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Tory donor openly states Dianne Abbot should be shot..

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VestibuleVirgin · 12/03/2024 07:15

Frank Hestor reportedly said: “It’s like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you’re just like… you just want to hate all black women because she’s there.
“And I don’t hate all black women at all, but I think she should be shot.
“(The executive) and Diane Abbott need to be shot.”
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/frank-hester-tory-donor-diane-abbott-comments-black-women-labour-b1144631.html

Abominable, disgusting. Aibu to be incecsed by this?
Money allows all sorts of behaviours apparently, particularly if you give a lot of it to a political party.

Tory donor Frank Hester apologises over 'reprehensible' comments about Diane Abbott

Frank Hester has admitted making ‘rude’ comments about the politician but said they had ‘nothing to do with her gender nor colour of skin’

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/frank-hester-tory-donor-diane-abbott-comments-black-women-labour-b1144631.html

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scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 22:16

Dymaxion · 12/03/2024 22:14

So it is the case that people's can't voice their opinion without getting piled on?

Opinion is fine, you believe that what he said is racist, but you also believe that the reason he said it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that she is a black woman. I mean that's some serious mental gymnastics, but as an opinion you are entitled to say it. Just as in your opinion she hates white people and shouldn't be allowed to be in politics, without providing any actual evidence to back this up, which of course you don't need to because its only your opinion.

She was dismissed for her antisemitism. What more do you want?

ilovesooty · 12/03/2024 22:17

I'd probably get banned

Given the posts you've had deleted I imagine you're treading on thin ice already.

Redundantrobin · 12/03/2024 22:19

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 22:13

I do not under any circumstances support racism.

This is what I mean. There are various posters on this thread throwing around accusations, making nasty assumptions etc. And yes it is a pile on when individual posters don't address the post they have taken issue with, but quote other posters in glee, making snide remarks.

You literally posted a lie tweet taken from a page that celebrates Steven Yaxley-Lennon.

There is nothing about that that says ‘I’m an ally of POC’.

Don't get all faux hurt about a ‘pile on’ just because people are calling out you and Clav’s ridiculous attempts to minimise the racism and misogyny levelled at DA.

IWFH · 12/03/2024 22:19

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 22:16

She was dismissed for her antisemitism. What more do you want?

I'd like a scummy racist Tory benefactor to be treated in the same way.

Oh but he's said he's sorry so that's OK...

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 22:20

IWFH · 12/03/2024 22:19

I'd like a scummy racist Tory benefactor to be treated in the same way.

Oh but he's said he's sorry so that's OK...

I think that should be the case too!

BIossomtoes · 12/03/2024 22:21

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 22:16

She was dismissed for her antisemitism. What more do you want?

Only her constituents can dismiss her. She’s a member of the Labour Party and votes along party lines. To all intents and purposes she’s a Labour MP.

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 22:23

Redundantrobin · 12/03/2024 22:19

You literally posted a lie tweet taken from a page that celebrates Steven Yaxley-Lennon.

There is nothing about that that says ‘I’m an ally of POC’.

Don't get all faux hurt about a ‘pile on’ just because people are calling out you and Clav’s ridiculous attempts to minimise the racism and misogyny levelled at DA.

I'm.not faux hurt. I'm calling out the fucking bullying of people who hold a different view to people like you. It's frankly disgusting.

I've explained that I didn't know that statement was fake at the time of posting. I have also stated how I came about it so don't make assumptions on what sort of person I am and whether I am an ally or not.

AdamRyan · 12/03/2024 22:23

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 22:16

She was dismissed for her antisemitism. What more do you want?

  1. It doesn't matter what she is or isn't, the fact is she's a black woman whose suffered racist language for that reason. Its not OK.
  1. She's subject of an investigation, she was not "dismissed", she just isn't a Labour MP while the investigation is ongoing.
  1. Compare and contrast Starmers response when people complained she said something antisemitic, to Sunaks reaction when people complained Anderson said something racist last month, or to how he's handled today. I know which leader has performed better in my opinion.
Redundantrobin · 12/03/2024 22:24

Clavinova · 12/03/2024 22:13

I don't think I have 'continually' brought up DA's own errors - and I haven't been unkind about her at all. It wasn't me who first referenced the hypocrisy of comments from John McDonnell - and that diversion was prolonged by die-hard Labour supporters who think Labour MPs can do no wrong.

