AIBU - Weeing in lay-bys is anti social and fines should apply

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Item in the news- Dacorum Borough Council have stopped issuing fines for wild wees in lay-bys.
I know that this is on a technicality (anti littering law used and wild wees not classed as litter) but I think people weeing in lay-bys is appalling. It should be subject to fines. I can forgive toddlers/ young children but not adults. There are solutions for those with medical conditions that mean urgent wees are a symptom. And it’s always men. Women need urgent wees too (possibly more so, pregnancy etc) and we don’t pull up in lay-bys and squat in front of passing traffic. AIBU?

My dad has to. He has man pads too. But he can’t hold it.

I've done a "Paula Radcliffe" when caught with sudden urgency walking on a country road.
I've also urinated on Acropolis when a crazy Greek lady mop-chased me out of the toilets. Closed for cleaning, I assume...

I'll await the police now. And Interpol.

You don't see women weeing because to wee they have to expose themselves from the waist down! So they go out of sight. Whereas men only have to expose a tiny part of their anatomy from the front. Often, at a quick glance, they can appear to be doing nothing more than admiring the view. So I imagine they feel they can get away with not having to hide themselves away. I can't blame them, if I am honest.

Obviously I don't condone blatant exhibitionism but I have often been out walking with my dh or sons, brother, father, etc and realised a bit late that they were not looking at the view but weeing (well, doing both at the same time usually).

There's one next to a field we used to walk the dog, until the fence broke and dogs ran through to get to everything the truckers left 😱Frequently seeing adult men pissing in the bin the Highways eventually provided, shitting next to it, tossing food around it... It's flashing and not what anyone wants to see next to a public footpath or with kids in the car.

Have a weak bladder. Have done may a wild wee, and yes it’s cleaner than most public toilets and I am discreet. In a bush.

the times I’ve held it in on long drives, I’ve given myself a UTI so there.

It’s not always men. But men get blamed for everything on here 🤣

I’ve also been desperate, no services for ages. Pulled up, two doors open and squatted between (so nobody could see me). Job done!

And I’ve had 3 kids too, not sure how that’s relevant. I can usually hold my bladder very well but it was one of those things!

@lifebeginsaftercoffee indeed, me too. In the country where no one can see me and where my wee will not contribute to making a stinky public area. I’m not disgusted by wee per se, contrary to the suggestion of my misogynist “friend “ @5thCommandment .
I think @LostMySocks and @DonnaBanana get my drift more than the “what-if” situations posed. Yeah, I’ve been in multiple hours queues on motorways, yes, I know there will always be the odd case of circumstances needing desperate measures. But I think a lot of us know that the majority of the men that are seen visibly weeing in public amenities aren’t doing it because they have medical conditions. Don’t worry @cerebuswannabe, I won’t be ringing up the Jeremy Vine programme or sending my thoughts in to Question Time. . I thought AIBU on a Sunday morning was the right kind of time and place for such musings. Best get back to thinking about more pressing issues 😁

If it is the driver, then it should be points on their licence. If they really have a defence, they can argue it in court.

Actually that reminds me, I had to do it at Gatwick in the long stay car park once, huge traffic delays and I could barely move with pain by the time we got there, let alone get my suitcase on the bus and then travel to the airport and find the loo, had to use the car doors and hope no one saw me. Cameras all around too.

I have interstitial cystitis and believe me I have had to occasion wee in a lay by. The threat of pain and infection from holding it in is not worth it. Not something I can get upset about.
We have a massive problem with public loos in this country or lack of them

Littering is a far worse problem than a wee in a lay-by. Wee isn't my favourite, but a wild wee isn't as bad as weeing a bottle and throwing it out the window 🤢

It doesn’t bother me at all when I see men do this. If I see kids doing it I smile, no one wants to pee at the side of the road but needs must. Surely for a lay by to smell, it must be being used by hundreds of people a day??? The average lay-by will smell nicer than the public toilets in the services!

I went to ladies day at Ascot years ago, we were stuck in traffic for ages, five of my friends got off the coach, and weed by the side of the road, the coach was shielding them from being seen. I took a picture of the five women, all crouching down, all laughing their heads off with huge brightly coloured hats on.

N.B Before anyone starts…You can’t see anything unsavoury, no one was harmed, the picture wasn’t shared (it was before digital cameras or phones) no one has suffered any lasting damage.

Why are you so hung up on medical conditions.

Humans have to wee, to hold it in for long periods or to restrict liquids in order not to wee risks urine and kidney infections. Ive been there and these are not fun, neither are kidney stones.

I'm guessing it's men who throw bottles of wee out of windows but we're not allowed to say that

But you just have so clearly you are ‘allowed’.

Do you mean that you might be challenged on that and don’t see why you should be?

That are kept clean.
I have taken my children for a wee right outside a loo because the loos were unbelievably dirty - sick in basins, poo everywhere. It must be used by drunk teenagers at night.
(It was during a walk in the woods so not so bad, their wees were discreetly done by a tree).

Surely it's "always men" because of the basic physical set up. I've never mastered the art of an outdoor wee and am very envious of the body design that allows men to do so with ease.

I agree OP.
Wild weeing is fine if done discreetly.
Public weeing in laybys or motorway hard shoulders is totally unnecessary. If you're someone who's likely to be caught short then it's easy to carry a bottle or shewee and empty out the contents at the next service station toilet or more private spot or leave it in the car till you get home.
Whoever heard of needing to carry a bottle around the shops 😂
PS. I've only ever seen men weeing. Women just somehow must be able to be more private.

I was thinking the same. I have once in my 70 years been caught out, although I went into a wood area at the side of the motorway not the layby. Someone was threatening suicide on a motorway bridge and police stopped all traffic. We were stuck for hours.

Yes Ive had to use a variety of pots/cups, I throw away the wee and try to keep the pot (sometimes its been a lunch pot that Ive had to throw out the lunch, wee in it, throw the wee away and then carry the pot home)

Jesus, its awful and just like that other poster, getting myself into all sorts of positions to try to manage, it, well the wee just goes everywhere in the car.

So how exactly does the she wee work then? I thought it just allowed you to pee standing up more easily? If so, you’d still need to stand in the lay-by?

Lay-bys are for emergencies, nobody is hanging about having a picnic in them. Does it really matter if someone pees in the grass? I would definitely pee in a lay-by if I was desperate. I nearly had to do worse once due to bowel disease and a lack of public toilets!

Laybys get washed in the rain anyway. Nothing like the stink in public toilets.

Unless you have a medical condition, getting your cock out in public for a piss, is pretty gross

I have a bladder condition and sometimes I literally can't hold it.

Thanks for judging op

*cornet, sorry I meant yes, some are challenging it