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To offer ticket to contentious friend

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Fireworkgrannyblanket · 27/02/2024 12:36

More of a WWYD really -

I'm going with a bunch of mates to see a band in a nearby city next month and DP can't come, so l've got a spare ticket. It's an hour or so on the train to get there, and we're going to get some food beforehand - so not a quick meet-at-the-venue-few-pints-and-home-again sort of do.

My issue is this - l've a friend who likes the band and would come if l offered her the ticket but who wouldn't gel with the rest of the people going. I've known her since we were kids and she's very good hearted but a bit Daily Mail in some of her opinions and the rest of the group are from my uni and far more woke. I don't want to spend the evening arguing but l feel bad not inviting her as l now have a spare ticket! I'm going round and round in my head over this so be brutal and help me!

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MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 28/02/2024 13:48

Fireworkgrannyblanket · 28/02/2024 13:34

Also, friends would be great at a party - they have been!

I was having doubts about introducing one woman with strong views into a pre-arranged get together with a largish group who didn't know her or agree with what she thought. It wouldn't have been enjoyable for her, them or me so l decided not to.

That's all really!

So she has 'strong views' but your close minded, judgemental, woke friends who would have apoplexy should they encounter a different opinion don't?
You've chosen your crew haven't you!

Fireworkgrannyblanket · 28/02/2024 13:48

@Newchapterbeckons What's insulting about that? They're all phrases she uses to describe herself. I don't know why you're getting so het up about this - l love her, l love them, l don't think they'd get on though, so DP's sold the ticket. Job done.

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Foxblue · 28/02/2024 13:49

Newchapterbeckons · 28/02/2024 12:17

In real life I enjoy great discussions - different views and all with humour. Do you socialise offline? I find people generally are very measured on the whole. Certainly I don’t consider it when making plans or inviting friends over

As do I! And I prefer to keep things humorous - I'm just sharing what has been my experience, I find it hard to have a light hearted debate when the other side are unwilling to actually discuss properly, reference evidence etc.

Newchapterbeckons · 28/02/2024 13:56

MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 28/02/2024 13:48

So she has 'strong views' but your close minded, judgemental, woke friends who would have apoplexy should they encounter a different opinion don't?
You've chosen your crew haven't you!

I agree with this op.
You are just harmful at this point.
I feel very sorry you can’t see that you sidelined her to keep your woke warriors from ripping into her because she hasn’t had their privilege (your words) I hope she chooses to spend time with friends thar care enough to remain loyal to her. That can be trusted not to judge and savage her, and respect and listen to her views that are at least as equal as yours and your ‘uni’ friends.

I am old enough to know that long standing proven friends that will be there in your darkest days are precious and valuable. Worth more than an unwanted ticket to a gig, and your new friends combined.

Newchapterbeckons · 28/02/2024 13:57

I very much doubt she headlines herself as daily mail reader op…

crockofshite · 28/02/2024 14:03

Fireworkgrannyblanket · 27/02/2024 18:31

@nononocontact Ha ha! No, that's not her - she's far more sensible!
DP thinks l should invite her, buy everyone shots and let nature take it's course, but l love them all so l'm not going to. The pesky ticket is out for re-sale and l feel better for it!

This is the best suggestion so far, light the tape and stand well back.

Newchapterbeckons · 28/02/2024 14:21

crockofshite · 28/02/2024 14:03

This is the best suggestion so far, light the tape and stand well back.

Yes we can all come! Sounds like a blinding night ☄️

Except it doesn’t really, as no doubt your friends views would be attacked by the superior wokes that pretend to be your friends. Their (im)moral judgement lorded over her.

I wouldn’t get too excited op, if you went to the same primary school as your friend I’m sure they are already quietly judging the hell out of you too. The apple and all that…

KreedKafer · 28/02/2024 17:02

Fireworkgrannyblanket · 27/02/2024 12:51

She's not a racist! Definitely not. It's more that she doesn't really believe that stress or anxiety is a reason for time off work and people could afford to buy their own houses if they drank less coffee - that sort of thing.

She likes to argue/discuss things, but she can be a bit like a dog with a bone once she gets onto a topic.

