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Tory donor openly states Dianne Abbot should be shot..

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VestibuleVirgin · 12/03/2024 07:15

Frank Hestor reportedly said: “It’s like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you’re just like… you just want to hate all black women because she’s there.
“And I don’t hate all black women at all, but I think she should be shot.
“(The executive) and Diane Abbott need to be shot.”
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/frank-hester-tory-donor-diane-abbott-comments-black-women-labour-b1144631.html

Abominable, disgusting. Aibu to be incecsed by this?
Money allows all sorts of behaviours apparently, particularly if you give a lot of it to a political party.

Tory donor Frank Hester apologises over 'reprehensible' comments about Diane Abbott

Frank Hester has admitted making ‘rude’ comments about the politician but said they had ‘nothing to do with her gender nor colour of skin’

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/frank-hester-tory-donor-diane-abbott-comments-black-women-labour-b1144631.html

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LadyKenya · 12/03/2024 18:44

IClaudine · 12/03/2024 18:37

Clav is out-claving herself tonight!

They have some brass neck, that is for sure!

whatsitcalledwhen · 12/03/2024 18:45

@Clavinova

I'm likely to vote for labour in the next election.

If a labour donor said:

"It's like trying not to be racist but you see Priti Patel on the TV, and you're just like I hate, you just want to hate all Asian women because she's there, and I don't hate all Asian women at all, but I think she should be shot. (The executive) and Priti Patel need to be shot."

Then I would unequivocally condemn those comments and campaign for Labour to return the dirty money donated by the racist who said those things as a show of morals. And for KS to call the donor racist.

I find it staggering that you don't outright condemn the comments made and instead use whatabourery.

And I don't for a second believe that if the above happened with a labour donor, you wouldn't be calling labour morally bankrupt if they kept the money and KS refused to call the donor racist.

OneTC · 12/03/2024 18:46

We've got a bloke making not even subtle references to one of the core underpinnings of Nazi ideology and people are finding time and feeling the need itt to criticise other people?

Incredible

Dymaxion · 12/03/2024 18:53

If it adds anything to the story, he is well known in IT circles, and is like this to everyone. He's not a popular man. You should see the comments on LinkedIn.

@KnittedCardi Reaping what he sows, you mean ? Somebody dobbed him in, he didn't suddenly develop a profound sense of conscience !

ilovesooty · 12/03/2024 18:56

Clavinova · 12/03/2024 18:22

L1ttledrummergirl
I think I must be thick. Are you victim blaming as an excuse for blatant racism

Not at all. I don't know what you mean.

Oh come on...

TwigletsAndRadishes · 12/03/2024 18:57

Redundantrobin · 12/03/2024 17:56

How are they indirectly related? Are you saying that Diane Abbott deserves to be spoken about in this way because she herself has held beliefs / shared words that don’t sit well with your personal politics?

Are there people it’s acceptable to be racist towards?

No that's not what I am saying. People keep challenging me to explain, or directing questions at me and then I get criticised for apparently continuing to derail the thread further by repsonding to them.

I can either respond, or not derail the thread. I can't do both. So as I do actually think that most of you are perfectly capable of understanding the point I am making, even if you like to pretend you do not, I am going to leave it right there.

DuncinToffee · 12/03/2024 18:59

Sunak has broken his silence

Breaking:

Rishi Sunak believes that Tory donor Frank Hester's comments about Diane Abbott were 'racist and wrong'

PM spox: 'The comments allegedly made by Frank Hester were racist and wrong. He has now rightly apologised for the offence caused and where remorse is shown it should be accepted.

'The Prime Minister is clear there is no place for racism in public life and as the first British-Asian Prime Minister leading one of the most ethnically diverse Cabinets in our history, the UK is living proof of that fact'

https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1767620548375253026?s=20

Notonthestairs · 12/03/2024 19:00

Not sure Heater actually apologised for either his racism or misogyny.

whatsitcalledwhen · 12/03/2024 19:00

Glad to see he has called the remarks racist. Took too long but better late than never.

Notonthestairs · 12/03/2024 19:00

Hester not Heater!

DuncinToffee · 12/03/2024 19:01

Notonthestairs · 12/03/2024 19:00

Not sure Heater actually apologised for either his racism or misogyny.

