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To assume that no children's name on wedding invitation means they aren't invited?

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guptent · 14/03/2024 18:31

An old friend of mine is getting married soon. We don't know each other well anymore but used to be close (school). We meet up maybe once every year or couple of years and send "big life event" news in a group chat.

Me (and several others from our old friendship group) are all invited to her wedding in a a couple of months which is very nice. However, the invite has only mine and DHs name on but not DS' (who will be 19 months at the time)

She doesn't have her own children but from what I've known of her she always seemed to like children and being around them. She has a big family with lots of children etc. I know that child-free weddings are becoming more common but she really would never strike me as being a person who would have one. Obviously I don't know her as well as I once did but I would be genuinely amazed if there were no children there.

Im also surprised because several of our friendship group have young children (some babies in arms age) and it's not been mentioned at any point prior to this.

The problem is, going without DS makes things much more difficult. It's several hours drive away in quite a remote place. She's my friend primarily so if only one of us went it would be me, but I don't drive so getting there is going to be difficult if DH isn't there driving. I could get a train but it still wouldn't get me very close so I'd have to get quite a long taxi too which is going to be expensive.

Obviously we could both go and leave DS with someone. However, DS is very anxious and quite sensitive and gets upset without us there. We have built up to the point he can stay with his grandparents for a few hours alone while we go out but him staying overnight without us is likely going to be difficult.

Separation anxiety aside, he's not the easiest sleeper. Once asleep he always sleeps right through the night but getting him to sleep takes a long time (often upwards of an hour). We do not want to sleep train. While hour long bedtimes aren't ideal, he's otherwise good and so it's just one of those things at the moment. I just feel like asking my parents to spend potentially hours trying to get him to sleep is a bit unfair on them. But I wouldn't want him being left to cry either.

I do think we could sort something to make it work if needs be and I do want to go to be there with her and share her day. She is within her rights to have any kind of wedding she wants. I'm not complaining if that's what she has decided.

However DH thinks it's likely that she's made a mistake and expects that we will be bringing DS. He thinks perhaps she couldn't remember his name (she could have checked back on the group chat though) or something. He thinks I should ask and confirm. I don't what to as I feel I'll be putting her on the spot.

However, if we say nothing and do all this sorting to make it work and it turns out DS was always invited it will admittedly be a bit annoying and I will regret not mentioning it.

I just feel we have no choice because it's too rude to ask. In my opinion, wedding invitations are written out very purposefully.

OP posts:
SecondHandFurniture · 14/03/2024 19:28

He's not invited.

We had a wedding venue for 70 people, as that was all you were allowed for insurance/fire safety reasons, regardless of catering headcounts.

Normandy144 · 14/03/2024 19:33

It's highly unlikely they haven't made a mistake. We had only close family children at our wedding and I didn't invite any children of my friends. It would just have been too many.

Use it as an opportunity to trial some overnight stays for your child with the grandparents. If you don't try that and try to get him used to overnight stays then it just gets harder and harder and before you know it you won't be able to have a night away.

Itsacruelsummer · 14/03/2024 19:46

He's not invited. They might have invited close family kids like nieces, nephews or any godchildren.

Toddlers are bloody nightmares at weddings I'm always pleased when mine isn't invited tbh! Go on your own or with DH and use grandparents and enjoy yourself!

guptent · 14/03/2024 20:17

Thanks again everyone. Just to clarify a few things:

I would not be surprised if she does not remember DS' name. She's only met him once and we were on quite a big table not seated next to each other. We said hello and had a chat but we did not spent the whole night in conversation. His name is not a very common one either so that would add to it.

I do think she would think to check our big group chat though if she was unsure. And the more I think about it the more I think she is the type of person who would write her invites intentionally and not just leave him off and assume that we know. I think she would have either asked us or asked around to find out.

I probably overstated how sure DH was on his opinion. It wasn't that he was 100% positive that it was a mistake - just that he thought it was a big enough of a possibility that it was worthwhile asking. And since a few people have posted that they've been in a similar situation and the B&G had expected them to bring their kids then I don't think it's the most insane thing anyone's ever said. Definitely not sure it's worthy of us being deemed people who do not know how invitations work and who you'd regret inviting in the first place but alas.

DH accepts that the vast vast majority think it's evident that DS is not invited and is happy to accept that.

My confusion and comments about the wedding being child free or not were caused by a lack of understanding and an incorrect assumption that DS wouldn't be counted as a guest by the venue or catering. I see I was wrong about this. It is completely 100% understandable that they would invite some children and not others. Knowing this makes me even more sure DS is not invited. That's absolutely fine.

The plan currently is to explain to B&G that either just me or me and DH will be coming and ask for another week to RSVP that so we can check childcare.

