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What is she up to?

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DontVisitCabotCove · 25/02/2024 16:18

DB, his partner “Jane” & her 2 kids have been staying with me - in my house - after the house they were buying fell through. They had been looking at other properties to buy but have since decided to end their relationship so that’s no longer happening.

Yesterday while my DB and I were out and unbeknownst to me, Jane had an estate agent over to value my house & as he was leaving he told her he’d send her an email with the valuation & they were talking about viewings etc.

Today Jane asked me to give her a letter stating that my brother is living here but wouldn’t tell me why she wanted it & was really unhappy when I said I’d give her a letter saying they were both temporarily staying with me as that’s the actual truth.

What on earth could she be up to? I’m honestly baffled!

Should I tell her that I know about the valuation? Should I tell my DB about all of this?

On one hand I don’t want to get involved in their troubles or make things worse (things are bad enough between them already) but on the other hand I feel I’m being drawn into it as it’s my bloody house she had valued!

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Sumarokoff · 25/02/2024 21:04

OP, you say that they moved in with you after their house purchase fell through. Are you sure that is 100% the truth? It may be true, but could it be that they had an ulterior motive -- or, at least, Jane had? I apologise for being suspicious and I wish you good health.

IgglePiggledidawiggle · 25/02/2024 21:05

If you have a life limiting illness she might have an eye on your will…

Woodyandbuzz1 · 25/02/2024 21:05

Are you absolutely sure it was an estate agent? Could she have been getting something else valued?

betterangels · 25/02/2024 21:07

Wow, this is awful. I hope your brother was appalled. He should be.

Rosscameasdoody · 25/02/2024 21:11

DontVisitCabotCove · 25/02/2024 19:34

Thanks all, I naively assumed that there would be multiple checks and balances in place that would prevent major fraud so her trying to sell my house or anything of that magnitude didn’t even enter my head.

I have now signed up for land registry alerts and will also get on the Form LL restriction first thing tomorrow so thank you to the posters who suggested it.

I’ve spoken to my DB, sent him the footage and he’s going to deal with her so she won’t be coming back; the kids are currently with their dad anyway so all good on that front. DB will pack up their stuff and move it out and I’ll get the locks changed tomorrow too.

To those who asked, I have no idea who the agent is beyond their first name.

Fraudsters frequently target sole owners with no mortgage to commit property theft, so you’ve done the right thing by taking these steps. If the EA was talking about arranging viewings I would expect one of their colleagues to return to take photos of the property and for it to be listed not only on their own website, but on Rightmove too. They can’t market a property without a brochure and online details. Has there been any opportunity for this to happen without your knowledge ? If so I would monitor sites like Zoopla and Rightmove for any details appearing there. If she has misrepresented herself to the EA as the owner of the property she’s already committing fraud, so I would consider also reporting her to the police - they will get to the bottom of it and scare her off continuing with whatever it was she had planned.

MagentaRocks · 25/02/2024 21:11

@DontVisitCabotCove look on Rightmove to see if the house is there, you will be able to see who the estate agent is if it’s on there.

Snugglemonkey · 25/02/2024 21:12

Grotbag81 · 25/02/2024 18:07

It's a CF stunt to pull.

I'm inclined to think she wants to live near you, or continue living with you and buying half your house, could be pricing the area, may have felt rude asking you directly.

You can find out that information with a few simple googles. No need for estate agents!

Redcar78 · 25/02/2024 21:16

Mumofteenandtween · 25/02/2024 16:30

It seems obvious to me - she wants to be able today “Fred is adequately housed in a house worth £XXX. Therefore I should get most / all our joint assets to house me and the children.”

This

SheepAndSword · 25/02/2024 21:18

It's a shame but you need both her and your brother away from you at present.

Their relationship seems volatile and you don't really know what's going on.

Wetblanket78 · 25/02/2024 21:18

I'd be kicking her out though DB and children welcome to stay as long as needed.

SheepAndSword · 25/02/2024 21:20

Redcar78 · 25/02/2024 21:16

This

Honestly she can't though (unless she lies), they were boyfriend/girlfriend and don't have children together.