I think he apologised for 'being rude'

OneTC · 12/03/2024 19:03

DuncinToffee · 12/03/2024 18:59

Sunak has broken his silence

Breaking:

Rishi Sunak believes that Tory donor Frank Hester's comments about Diane Abbott were 'racist and wrong'

PM spox: 'The comments allegedly made by Frank Hester were racist and wrong. He has now rightly apologised for the offence caused and where remorse is shown it should be accepted.

'The Prime Minister is clear there is no place for racism in public life and as the first British-Asian Prime Minister leading one of the most ethnically diverse Cabinets in our history, the UK is living proof of that fact'

https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1767620548375253026?s=20

Now they should return the money and rishi should take the train like everyone else. No more free helicopter trips from his mate

BIossomtoes · 12/03/2024 19:05

Difficult decision about the donation in an election year though.

Only if you haven’t got a scintilla of integrity or moral decency.

Simonjt · 12/03/2024 19:11

Clavinova · 12/03/2024 18:38

Simonjt
Why would I ever prefer racism if it was in a different newspaper?

I'm not sure the Guardian article is racist (that's not what I meant) - it's probably misogynistic though. What do you think?

It is racist. Why do you think I would ever prefer sexism if its in a different newspaper?

PerkingFaintly · 12/03/2024 19:13

Some people make flippant comments without thinking of this context.
This is why there needs to be space for forgiveness where there is contrition

Mm.

There's a limited extent to which I agree with Badenoch's tweet here.

If someone is young or otherwise lacking knowledge and is just parroting some phrase they've heard without real understanding, then I'm usually happy to cut them some slack. Explain the issue to them: if they're mortified, fair enough, that's the time for forgiveness.

Ditto when people have had a tongue-tangle when speaking live or writing a quick reactive tweet. I'm forever having to edit my own comments for not actually saying what I was attempting to say, by the time I've crashed a couple of clauses into each other, so I can hardly criticise.

But this is not an example of that.

Hester's comments weren't borderline - including the "useless eaters"😱 one – and this guy is old enough and senior enough to know what he was saying, and appears to have said it quite coherently.

It's no surprise at all to learn he has form.

Real contrition is one thing. A senior exec's "I'm sorry you're making a fuss about me being caught" is quite another.

As an aside, Badenoch's tweet is timed at 4:19 pm, so by the time she made her statement she would have known pretty much the same background info on Hester that we do.

Manyandyoucanwalkover · 12/03/2024 19:14

Utterly disgusting.

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 19:16

Breaking: PM spokesperson says words were racist and wrong.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 12/03/2024 19:16

Do we know why this has suddenly surfaced after nearly five years? Who has been sitting on the recording/transcript or whatever it was, for all that time then suddenly decided to go public with it now?

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 19:17

Oh,I'm late as usual ....

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 19:18

TwigletsAndRadishes · 12/03/2024 19:16

Do we know why this has suddenly surfaced after nearly five years? Who has been sitting on the recording/transcript or whatever it was, for all that time then suddenly decided to go public with it now?

It is often the way. Does it much matter?

bombastix · 12/03/2024 19:20

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 19:16

Breaking: PM spokesperson says words were racist and wrong.

That has taken all day.

Whenwillitgetwarm · 12/03/2024 19:21

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 18:40

I posted a link to Adam Bienkov's Twitter earlier that has Glassdorr comments- eye opening.

Why is this man being given millions of tax payers money if he’s so well known as being awful? Surely companies should be properly vetted before being given these contracts?

BIossomtoes · 12/03/2024 19:21

TwigletsAndRadishes · 12/03/2024 19:16

Do we know why this has suddenly surfaced after nearly five years? Who has been sitting on the recording/transcript or whatever it was, for all that time then suddenly decided to go public with it now?

I expect the latest £5 million donation made this month might have prompted it.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 12/03/2024 19:21

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 19:18

It is often the way. Does it much matter?

Well I think so, yes. It's clearly a disgusting thing to say. I just wonder why the person who has had access to the quotes all this time feels duty bound to make them public now, but didn't feel enough outrage in any of the preceding years. It's just odd.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 12/03/2024 19:23

BIossomtoes · 12/03/2024 19:21

I expect the latest £5 million donation made this month might have prompted it.

Ok thanks, so he wasn't a donor at the time the comments were made, presumably.

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