I will check with grandparents what they are up for and have a think over the next couple of days.

If I go alone, we will probably go away together nearby so I can go to the wedding on the day. It's a nice area so we can perhaps enjoy having a few days away.

If DH and I go together then I am sure we can use the next couple of months to get DS settled into overnights. He's come on a lot lately and I'm perhaps babying him in assuming he won't manage it in a couple of months time. DH thinks he will be fine if we make a plan to build him up.

It's a nice idea about all the friends going together without partners but when something similar has been suggested/attempted before it didn't go well with one of the partners sort of ending up coming with us anyway and it was quite awkward. I won't go into it on here but the alternatives are simpler.

I appreciate everyone's responses.

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englishsparklingwine · 14/03/2024 20:25

I think you're taking a nice approach and being understanding. Some people get really upset if their child isn't invited and although I understand why, I often think they maybe don't realise the costs involved and it's nothing about the kids themselves. I got married last year - as much as I'd have loved to have everyone's kids there I just couldn't afford it. We had 15 kids who were close family (and had to pay £40 for each meal - half of the adult cost even if they were toddlers!!). By the time we would have added in the DC of our friends we wouldn't have been able to afford to have many of our guests.

TheSnowyOwl · 14/03/2024 20:27

guptent · 14/03/2024 20:17

Thanks again everyone. Just to clarify a few things:

I would not be surprised if she does not remember DS' name. She's only met him once and we were on quite a big table not seated next to each other. We said hello and had a chat but we did not spent the whole night in conversation. His name is not a very common one either so that would add to it.

I do think she would think to check our big group chat though if she was unsure. And the more I think about it the more I think she is the type of person who would write her invites intentionally and not just leave him off and assume that we know. I think she would have either asked us or asked around to find out.

I probably overstated how sure DH was on his opinion. It wasn't that he was 100% positive that it was a mistake - just that he thought it was a big enough of a possibility that it was worthwhile asking. And since a few people have posted that they've been in a similar situation and the B&G had expected them to bring their kids then I don't think it's the most insane thing anyone's ever said. Definitely not sure it's worthy of us being deemed people who do not know how invitations work and who you'd regret inviting in the first place but alas.

DH accepts that the vast vast majority think it's evident that DS is not invited and is happy to accept that.

My confusion and comments about the wedding being child free or not were caused by a lack of understanding and an incorrect assumption that DS wouldn't be counted as a guest by the venue or catering. I see I was wrong about this. It is completely 100% understandable that they would invite some children and not others. Knowing this makes me even more sure DS is not invited. That's absolutely fine.

The plan currently is to explain to B&G that either just me or me and DH will be coming and ask for another week to RSVP that so we can check childcare.

I will check with grandparents what they are up for and have a think over the next couple of days.

If I go alone, we will probably go away together nearby so I can go to the wedding on the day. It's a nice area so we can perhaps enjoy having a few days away.

If DH and I go together then I am sure we can use the next couple of months to get DS settled into overnights. He's come on a lot lately and I'm perhaps babying him in assuming he won't manage it in a couple of months time. DH thinks he will be fine if we make a plan to build him up.

It's a nice idea about all the friends going together without partners but when something similar has been suggested/attempted before it didn't go well with one of the partners sort of ending up coming with us anyway and it was quite awkward. I won't go into it on here but the alternatives are simpler.

I appreciate everyone's responses.

Surely you don’t need to say you will reply in a week’s time as you can just RSVP once you have sorted childcare. Otherwise it sounds like you are making things awkward by telling her she is making things difficult in not inviting your DS.

snoopyfanaccountant · 14/03/2024 20:30

Sorry, OP, but he isn't invited. If the bride couldn't remember his name, she would have checked with someone else in the friend group.
We were invited to a wedding a few years ago and the bride apologised that they couldn't invite our DDs who knew her very well (she was/had been their Sunday school teacher) but when they counted up how many children their close friends had it came to over 20 and numbers were limited so to invite them all would have been to exclude friends. The only children invited were immediate family.

WimpoleHat · 14/03/2024 20:34

Why dance around the question? Just ask!

Because you’re making it awkward for someone to say “no - not invited”. People who take the “no harm in asking” approach forget that, while there’s no harm to them, the person they’re asking may well feel under pressure to give an answer they don’t wish to.

Hopebridge · 14/03/2024 20:38

My husband went to the last wedding we were invited to without me as no children and we couldn't find a sitter. It was 5 hours away so not feasible. It costs a lot per head at some weddings. I didn't means as we only had children that were close family for the same reason. We also had limited capacity due to the location of our wedding.

