To think that this is a prime example of the entitlement from some people in this country?

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Someone on a large FB group that I am on posted yesterday to say that they want to move abroad and gave examples of a couple of countries that they want to go to.

They then said that they live in council housing here so would need to be 'housed' over there and how do they go about getting housed?

Basically they wanted to move abroad and get given that country's equivalent of a council house/social housing on arrival.

AIBU to think this is the absolute height of entitlement?

It's not me thinking what I like. It's me correcting factual inaccuracies in your post. Stop spreading misinformation.

Just wish them luck and ask for a few poiters if they succeed!

If somebody is living in a Council House and the government pays their rent directly to the council, then it is free.

I appreciate that this doesn't apply to all Council House tenants, but getting the hump and claiming 'Council Houses aren't free' simply isn't true for a very large number of tenants.

Agreed.

Indeed, there is a difference, I don't suppose though, that there's an appetite for people using the services and industries they want and need that have traditionally low wages to pay their way by increased taxes and prices so that everyone working in them can afford not to live in social housing and be 'heavily subsidised'? Or just not use them because everyone working in them should just pop off and get a better paying job?

We're going to pay the proper cost for these services, be it private or state, and the people needed to work in them one way or the other really. If it's lower point of use price, that impacts on what they are paid and then they need a subsidy of some description to still be available to work in those services and industries and not living under a bridge somewhere.

What takes the absolute piss is that there's many an industry or service that does charge a higher price point at point of use, and doesn't pay enough for someone working in it to not need subsidy in some form, and pockets the difference.

I've not noticed that the people claiming to be the ones doing the subsidising being reluctant to use the services provided by the people working in them and earning low incomes that mean they need the subsidy. But they do seem to enjoy disapproving of the people in those low income jobs and telling them how entitled they are.

Some people support society by the subsidies they pay, others by the work they do, that's how it works. Only the financial contribution is an esteemed and lofty position and the work, well you're worth very little according to many.

Similarly those who have their private rent paid by housing benefit are also getting a "Free " house.

MIRAS anyone???!!!

On top of that, there's the Right to Buy, which effectively works out as "most of what you pay in rent will go to a discount on the property if you decide to buy"

The number of tenants still in true 'council' housing is very limited and the only ones eligible for a substantial discount depending on the area.

Most 'social housing' tenants rent from Housing Associations and the discounts under 'right to acquire' are far, far smaller if available at all.

That is actually embarrassing. YANBU.

It’s a very extreme example you’ve posted OP and I think you’re really silly if you think this is a common thought that some council tenants have.

You’re obviously annoyed by it though despite knowing deep down this is probably a one off event, so do you just have a gripe against council tenants in general and this is a good excuse to have a go?

What responses did they get on the FB post? I bet it went down well

No right to buy, where I live.

@Bumpitybumper You too young to remember MIRAS then

And yet, it's still not a subsidy.

So that means everyone in receipt of full housing benefit, either private rented or council/HA is getting a free house? I would argue that actually, the only person getting a free house is the landlord of the privately rented place.

MIRAS went years ago!

Wow, that's clueless. They're liable to come down to earth with a bump!

Despite the Conservative's best efforts, the social safety net in this country is still way better than in many other places.

How is social housing subsidised? I cant understand that.
Maybe they are confused and think that, because we house others from other countries that it is the same for other places? Though the circumstances for housing is very different. I.e. escaping war (though passing several safe countries 😇)

Yep I am too young to remember this as it looks like it was abolished 25 years ago and it was being effectively phased out before then. It certainly isn't relevant to anyone of my generation.

Yep and I despair that there are human beings who swallow this narrative without living it.

Speaking of covid, housing benefit got the biggest single boost in years (decades?) at that time due to the government realising that the 'deserving poor' would have nowhere near enough to cover their rent with the previous abysmally low rate. Not that it covered rents after but it was a very telling move.....

I even saw people on here saying that those having to claim benefits due to covid 'weren't the usual benefit claimants'. It actually highlighted people's/government's callousness rather than promote the blitz spirit.

Because the government funds a proportion of the costs associated with social housing, especially when the housing is built. This can be done directly through providing funding, giving land for development or through schemes like forcing housing developers to build some social housing for free as a condition of ascertaining planning permission on a site. Obviously the developer will have to recuperate these costs when selling the other houses on the development.

The subsidy is the reason why building more social housing is difficult.

I am 62 and too young to have qualified for MIRAS!

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Yes it is. Mortgages and other dearer loans were subsidised by cheap interest rates. Unless you don’t know what subsidised means?

Basically they wanted to move abroad and get given that country's equivalent of a council house/social housing on arrival.

AIBU to think this is the absolute height of entitlement?

Well this is goady as fuck considering plople that move to the UK are entitled to exactly what UK people are.