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Neighbour using my drop kerb!

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mykerb · 12/03/2024 20:54

A new family have moved in next door - not attached we are a row of two semi's each and so on..
I have a driveway and a dropped kerb. So it goes my drive, pavement and then the dropped kerb.

My next door neighbours have a make shift drive (from previous tenants) but NO dropped kerb, it doesn't help that their neighbours have 4 cars and two permanently parked outside their garden so the new neighbours have nowhere to park except down the road because of it but again not my problem!

They have started driving over my drop kerb to park in the make shift drive, I have started parking on my dropped kerb to make a point of it and I did block them in, to which the woman politely asked if I could move my car so she could reverse out, I told her I don't appreciate her using the kerb to park in, to which she replied that she is going to be getting the curb outside hers dropped but it will take a while due to getting planning permission etc and it's hard to walk down the road with 3 kids and a newborn so it's just been more convenient, but she won't do it again if it bothers me.

Tbh she hasn't had a chance to park there again as I have started parking in front of my drive, on my dropped kerb but my sister has said I'm being petty for no reason and making her life harder and it's not a big deal! And it's really irked me because now I don't know if I'm being unreasonable or not!

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yourenottgebossoofme · 13/03/2024 18:07

Rosscameasdoody · 13/03/2024 17:56

The land it sits on belongs to the council. The facility to use it to access her driveway belongs to the OP. A service. Bought and paid for. If the neighbours want the same service they should buy and pay for it the same as OP has done.

No, she didn’t. If that were the case then when the op moved the new buyer would have to pay the council for the service too.

All the op has paid for is the council to change some of their property to a different shape.

She is then breaking the law and invalidating her insurance by blocking the dropped kerb.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/03/2024 18:07

puzzledout · 13/03/2024 17:54

@Rosscameasdoody no you can't drive over a kerb that hadn't been dropped! FACT!!

The pavement is not reinforced, having arranged two dropped kerbs it's just lowered sweetie!!!

You still don’t understand what I’m saying ‘sweetie’. You can’t legally drive over pavement that hasn’t been reinforced to take the weight of a car. The neighbours are doing exactly that because the OP has only paid for the section of pavement in front of her house to be reinforced. Not the section the neighbours are driving over to access theirs. If there is a pavement between the dropped kerb and the driveway it has to be reinforced to take the weight of a car. If the neighbours are driving on pavement meant for pedestrians, to get to their driveway, they are breaking the law. Our local authority is issuing fines to drivers parking on pavements for blocking pedestrian access and damaging pavements because they are not meant to take the weight of cars. Before you patronise other posters, try getting a grip on the issue discussed.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/03/2024 18:10

yourenottgebossoofme · 13/03/2024 18:07

No, she didn’t. If that were the case then when the op moved the new buyer would have to pay the council for the service too.

All the op has paid for is the council to change some of their property to a different shape.

She is then breaking the law and invalidating her insurance by blocking the dropped kerb.

No. The work carried out passes to the next owner. Access to property from the road is listed in property details when you sell. This thread is batshit.

theilltemperedclavecinist · 13/03/2024 18:13

You can’t legally drive over a pavement that hasn’t been reinforced to take the weight of the car.

This can't be correct. Outside London the default is that it is legal to park partly or wholly on a pavement, provided you don't cause an obstruction (an important proviso! but I do know areas with very wide pavements where drivers do park wholly on the pavement). This would hardly be possible without driving on the pavement.

What is forbidden, whether parking on the pavement or your own property, is to mount the pavement via an undropped kerb, because it damages it. But OP's neighbour didn't do that.

Saschka · 13/03/2024 18:13

When I was a child, my brother used to deliberately piss me off by looking out of my window in the car, and touching my half of the car seat.

But he was 6 and I was 9. You are apparently all adults. This is mental.

yourenottgebossoofme · 13/03/2024 18:17

Rosscameasdoody · 13/03/2024 18:10

No. The work carried out passes to the next owner. Access to property from the road is listed in property details when you sell. This thread is batshit.

Quite. And the new owners don’t pay a fee to the council for use of the dropped kerb, because it isn’t a service the council are providing!

It isn’t a service the op paid for as you previously stated - it’s a bit of highway that has been altered. That is all.

TheIceQween · 13/03/2024 18:21

29 pages on this topic now. This is wild. Unwatching

theilltemperedclavecinist · 13/03/2024 18:23

TheIceQween · 13/03/2024 18:21

29 pages on this topic now. This is wild. Unwatching

Quitter!

puzzledout · 13/03/2024 18:33

theilltemperedclavecinist · 13/03/2024 18:13

You can’t legally drive over a pavement that hasn’t been reinforced to take the weight of the car.

This can't be correct. Outside London the default is that it is legal to park partly or wholly on a pavement, provided you don't cause an obstruction (an important proviso! but I do know areas with very wide pavements where drivers do park wholly on the pavement). This would hardly be possible without driving on the pavement.