She sounds fucking dreadful.

74Violette · 29/02/2024 14:27

OP your 'woke' friends sound dreadful, judgemental and self-righteous. I feel a bit sorry for your friend as she probably would have enjoyed the gig with you and it's fun to meet new people.
Healthy, well-rounded opinions can only form by considering both sides of an argument and your friends sound very reluctant to do that with their pack mentality. Even if I don't agree with someone's outlook if they're willing to stand alone and debate their point, I can admire that. Anyway, it was a few drinks and a band, politics and the heavy stuff hopefully wouldn't have come up anyway.

Smoor · 29/02/2024 14:54

74Violette · 29/02/2024 14:27

OP your 'woke' friends sound dreadful, judgemental and self-righteous. I feel a bit sorry for your friend as she probably would have enjoyed the gig with you and it's fun to meet new people.
Healthy, well-rounded opinions can only form by considering both sides of an argument and your friends sound very reluctant to do that with their pack mentality. Even if I don't agree with someone's outlook if they're willing to stand alone and debate their point, I can admire that. Anyway, it was a few drinks and a band, politics and the heavy stuff hopefully wouldn't have come up anyway.

What's the 'other side' of 'You'd be able to buy your own house if you stopped drinking coffee, poor person'?

74Violette · 29/02/2024 15:53

Smoor · 29/02/2024 14:54

What's the 'other side' of 'You'd be able to buy your own house if you stopped drinking coffee, poor person'?

Smoor, I'm a relatively poor person and it wouldn't ruin my night if someone has a differing, annoying opinion. I have friends that have many different views that formed from their many different experiences. That's life. We have to accept that not all of think the same way.

Smoor · 29/02/2024 16:31

74Violette · 29/02/2024 15:53

Smoor, I'm a relatively poor person and it wouldn't ruin my night if someone has a differing, annoying opinion. I have friends that have many different views that formed from their many different experiences. That's life. We have to accept that not all of think the same way.

Well, good for you, you are clearly a highly tolerant person who is unrepelled by stupidity.

But I was responding to the posters who have been saying 'we need to listen to all sides of a debate before we form our own judgement of an issue, otherwise we are living in an echo chamber'.

There is no 'side' to 'if poor people didn't buy coffee, they would be able to buy themselves houses'.

That is a belligerently stupid fallacy. Giving it headspace will reward you with nothing other than a recognition that some people clearly have no understanding of the facts of other people's lives. Is that enriching in itself?

Spinet · 29/02/2024 16:50

@smoor I agree with your points about coffee and houses etc, but the fact is if we can't stand next to someone at a concert who doesn't think that, or at least try to find something in common that isn't our obvious difference in opinion about Brexit or whatever, there's not much hope for the future of humanity is there?

Newchapterbeckons · 29/02/2024 19:28

Spinet · 29/02/2024 16:50

@smoor I agree with your points about coffee and houses etc, but the fact is if we can't stand next to someone at a concert who doesn't think that, or at least try to find something in common that isn't our obvious difference in opinion about Brexit or whatever, there's not much hope for the future of humanity is there?

I agree. How do we even have a democracy without a space to discuss all views?! 🤷🏼‍♀️

iwafs · 29/02/2024 19:33

Fireworkgrannyblanket · 27/02/2024 12:59

To be honest, we've been friends since primary school when we lived in the same village but if we met now l'm not sure that we'd click in the same way. She's a very kind person who'd do anything for you and l feel like a really shit friend for having doubts but l tend to see her on my own and she sometimes comes out with stuff that makes me wince, so l'm a bit dubious about throwing her in with my college crowd who are also quite outspoken but in the other direction, if you see what l mean!

They will presumably roast her if she comes out with stuff that’s a bit much?

MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 29/02/2024 20:02

iwafs · 29/02/2024 19:33

They will presumably roast her if she comes out with stuff that’s a bit much?

Stuff they find too much?..
Can she 'roast' them if she finds their wokery too much?

Fireworkgrannyblanket · 29/02/2024 22:12

Point is l don't want anyone to get roasted! Hence the dilema. Anyway, it's all fixed now. No-one died. All is fine.

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