To wonder how much longer it will be before all teachers quit?

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Been called a bitch and screamed at today. Kids are making no progress because 90% of the leason is dedicated to bad behaviour.
My detentions have been taken off the system to make behaviour look better.
Why would anyone do this job?

I quite fancy a badge with that on

Good luck!!! Hope all is going well

Absolute rubbish.

I know plenty of ‘really gifted’ teachers who have left because they can’t bear how education has become. I know a fair few who were managed out on particularly nasty capability procedures simply because new heads didn’t like them (and/because they were expensive).

In any case teachers don't all have to be 'gifted'. It's a job and they should do it well like any other job but if you only want 'gifted' teachers there will be an even bigger shortage.

The dross, less gifted and immoral will clean itself out. The really gifted always stay until pension age.

What on earth are you on about? None of that is remotely true. Plenty of ok teachers carry on for decades. Quite a lot of brilliant teachers quit for the sake of their own sanity. Not sure what you mean about 'immoral' ones.

It’s sadly a reflection of society in general.
Nowadays it’s seen as weak to put others first or consider others. It’s all about putting your own needs above others and getting what you can even at the expense of others feelings. Looking after other people is seen as valueless.
I see it in the children and parents attitude towards others.

The carrying on for decades thing is an outdated view of what is happening. You used to get the old lags beached in the staffroom moaning but not any more. Hardly anyone stays long enough.

In many secondary schools the average age is getting younger and younger in the staffroom. At my husband's last school not only were there very few teachers (other than senior management) in their 50s, there were also hardly any in their 40s and not than many in their 30s. Most of the staff were in their 20s. Most heads of department and heads of year were in their 20s as a result (this does not make for good decision making perhaps?) How many will still be teaching in a decades time is anyone's guess.

@AllProperTeaIsTheft - just not true. In many state schools, and particularly academy chains older teachers are managed out because they are expensive and also have many years experience so are more likely to challenge faddy ideas and nonsensical edicts from on high. Good schools retain older staff as well as welcoming younger staff so there is proper balance. I’m 30 years in but at a school that values my, experience, talent and input. I’m still very engaged and energised by teaching but I’m lucky.

Loads of older teachers in my school. However, I'm well aware that older, expensive teachers are often managed out and replaced by newly-qualifiee cannon fodder. I was simply pointing out that @TheFancyPoet 's odd post about the relative staying power of the gifted, the les gifted, the immoral and the dross was nonsense.