If their deposit for house is pooled then that should be separated immediately.

SheepAndSword · 25/02/2024 21:21

Wetblanket78 · 25/02/2024 21:18

I'd be kicking her out though DB and children welcome to stay as long as needed.

Not DB's children

Rosestulips · 25/02/2024 21:21

I find it quite sinister, what on earth is she up to?!

hope whatever scheme she had began has now been halted. Take care @DontVisitCabotCove

MadMadamMimz · 25/02/2024 21:21

If you haven't already given her the letter then don't. Do not give her anything.

Agree that you need to contact all estate agents in the area with the wording suggested by pp. You can construct a generic email and copy and paste to all of them. I'm sure your DB could help you get a list of the email addresses of estate agents together.

JudgeJ · 25/02/2024 21:24

Get her out & get your locks changed & seek legal advice & put in writing to the estate agent who valued it that it's not her house to sell !

You can also register with the Land Registry so that if anyone tries to sell your house and it has happened fraudulently, they will inform you.

JudgeJ · 25/02/2024 21:27

Nicole1111 · 25/02/2024 18:09

I’m presuming she wants to claim it’s your brother’s home so that he can serve as a guarantor for her new rental.

Why on earth should he act as guarantor? As the OP refers to 'her children' I assume they're not his so not his responsibility.

Andthereyougo · 25/02/2024 21:28

Can you do a copy and paste email to as many local estate agents as you can stating you are the legal sole owner of x address. If they had been asked to carry out a valuation on this property this instruction did not come from you. It may have come from someone purporting to be you and you are not selling your property.

She may well have pretended to be you as any EA worth their salt would che k the land registry.

I hope you get this sorted , you don’t need the worry.

Reluctantcareprovider · 25/02/2024 21:29

Hatty65 · 25/02/2024 16:21

I admire your restraint. I don't know how you found out, but I'd have been asking her what the fuck she thought she was doing having your house valued. It's such a massive intrusion of privacy - showing an estate agent round and discussing holding viewings. It's beyond weird.

This
she needs to leave immediately- throw her stuff out the house

it is a MASSIVE breach of trust and appalling..what the fuck does she think she’ll actually achieve from this given any orders about finances will quickly reveal your brother has no rights to remain in house

you need to talk to db and say he has to leave as well, due to this, as clearly she is trying to show he has someone to live permanently, but at a loss really how this will help?

also tlak to Estate agent. Ask why they did not ask for proof she was registered owner of property before attending. Tell them they need to remove all records of their information form their data bases and systems and delete your records. Threaten to complain to data protection act ombudsman if they don’t give you that reassurance immedately.

Quizine · 25/02/2024 21:29

Isn't it a bit odd that the house purchase "fell through" so they had to move into yours. Where were they living whilst trying to buy and why did they have to leave it to go to yours? And also, the timing of the relationship break up so soon after moving into yours is odd too. What led to that so suddenly?

OK, I might come across as being very nosey. But my antenna is up about the way this all came about in the first place.

Reluctantcareprovider · 25/02/2024 21:30

Oh, and also, make sure you go onto the land registry site and set up notifications for you to know if ANYONE is requesting your deeds.
Everyone should do this anyway…but if she’s trying some scam do it now…takes a few mins and costs NOTHING.

Confusedmeanderings · 25/02/2024 21:33

F

Reluctantcareprovider · 25/02/2024 21:33

I’d also report to police.she is fraudulently representing herself to estate agents at least…

Mumofteenandtween · 25/02/2024 21:34

Have you tried googling “Name estate agents Place you live”.

Generally they will have photos so you will be able to check if it is the right one.

Wafflesandcrepes · 25/02/2024 21:35

maximist · 25/02/2024 16:30

Get on the Land Registry website and register for an alert if anyone tries to change anything about the house registration.

This. Now.

Nicole1111 · 25/02/2024 21:35

JudgeJ · 25/02/2024 21:27

Why on earth should he act as guarantor? As the OP refers to 'her children' I assume they're not his so not his responsibility.

I don’t think he should. I think he should run as fast as his legs can possibly carry him. I was just pondering on why all the skulduggery.

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