To think that this is a prime example of the entitlement from some people in this country?

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Someone on a large FB group that I am on posted yesterday to say that they want to move abroad and gave examples of a couple of countries that they want to go to.

They then said that they live in council housing here so would need to be 'housed' over there and how do they go about getting housed?

Basically they wanted to move abroad and get given that country's equivalent of a council house/social housing on arrival.

AIBU to think this is the absolute height of entitlement?

Have you heard of Brexit?

@Whalesong that's a bit patronising. My point was that it was allowed ( and no doubt still is within European countries).

@Savvysavermum have you ever visited a really poor country? We spent a month in SRi Lanka during the Tamil war when there was no tourism. We went through roadblocks almost daily (2 white people with a small child went through quickly) but we bought veg in a market late afternoon one Friday and the following Friday 108 were killed by a bus bomb. Dambulla, if you want to check it.

As we were leaving, DH said he'd like to help our regular tuktuk driver make a better life. He was about 24, with a wife and an unwell first child, and he earned about 65p a day after meeting the costs of the tuktuk he rented. So we bought him a tuktuk, outright and went to a lawyer to make certain the title was clear and the message was not delivered until we had left Sri Lanka. Now he could employ his younger brother on the rented tuktuk, and pay for his daughter's medical bills and help his mum sort out the house. Eleven years later, we learned that most of the money we had sent as Xmas gifts each year had paid school fees for his DD1, who had won a scholarship to senior school. It is not free in Sri Lanka. We distanced ourselves, deliberately, but that family is now probably considered middle class. Only in the UK is being working class ... add adjective

What makes you think this person has never paid their way? Is it because they live in a council house?

Not entitlement, but maybe ignorance. And the PP saying it shows someone is thick are just assholes, TBH.

If someone was on PIP for example, would they be entitled if they asked if they could claim it in the country they planned to move to?

Looking on a council house swapping website, you can get a 3 bedroom flat in Putney for £180 per week.

The cheapest private rental is £415 per week / £1800 per month.

I'm not sure i believe claims that council houses outside London are the same rental price as private accommodation.

Wow 🤯

They are just some of life’s ‘takers’ and expect to get everything handed to them, a lot of the time it’s generational

Have done. Not misunderstood. at all.

I'd take a 3 bed in Putney for that! and so would anyone else.

I agree with most - they just sound very thick!

Imagine we could all just pick a country and say “I’d like to get housed please”. There’d be an awful lot of people going for the same few countries.

The English speaking ones mainly....

J'irai en France.

Yes I have and I understand microcosms and macrocosms exist everywhere. Im not sure what point your actually trying to make?

What a wonderful thing your husband has done. But it’s the equivalent of Sunak’s cost of living payment just on a larger scale.

Nothing changed for millions of other Sri Lankans, you just threw enough financial privilege at one man which fortunately enabled him to change his and his families life.

There will definitely be a single parent out there in this country in desperate need of a vehicle which they can’t afford. If you generously funded this is could open up employment or education opportunities for them and change their families lives for generations. That same parent is probably called a scrounger by someone.

That's fair - it would've been more accurate for me to say "council house rents are heavily discounted relative to the rest of the rental market".

In an ideal world, the presence of council housing would have a dampening effect on rental market pricing. Unfortunately, because of its scarcity and the monstrous waiting lists, council houses are barely a rounding error (I have no sources for that, just a finger-in-the-air guess).

If only it were as easy as that eh!

Social housing should be kept for the most needy in society. The reality is that many low income couples and families can’t afford private rent but don’t qualify for SH. There is not nearly enough SH and this creates resentment.

I know two people who get their HA rent and private rent paid and work cash in hand. Whole system is flawed.

@Papyrophile your husband did a great thing😀

Really? They haven't done their homework, have they?

Clearly not, but expect others to do so for them.

Stupidity 🤣🤣

To be fair to everyone in council housing and PIP claimants etc - we have no way of knowing if the Facebook post cited actually happened. We do know that there's always plenty of people ready with pitchforks though.

It sounds like they are just really naive to me. You see this a lot in those "a place in the sun" type programmes on tv. There is always a couple who have very stressful high paying jobs who want to move somewhere sunny for a more relaxing life. The presenter asks what kind of job they will do and they say bar work. Then they are shocked at how much bar work is paid and that they will be living in a very basic house on that salary.

I disagree. Your conception of subsidy is limited. Council housing is not purely paid for by Council Tax remittances; there is no simple exchange of local resources.

The subsidisation results from the sacrifice made by holding the capital asset in the public realm rather than the private one. The public sector sacrifices the profit which the private sector would extract.

If councils were privatised overnight and became private landlords, rents would shoot up tomorrow because asset owners in a capitalist system demand a financial return.

If councils received the kind of money from renters that private corporations and individuals do in exchange for their property ownership, they would have much more generous budgets to invest elsewhere in their local communities. But they don't and they can't afford to.

The personal and social rewards reaped by the purchasing power of public money are evidently much more worthwhile than any private stash of cash.

But the payouts are for society's common good so are inevitably spread much more thinly, and don't just come in the form of an ultra high bank balance.

Decent housing is a fundamental human need whose provision is an ethical issue and should not be exclusively profit driven.

Oh dear ( haven't RTFT) but tell them not to come to Australia. We have a queue for public housing years long. Also it's run by the states not by the council. If you rocked up to any local council and said you were homeless, they would say " that's unfortunate" and maybe give you an address of a shelter. Completely different system. Councils here are "Roads , rubbish and rates" with the odd programme of something or other thrown in.
And you need to be a citizen or permanent resident to join the public housing queue.

No way people could move to US or Australia and expect Social Housing upon moving. For people to be accepted to migrate they would have to be of certain age and have a high demand skill's qualifications.

The only way they would get public housing immediately or soon enough would be to apply as asylum seeker. However, people coming from London wouldn't qualify as asylum seekers; usually, it would be for people coming from war torn countries or third world countries.

Probably someone who voted for Brexit without understanding what it meant.