Tory donor openly states Dianne Abbot should be shot..

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Frank Hestor reportedly said: “It’s like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you’re just like… you just want to hate all black women because she’s there.
“And I don’t hate all black women at all, but I think she should be shot.
“(The executive) and Diane Abbott need to be shot.”
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/frank-hester-tory-donor-diane-abbott-comments-black-women-labour-b1144631.html

Abominable, disgusting. Aibu to be incecsed by this?
Money allows all sorts of behaviours apparently, particularly if you give a lot of it to a political party.

Lack of intelligence eh?

I am quite happy to say racism is an extraordinary evil and a real blight on our society. I long for its destruction.

I am quite happy to repeat that it is racist and wrong to say because I dislike one black women I am going to hate all black women.

What makes me hesitate to condemn this man is because, amongst other things, reading the quote above and not quite knowing the significance of the 'dots', I suspect that he almost gets it. He realises that he doesn't hate all black women and I assume the 'dots' are him realising that what he is saying is wrong. That it is racist to hate all black women because one black woman annoys you.
So if this makes sense, I think he is making progress and in a curious way, given that we are flawed beings, that is to be welcomed just as racism is to be hated.

Some will say that racists must always be condemned but then others will say we are all inherently racist, and that belief is backed by impressive research which is easily found by an appropriate internet search. It was that that started me musing on our feelings.

It also started me thinking about whether there are degrees of racism. Many would say you are either racist or not. But if we are all inherently racist, can I be more racist than you?

Finally you will be relieved, I think people often decry others for being racist because that allows them to concentrate on the other person's racism rather than confronting, combating and correcting their own. Not dissimilar from deflection.

I just don’t understand the vitriol levelled at DA. She is, by any standards, impressive. First female black MP, longest serving black MP, went to Cambridge at a time when it was almost inconceivable for women of colour.

Has she made serious mistakes? Of course. Were the remarks that led to losing the whip awful and indefensible? Of course.

But let’s not pretend most of the errors she’s made wouldn’t slide off her if she was white and male.

This

John McDonnell did not call for Esther McVey to be lynched.

Her constituents must be a load of dimwits too 🤔

The type of comments she has made and got away with in the past would have resulted in criminal investigations had they been reversed

Which comments were these, please could you link to them @Redundantrobin ?

Why are you giving him excuses?

He is racist in his workplace reported by ex-employees.

I’ve also met her and found her to be very pleasant.

Yes - probably.
Although have the remarks been verified - is there a recording?

I remember that Diane Abbott was accused of racism in 2012 - she said her remark/tweet had been taken out of context;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16423278

Oh please. What remarks of hers have crossed the line from inappropriate / offensive to illegal? And if that’s true, why aren't BoJo or 30p Lee Being investigated?

I don’t think you get to be a long-serving MP because people give you extra points for being female and black - otherwise we’d have a very different cabinet.

@Notpossibly this man is a major donor to our principle political party. He has poisonous views. 10 million pounds buys a lot of influence. If you're happy with that, it's very unfortunate.

What about him saying he'd like to se her shot?

What about the idea that he wanted a female executive shot ? The idea that if 'they could find ways to make her look unprofessional', ;they could get rid of her? Thsi doesn't sound like any meeting I have ever been in.

What about the notion that the female exec was eating food that others need? The useless eater analogy?

comments like she doesn't want to be treated by a blond haired blue eyed nurse, that sort of thing

You should publish this piece. There are many ‘only slightly’ racists/misogynists who could make much of it 🤦🏾‍♀️.

The fact that he has repeatedly tried to apologise to her (pestered her, if you will) and no one has actually said he didn't say it does rather answer that Clav.

Can you link to exactly what she said?

@Clavinova

Yes - probably.

Probably? Good grief.

Although have the remarks been verified - is there a recording?

Clutching at straws here as usual. If he hadn’t said it, why hasn’t he denied it?

The useless eater comments are not really being discussed but of course they are really chilling. The media is not highlighting the origin of such thinking. It is absolutely grim.

That's the most chilling bit if it.

That's a deliberate reference to the fucking Nazis for Christ sake

Quite. What Diane might have said or done is completely irrelevant.

Yes, using those words tells you a lot about a person's thought processes.

I have to admit Ive just had to google "useless eaters" - I'm lost for words which doesn't often happen.