What is forbidden, whether parking on the pavement or your own property, is to mount the pavement via an undropped kerb, because it damages it. But OP's neighbour didn't do that.

Exactly @Rosscameasdoody

Oldtigernidster · 13/03/2024 18:37

The poor woman must be wondering what’s she’s moved in next to. I would go out of my way to help new neighbours settle in.

mytie · 13/03/2024 18:40

Just do the right thing, OP. Knock and say you were a little hasty and on reflection you don't mind, but would prefer she speeds up her application (as much as she can) and gets it done asap.

All those people spouting rules and regulations, while this woman who misses getting a space through working late, and is trying to get her small kids into their car without having to walk half way down the road - shame.

ThereIbledit · 13/03/2024 18:43

Nobody should be parking on dropped kerbs, no matter who paid for them. You make life even more shitty for people with disabilities , pushchairs and prams. Nor do you own a dropped kerb you paid for, on a public road.

puzzledout · 13/03/2024 18:43

mytie · 13/03/2024 18:40

Just do the right thing, OP. Knock and say you were a little hasty and on reflection you don't mind, but would prefer she speeds up her application (as much as she can) and gets it done asap.

All those people spouting rules and regulations, while this woman who misses getting a space through working late, and is trying to get her small kids into their car without having to walk half way down the road - shame.

I'm bloody sure the poor woman would drop the kerb herself if she could, anything to stop bat shit crazy OP whinging!!

RainbowNinja77 · 13/03/2024 18:49

You sound like a charmer

theilltemperedclavecinist · 13/03/2024 19:08

ThereIbledit · 13/03/2024 18:43

Nobody should be parking on dropped kerbs, no matter who paid for them. You make life even more shitty for people with disabilities , pushchairs and prams. Nor do you own a dropped kerb you paid for, on a public road.

Some councils ban householders from blocking their 'own' dropped kerbs, so as to maximise wheelchair crossing points. OP may have relevant paperwork from when she had the kerb dropped.

hellhavenofury35 · 13/03/2024 19:08

This will definitely go down as one of those threads. Nothing like a dropped curb/parking getting people going. I love that OP even did a drawing😂

DiscoBeat · 13/03/2024 19:13

ladygindiva · 13/03/2024 16:46

You are being extremely unreasonable and petty as fuck. Hope that helps.

😀

Debtfreegoals · 13/03/2024 19:21

Can you not just be a nice supportive neighbour and not sweat the small stuff. It’s really petty

suburburban · 13/03/2024 19:29

Doesn't your neighbours car touch your driveway as she backs in at an angle.

DagenhamDanny · 13/03/2024 19:33

Rosscameasdoody · 13/03/2024 17:35

Yes, why is it so difficult to understand ? If you’re resident in a road where there’s no dropped kerb to your own drive, then it becomes your responsibility to pay for the facility, which includes dropping the kerb and reinforcing the pavement directly in front of your driveway so that you can drive over it without damaging said pavement with the weight of the car.

OP’s neighbours are using a facility the OP has bought and paid for, and which applies to her own property only. Not the ground it sits on, but the actual facility of legally accessing her own driveway. The neighbours have not. So they are essentially taking advantage of a facility - a service, if you like to think of it that way, that OP has paid for. They are driving onto pavement that hasn’t been reinforced and damaging it. You might want to think about what would happen if everyone did this. You might also want to think about it the next time you or any of your loved ones trip and fall on a damaged pavement as a result of this type of entitled behaviour.

No one is saying that the neighbour isn’t in a difficult situation, but you can’t just ignore the law and do as you like.

None of that is relevant to my original comment.

JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 13/03/2024 19:35

She has a newborn….where is your compassion OP?

DreamTheMoors · 13/03/2024 19:38

mykerb · 13/03/2024 13:29

@suburburban I spoke to her today (20 minutes ago! as we was putting our bins out.. she said she spoke to the other neighbours who told her their kids can park where they want as there is no drop kerb!
She explained that permission has been granted, just waiting for council to give their list of approved contractors she has to choose from, so I'm sure it's a very short term fix. She said she felt very awkward herself thinking about it, and she has been parking down the road.
We had a mutual agreement that the other neighbours kids should be parking on their drop kerb just for ease of the road and parking available so I'm trying to mend this ...

“Hi new mum neighbor. First, I’d like to admit that I made a mistake. Second, you’re welcome to use my drive/dropped kerb until yours is sorted. Third and most important, I apologise.”

YOU MADE A MISTAKE
YOU NEED TO APOLOGISE
PROFUSELY

Thefaceofboe · 13/03/2024 19:41

Get a fucking grip honestly. I can’t imagine as an adult being this petty. God forbid anything major ever happens in your life

Daisyblue77 · 13/03/2024 19:49

You are being ridiculous. Shes not causing any obstruction to you. But you are deliberately blocking her in. How petty

Mumof2girls2121 · 13/03/2024 20:01

You are Really petty.