money is tight can we just not admit cost of living is too high?

OP this is a stupid post. Scroll on by as MN is for everyone - who are you to say what’s valid and ok? Many on a lower income get top up benefits, often making them equal or better off than someone earning a little bit more. The system is broken. I’m considered a high earner (in itself a joke) but after childcare and mortgage and bill costs, I don’t have anything left to save. I get no CB. I’m not rich and know how to budget but living costs so much. Wind your neck in.

My issues is that when mumsnetters take the time to give them advice on how to solve their problem, such as downsize, get a lodger, move out of an expensive are etc. there is usually a 1001 reason why they couldn't possibly do that. But they still want to moan!

If high earners feel money is tight they have options. Private school isn’t a basic living cost, nor are cleaners or massive SUV’s.

we have a problem if high earners can’t afford heating or food shopping, but let’s face it, they’re not.

We work hard for what we have

This is how our society is set up - work hard from young, get good grades and you'll have a well paid job and a comfortable life in a comfortable home.
People will feel angry and disappointed if it doesn't pan out like that when they feel they put the effort in.
Some jobs are harder than others. Care work seems really hard to me and pays badly. Being a surgeon is also really hard work and that requires consistent hard work and ability from a very young age. Not many people can do that so of course that should be paid a lot more.

It really depends where you live. I'm on £55k and live in rural Somerset. I've paid off my mortgage and I'm careful with money. I feel properly rich.
If I lived in London i'd be skint and living in a shed.

Here we go, another being on benefits works out better than having a high paid job comment. You are exactly the type of people I am talking about. Completely out of touch

My degrees really did get me high paying jobs.

BS and MS in computer science

My father was a lorry driver, so not exactly rolling in money in my childhood.

@trekking1 who is allowed to complain then?

So? A lot of people vent for the sake of venting, which has its own benefits.

Why do you need to agree or like it? No one is forcing you to engage.

I didn’t say being on benefits equals a high paid job amount. I’m saying that the squeezed middle is exactly that. People who earn too much for help but not enough to cover every single outgoing and lead a comfortable life. I know people who earn more working part time with govt top ups than the equivalent of full time. That’s mad. I have the right to moan, as does everyone else. Who made you judge and jury?

High earners struggle to afford the things they want but they have a choice.

Low earners struggle to afford the things they need.

Well sometimes. But earnings aren't the whole picture are they?

And both have the right to express their own issues with their individual circumstances.

@GoodnightAdeline

firstly people on 100k can’t afford private school - unless scrimping for 1 child

Because an average private school in most areas might cost 20K a year - and noone can POSSIBLY like on a mere 80K (or, for that matter, 60K after two children).

I honestly wonder what planet some people on this forum live on sometimes.

And this is a valid question. Why isn't it? You seriously think MN is your private forum? Just here for you? Hate to break it to you but there are people with more money than you. Lots of them. On MN. And like you, they sometimes want to ask for thoughts on something. These posts are aimed at people who are perhaps in a similar bracket to them. It's not all about you.

But there has to be a cut off point somewhere for benefits so people like that are always going to exist. That's not mad