To be appalled at these parents trying to force a girls football team to let their son join?

[AngeloMysterioso]

The FA is threatening to suspend a girls’ football league after a boy’s parents complained because they wouldn’t let him join.

There’s nothing in the report about the boy being trans, or identifying as a girl- he just doesn’t want to play with boys and doesn’t have the ability level.

I’m just gobsmacked at the entitlement of these parents, which they are also teaching their son - that they expect a girl to have to lose her place on a team just because he isn’t good enough to play with the boys.

DM article- so far not being reported by any other news outlets but will keep checking.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13149771/west-riding-girls-football-league-boy-footbal-association.html

Well we have all met parents like this unfortunately. A good way to ruin an otherwise decent thing for girls. I hope the actual parents of the current team hang together and say no.

I don’t know the details but if it’s as is being reported here I hope all the girls in the team resign their spots and start their own team. Madness. What is going through the parents’ heads?

Surely he could join a mixed group instead? Think it's bonkers and actually sexist towards the girls!

What's the difference between a boy with a trans identity on a girls team and one without a trans identity? In other words, why should this by lose out if other boys are being facilitated to spoil things for girls?

To make it go away I would say yes to him joining and keep him on the bench every single match. And just say to his parents he isn't good enough.

Yes it's in the rules that at under 16 they can have mixed teams blah blah blah but it's just another way of a mediocre male taking over female sports. It sickens me.

How embarrassing for the boy as well, not good enough for the boys teams so wants to be the only boy on the girls team. The shit he would get at school would be horrendous, how any parent can do that baffles me.

They need to stand firm and not let this boy in the girls team. If they don't it's sets a precedent.

We need to protect females in sports, not just physically but also mentally.

Well, quite. This isn’t a trans thread and I don’t want it to become one, but there’s no denying the link. Making allowances for boys who identify as girls (who in my opinion shouldn’t be allowed either) opens the door for piss-takers like this.

I posted this on the other thread about it

what gets my goat is that the parents have so many options to them - from moving to a different team, registering as volunteers and becoming coaches themselves to playing for a mixed sex team.

the entitlement is insane.

Oh dear.

I think we maybe need to call them xx teams and xy teams. Then it becomes clear that the 'male' and 'female' denote the sex of the people eligible to play?

I think that this is interesting actually, albeit awful for the girls who are having to stand their ground.

If the FA (or other governing body) say that a trans identifying boy (a trans girl) is able to play in the girls football league then the reason that this boy is being declined is because of the pc of Sex, if he had the pc of gender reassignment being identified as a girl he would be allowed to play. It doesn't really make any sense.

The whole thing is a mess. Girls sport should be protected for safety and dignity. There must be lower leagues that this boy and any boy who identifies as trans could play in without disrupting girls leagues.

My dd had to stop playing football because there were two teams in her league with boys in. Some (most) parents thought this was so, so wonderful. 🙄

This is to do with the FA rules that say under 16s can play mixed teams even in girls leagues. It isn't a trans debate in that sense (although of course there is overlap).

This will cause more girls to drop out of sporting activity when so few girls/young women take part as it is, and all sporting bodies say they want more to take part, why would they when things like this happen.

This is to do with the FA rules that say under 16s can play mixed teams even in girls leagues. It isn't a trans debate in that sense (although of course there is overlap).

That is so bizarre, my daughter is a cricketer and girls leagues are not mixed teams (although for the moment the ECB would allow a trans identifying boy to play in the girls leagues), the mixed teams are the non -girls league.

I think I would be onto the FA about that. If the rules allow it then the boy is not at fault. It makes a mockery of the situation if the girls league is actually mixed.

Playing devils advocate here, how is this different from a girl being in a predominantly boys team? Genuine question, not being goady - I am massively supportive of girls sport (have a daughter myself). But it seems logical that if you want to have girls only team, then you should be able to have boys only teams too.

That is unlikely to happen after puberty though. So age 12+ due to the difference in size and strength, lung capacity etc....... and the manager of the team will always play the best team they have. It never is a problem for male sports and yet males want to get in on female sports as they are not good enough to play with the males.

Basically there are 100s more boys teams than girls teams. They let girls join boys teams because in some areas they just isn't a girls team for them to join. Because still, unfortunately even despite the Lionesses successes, football is seen predominantly as a male sport. They are enough teams for boys and well as mixed teams though that there just shouldn't be a reason for a boy to join a girls team. It is so sad to be honest that one boy could ruin this for so many girls - my experience is that girls get so much out of a single sex sports team that goes above and beyond the physical activity.

He’d be taking up a place that a girl would otherwise have. People need to think about that girl and her missed opportunities instead of this boy and his feelings.
Also, the Lionesses do well without having to have failed men’s team players!

Well my 14 daughter plays both boys and mixed cricket (only girl on the boys team). She is as good as any of the boys on that team but is not physically stronger than them but she is technically better. She is the only one of her mixed team to represent the county which she does in the girls pathway.

If you put a 14 year old boy into a girls team of 14 year old girls then he is likely to hit the ball so hard or bowl so fast that the girls could be physically injured. A girl playing in a boys team takes that risk herself.

I should imagine it's similar in football.

And that's just the physical side aside from the valid points about there being many many more opportunities for boys and girls needing spaces for themselves.

What difference does it make really if they’re below or just beginning puberty. Boys are not inherently better than girls at football or any sport and whilst it’s an absolute cheek that they think the girls team is where they should send the below par boys, I don’t see why the sport should be gendered. If they let him in, if he’s no good playing with boys, he’ll be no good playing with girls and will probably drag them down anyway.

It is similar in football, the parents are arguing because some of the girls on the team have been excluded and benched for being a girl on mixed teams, or injured by a boy during football.

It's mad, nothing illegal about same sex teams just another woke parent expecting the world to evolve around their child.

The point being that girls and women have every right to have things just for girls and women, without entitled to fuck boys/men taking over at every opportunity.

This shit absolutely needs to stop.

Does anyone know the age of the boy? I can’t see it in the report.

I appreciate the replies to my question, all makes sense to me, unfortunately it seems like the FA rules need looking at.

It makes a big difference to those girls.

Why do you think the girls are opposed? Why do you think many of them swapped from mixed sex to girls only teams?

Why would they threaten to give up football if it doesn't make any difference?

This. Ds2 played in a boys football team & the manager also ran a girls team. The girls were 2 or 3 years older. Sometimes, they played friendlies against each other. Watching was really interesting. The girls played a much more technically correct game - more skilful passing etc - whilst the boys did a lot more booting the ball long distances. There were also no "solos" - players dribbling the entire length of the pitch and trying to score rather than passing - in the girls team.

Ds did play against the occasional mixed team. This was usually a rural team with one female player who was usually in the team because there weren't enough boys.

It's my understanding that players can't join a team mid-season anyway without permission from the FA or whoever 's in charge so I don't know why they're saying he has to join. Also, any team can turn away players if they already have enough or don't think they're good enough.