You did continually derail the thread with whataboutery and nonsense.

You might not think it, but you did.

AdamRyan · 12/03/2024 22:24

BiscuitBrew

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 22:24

AdamRyan · 12/03/2024 22:23

  1. It doesn't matter what she is or isn't, the fact is she's a black woman whose suffered racist language for that reason. Its not OK.
  1. She's subject of an investigation, she was not "dismissed", she just isn't a Labour MP while the investigation is ongoing.
  1. Compare and contrast Starmers response when people complained she said something antisemitic, to Sunaks reaction when people complained Anderson said something racist last month, or to how he's handled today. I know which leader has performed better in my opinion.

You do you girl. I'd vote Sunak over Starmer any day of the week. waits for pile on

newnamethanks · 12/03/2024 22:24

Hurt feelings time. The defence of last resort.

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 22:25

Thought you were off to bed scorpio. Stop biting.

IClaudine · 12/03/2024 22:25

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 21:16

Firstly, I wasn't forced to apologise for sharing a meme I didn't know was fake at the time of posting, I chose to apologise.

Secondly, just from the replies I've had just now, they seem very hostile. Nobody can 'see through me', you can't even begin to know me. And some or the replies are very rich coming from someone who thinks my 5 Yr old daughter should be forced to share spaces with a person who has a penis. I don't know where uou far lefters get your thinking from.

Oh. My. God.

Where has anyone said that (sorry I am just catching up on this thread so am probably way behind, but really).

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 22:25

Did I say I was going to bed?

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 22:27

I'm bowing out. Night all.

I inferred so, yes.

Redundantrobin · 12/03/2024 22:28

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 22:23

I'm.not faux hurt. I'm calling out the fucking bullying of people who hold a different view to people like you. It's frankly disgusting.

I've explained that I didn't know that statement was fake at the time of posting. I have also stated how I came about it so don't make assumptions on what sort of person I am and whether I am an ally or not.

What’s that MN favourite?

something about believing people when they tell you who they are.

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 22:29

I was just building a fire to dance around it. Sorry if I misled anyone.

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 22:29

Anyway, do read Festus' statement just posted. He knows its unequivocally racist and is not afraid to say so.

I didn't vote for Festus as my MP recently but I admire his strength of character.

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 22:29

Redundantrobin · 12/03/2024 22:28

What’s that MN favourite?

something about believing people when they tell you who they are.

More assumptions.

BIossomtoes · 12/03/2024 22:30

I'm calling out the fucking bullying of people who hold a different view to people like you. It's frankly disgusting.

Nobody’s been bullied. Numerous posters have disagreed with you. Who was it who said if you can’t stand the heat stay out of the kitchen? Truman, I think.

AdamRyan · 12/03/2024 22:30

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 22:24

You do you girl. I'd vote Sunak over Starmer any day of the week. waits for pile on

Well, that and the tweets you post may be why people are questioning how seriously you take racism. But you do you girl 😂

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 22:31

BIossomtoes · 12/03/2024 22:30

I'm calling out the fucking bullying of people who hold a different view to people like you. It's frankly disgusting.

Nobody’s been bullied. Numerous posters have disagreed with you. Who was it who said if you can’t stand the heat stay out of the kitchen? Truman, I think.

Wait, what? I thought that was a Bucks Fizz profundity!

Dymaxion · 12/03/2024 22:31

She was dismissed for her antisemitism. What more do you want?

She had the whip removed due to a letter she wrote to the Observer, where she suggested that the travelling community, Irish people and Jewish people didn't suffer racism as experienced by black people. She apologised unreservedly, acknowledged the hurt these comments had caused and agreed that those groups do indeed suffer from racism.

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