If the children aren't named I would say they aren't invited.

guptent · 14/03/2024 20:38

@TheSnowyOwl I just assumed it was politer to get back to someone quite quickly after getting their invite or at least acknowledge you have received it and will let them know when X.

I definitely don't want to make her uncomfortable. I thought it would be ok as childcare is a standard thing all parents attending alone will need to sort and I thought it would show I'm enthusiastic to confirm that (at least) I am coming (if not DH too, dependant on childcare).

Although I'm ND and this thread is making me doubt a lot of social etiquette I thought I knew about Grin

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Girliefriendlikespuppies · 14/03/2024 20:38

Even if he was invited I'd leave a 19 month old with the grandparents 🙈 taking a toddler to a wedding will be stressful and not enjoyable for anyone.

Leave him with the grandparents who will cope for one night, go to the wedding and have a brilliant time.

Tengreenbottles2 · 14/03/2024 20:42

It is absolutely NOT rude to ask, if you're in any doubt. You could say something like:

"Hi Friend, thank you so much for your wedding invitation! Can I just confirm that the invite is just for me and Partner, not DC? I'm assuming so, but I just want to check so we can start looking for childcare and see if we'll be able to come. Lots of love xxx"

TWICE now, I have made an assumption that someone in my family was not invited, due to not being named on the invite, and it turned out my assumption was incorrect. The first time it was my partner whose name wasn't on the invite, and I thought it was odd as the B&G knew him and got on with him and our other friends' partners were invited, but I didn't want to be awkward and ask... then at the wedding itself, the bride and groom asked me where he was and I said I didn't think he was invited, and we were all mortified. The second time it was my children who weren't named on the invite, so we started thinking about childcare etc., but thankfully the B&G happened to bring it up long before the wedding and it turned out they were expecting us to bring them. Oh, and also, I've had a few friends whose "no children" policy turned out to be very flexible for people with childcare difficulties. So it's worth asking. As long as you don't take umbrage if they say no and they likewise don't get offended if you can't go, then there's no harm done.

shakeitoffsis · 14/03/2024 20:42

The kid isn't invited.

DinnaeFashYersel · 14/03/2024 20:43

Your child is not invited.

Babysitter and enjoy some time with your DH m. Go on your own or decline.

I'd enjoy some adult time.

KomodoOhno · 14/03/2024 20:47

Teacupsandrollups · 14/03/2024 18:37

Only the named persons are invited, just like any other invitation.

Agreed. I definitely would not ask because it will sound like you are fishing for an invitation for him.

ChampagneLassie · 14/03/2024 20:53

I’d just ask. I had this recently and the bride responded that only family children, but if it’s a problem for me let her know. So why not ask? Only you know all your personal circumstances

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 14/03/2024 22:15

Berlinlover · 14/03/2024 18:45

Of course your son isn’t invited, his name would be on the invitation if he was.

This!

Smidge001 · 14/03/2024 22:25

Your son is definitely not invited! Either go (without him), or don't go at all - but don't make her feel awkward by asking.

Starspangledrodeopony · 14/03/2024 22:32

Of course he’s not invited, don’t listen to your daft H. You’ll wind up being those people.

I know you don’t want sleep train, and you won’t have to if he’s already sleeping through, but you should work on your bedtime routine, because an hour-plus is madness.

It also sounds like you don’t want to go, so don’t.

Tozin · 14/03/2024 22:38

Can you take him with you, and have your mum/a friend babysit him in the hotel over night? So you can pop up to put him to sleep?

SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 14/03/2024 22:47

When my nephew got married, the charge per child was something daft like £40 each. Almost all of their friends had dc so they said no kids except those that were page boy and flower girl (1 of each). Friends came!
Can't you see if any others in your group are going solo and buddy up?

IsadoraQuill · 14/03/2024 22:50

I've been to two weddings where my kids weren't named on the invite (nor were the words used "and family") but they were actually invited. It was very confusing!

So it isn't always clear.

VenusClapTrap · 14/03/2024 22:54

I think it makes sense to work on leaving ds with your parents. In the long run it will be invaluable, and the sooner you do it, the easier it is.

BUT I’m in the camp that thinks it’s fine to ask - “Super excited about the wedding! Are we right in assuming it’s just us who are invited and not little Johnny? Just working on childcare arrangements and logistics!”

We turned up to a wedding without dc once after assuming they weren’t invited, and like a few others on this thread, were asked by the bride and groom where they were, so I don’t think it’s cut and dried.

nokidshere · 14/03/2024 22:55

Of course you should ask for clarification. It's daft not to. Most problems could be sorted out with proper communication.

Just send a quick email to check, it doesn't need to be anything intense, just a breezy note to check.

Copperoliverbear · 14/03/2024 23:00

Ask

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