To wonder how much longer it will be before all teachers quit?

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Been called a bitch and screamed at today. Kids are making no progress because 90% of the leason is dedicated to bad behaviour.
My detentions have been taken off the system to make behaviour look better.
Why would anyone do this job?

I work in a secondary school and the behaviour is shocking. I have been called a stupid slit for asking a student to sit on a chair rather than spin on a table in front of another student. I have had to listen to boys discussing what they would do to girls in the most vulgar terms and when asked to stop they just got worse. Called SLT to help and I was told it was just. It’s being boys. I know members of staff are threatened and sworn at everyday. Secondary school is tough. There are constant teacher shortages and staff off with mental illnesses. Schools are not able to discipline properly anymore and behaviour is escalating.

Sheer utter bollocks, ye absolute plank, go and do it if it's so easy! You only want to moan at teachers because you want somewhere to dump your kids as free childcare when you go to work. Think next time an adult and professional calls you about your kids' behaviour, they wouldn't be taking time out of their lives if they were lying to you, back the staff not your kids.

Go boil your head

Its because these parents need teachers so they can dump them somewhere when they skedaddle off to work,free babysitting, tough, your fault my kid plays up.

Should just exclude the lot and yes we would have a lot of kids without the education they might have had after the teachers had burnt out trying to teach them, but ultimately it's the parents' responsibility to educate them. This happens in other countries, not pander and mop up hurt feelings

Dancefloor Acrobatics is thicker than osmium

And then your teaching has to be "reactionary" you have to teach them, assess them and give them tasks based on that assessment at that moment in time, all at once, that's if you haven't had someone leave halfway through (AWOL) and has no clue what to do when they wander back in, or similarly, really late and need to be caught up in 30 seconds something you've just spent 15 minutes explaining.

With what money, exactly?

Why would anyone do that job? For £40k+ a year, 14 weeks holiday, every Bank Holiday, weekend and Christmas off guaranteed. Occasional days, INSET days and half days, not to mention the ridiculous 'snow days'. Working day starts at 0830hrs and finishes easily by 1530hrs. If you cannot control a class, there is probably a training course for that.

And yet 40,000 teachers quit teaching last year. And they don't go back (otherwise we wouldn't have a staffing crisis), so clearly they are all finding that other jobs are better.

Lolz at the finishing at 3.30.

And the occasional days!

Last seen in 1985.

Have never had a half day either! Still, looking forward to leaving at 3.30 tomorrow…

We've had the call so I've just got home for the day. 7:30am - 10pm and again tomorrow!

DS is looking at graduate jobs. He is a (v poorly paid) TA at the moment. He could start teaching on about 30k after a PGCE etc on v low pay/ a loan. He could do a social work graduate scheme and be paid 27k while training and start after a year on 32k , or probation officer - 15 months scheme at 26k and then starting salary of 35k with opportunity for hybrid working.

All tough jobs - but teaching is starting to look less attractive...

Longer holidays is literally the only perk he can name but both of the other roles offer flexi working and hybrid working. And actually the holidays in the civil service are pretty decent. And the pension schemes are good.

His time in schools as a TA has made him realise how very exhausting working in a school is.

Branwen Jeffreys of the BBC seems permanently surprised

https://twitter.com/branwenjeffreys/status/1767307900463030501

They won't quit. Teachers have a very robust social power and determine many families lives, this is why if they are particularly good and moral and wise and patient , we all need them

The dross, less gifted and immoral will clean itself out. The really gifted always stay until pension age.

Immoral how??

I know lots of gifted teachers who have left in the last 10 years. Maybe they were immoral : I didn't check.

This is just bad parenting. I would not have dared to call my teacher a bitch because of the trouble I would have been in at home.

In trouble in school in trouble at home . It should be universally understood.

I'm afraid management likes to get rid of older expensive teachers no matter how good they are (especially if they are more experienced than the SLT) and replace them with cheaper, more malleable newly qualified teachers.

She’s asking people if they are having trouble recruiting? Really??

Seems so!

😂’immoral and dross’

You have no idea what you’re talking about.