To think that Labour have just shot themselves in the foot?

[Redrosetat]

https://twitter.com/KemiBadenoch/status/1768647056111861760?s=19&t=wqgtbWPG_X1xZDMhuF871A

‘Just now Labour MPs prevented debate on a new law to protect children and single sex spaces.

Instead they used parliamentary time to discuss ferret name choices.

@Keir_Starmer is terrified of debate on safeguarding & his MPs actively work to ignore the concerns of constituents’

People with views like this are the ones that Starmer is running scared of upsetting. It's pathetic.

Do you read up on this at all?

Not long ago Labour fully supported Self ID, children just had puberty blockers stopped and new school guidance

I know you and others say no one cares, but without women speaking up the above wouldn’t be happening.

None of it is fast but it sure won’t change if everyone does as some Labour supporters do which is nothing to see here, stop talking about it.

Yes I know there has been some movement in the Labour Party.

I meant what have these women achieved in terms of making the current government face up to its responsibilities in terms of safeguarding women?

@BIossomtoes
Haha nice try blaming multiple account holders

Ha at promoting Labour there whilst dismissing women speaking up.

Unfortunately a lot of it is waffle, and doesn’t stack up but at least they know it’s politically problematic for them now.

It does stop them actually informing women on anything, hence this thread.

Not long ago Labour fully supported Self ID

So did Theresa May 🤷‍♀️

The proposals to rewrite the 2004 Gender Recognition Act, to allow self-identification, were sent out for consultation way back in 2018, after senior ministers backed the move.

But Boris Johnson is believed to have got cold feet, as the issue become tangled up in the separate controversy over women-only bathrooms and other spaces.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trans-self-id-gender-recognition-act-lgbt-rights-b528630.html

So what has been achieved in terms of making the current government face up to its responsibilities in terms of safeguarding women?

Now on that we can agree. Although I think we may have different reasons for doing so.

Any thoughts on Labour being fcked off with Labour?

I’ve given a few examples of change below

All those who direct energy at telling women to stop or no one cares have contributed negatively not positively. And still do.

It’s as if safeguarding is zero concern to some. I assume it’s party loyalty driving the response which to me shows where Labour is on this.

Yes, Labour isn’t a hive mind. Next?

I'm more concerned about the current government and its failure to protect women and children.

Exactly. And I'd have to watch the whole debate in order to comment.

Would you have supported Self ID?

And by that I mean that I'm amazed that people who claim they care about women are still prepared to consider voting for them, or voting to enable them to continue their failures.

When you address my comments I'll consider responding to that. I'm not holding my breath.

I'm busy this afternoon anyway.

Ah yes a tricky one to answer I’m sure.

I have answered on charges made. It’s not invisible ink.

Very good points.

I don’t know who to vote for tbh except I am not voting Tory.

😂 at least this thread is entertaining watching the Labour diehards squirm.

I wonder who these phantom female Tory voters are because there are none on this thread as far as I can see..

I’m with you OP. You’re asking questions of Labour because you’re a Labour supporter — or have been till they discarded any pretence of defending women’s rights.

We know the Tories are shits.

We know the other parties haven’t a hope of coming to power.

So we need Labour to pull itself together and start defending the rights of the 50% they’re currently throwing under the bus.

Absolutely this and yet we are told that we are bigots and Tory voters by people who are 100% tribal in their approach to politics.

Plenty of them on other threads.

And no @EasternStandard you haven't said what this government has done to address its failures.

My point is pretty simple

All those Labour supporters, typically, citing a change in Self ID policy whilst telling women to stop speaking up or no one cares have contributed zero

In fact they try to hinder progress on safeguarding and women’s rights

This stuff doesn’t change by osmosis. It takes some putting effort in, sometimes to personal cost.

Well, I asked a genuine question about the % of people self id-ing. I wasn't trying to be a smart arse, so I wasn't being purposeful.

I guess that makes me pitiful in your eyes.

It seems to me that some posters in these threads insult anyone who doesn't completely conform to their way of thinking or who doesn't have the depth of knowledge that they have on the issues.