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What is she up to?

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DontVisitCabotCove · 25/02/2024 16:18

DB, his partner “Jane” & her 2 kids have been staying with me - in my house - after the house they were buying fell through. They had been looking at other properties to buy but have since decided to end their relationship so that’s no longer happening.

Yesterday while my DB and I were out and unbeknownst to me, Jane had an estate agent over to value my house & as he was leaving he told her he’d send her an email with the valuation & they were talking about viewings etc.

Today Jane asked me to give her a letter stating that my brother is living here but wouldn’t tell me why she wanted it & was really unhappy when I said I’d give her a letter saying they were both temporarily staying with me as that’s the actual truth.

What on earth could she be up to? I’m honestly baffled!

Should I tell her that I know about the valuation? Should I tell my DB about all of this?

On one hand I don’t want to get involved in their troubles or make things worse (things are bad enough between them already) but on the other hand I feel I’m being drawn into it as it’s my bloody house she had valued!

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Quizine · 25/02/2024 20:36

@DontVisitCabotCove , if you find out what she is doing, I for one would be very grateful if you could come back to the thread and let us know what she tried to do. It might help me (and others) to become aware of the way fraud happens in situations like this, and to help people be on alert.

It may of course be totally innocent, but I doubt it, given your brother's reaction when you told him.

Thank you.

user146990847202 · 25/02/2024 20:40

How bizarre OP!
I think using a valuation letter to be some sort of income guarantee on a rental property is the most likely bet…sorry you've had this stress when your not feeling on top form.

LittleGlowingOblong · 25/02/2024 20:42

Does your DB stand to inherit from you, OP?

God forbid they’ve both moved in with ill intent!!

GRex · 25/02/2024 20:42

DontVisitCabotCove · 25/02/2024 19:34

Thanks all, I naively assumed that there would be multiple checks and balances in place that would prevent major fraud so her trying to sell my house or anything of that magnitude didn’t even enter my head.

I have now signed up for land registry alerts and will also get on the Form LL restriction first thing tomorrow so thank you to the posters who suggested it.

I’ve spoken to my DB, sent him the footage and he’s going to deal with her so she won’t be coming back; the kids are currently with their dad anyway so all good on that front. DB will pack up their stuff and move it out and I’ll get the locks changed tomorrow too.

To those who asked, I have no idea who the agent is beyond their first name.

Good work OP. Write an email explanation that states this ia attempted fraud, no valuation should be sent and please contact you; send it to every local estate agent you can find. Once the basic email is written, it isn't much harder to contact 10 estate agents than one.

Good luck and so sorry this woman is causing you unnecessary stress.

WhoaJayShettybambalam · 25/02/2024 20:42

Maybe call some local estate agents to see if you can find out which company it was?

She sounds bizarre.

PringPring · 25/02/2024 20:43

This so the most bizarre thing Ive read in a good while! How worrying.

Personally I'd report this to the police. Even if all they do is log it, its still worthwhile.

If you have a solicitor I'd make your will clear too. Check your finances and banking as well, I'd not trust her as far as I could throw her.

I wonder if you can find the estate agent. Maybe your brother could do the leg work if you're not able to. It's awful she's up to no good when you are so poorly. 😡

Have you ever given her a letter with your signature on? Could she have made copies of your documents? Very concerning all round.

madeinmanc · 25/02/2024 20:44

I would be LIVID. What a betrayal of your trust. So sorry she has behaved this badly towards you. I hope you get to the bottom of it and don't give them so much as a discarded bus ticket, let alone any letter, is all I can say!

Chouquettes · 25/02/2024 20:45

DontVisitCabotCove · 25/02/2024 16:18

DB, his partner “Jane” & her 2 kids have been staying with me - in my house - after the house they were buying fell through. They had been looking at other properties to buy but have since decided to end their relationship so that’s no longer happening.

Yesterday while my DB and I were out and unbeknownst to me, Jane had an estate agent over to value my house & as he was leaving he told her he’d send her an email with the valuation & they were talking about viewings etc.

Today Jane asked me to give her a letter stating that my brother is living here but wouldn’t tell me why she wanted it & was really unhappy when I said I’d give her a letter saying they were both temporarily staying with me as that’s the actual truth.

What on earth could she be up to? I’m honestly baffled!

Should I tell her that I know about the valuation? Should I tell my DB about all of this?

On one hand I don’t want to get involved in their troubles or make things worse (things are bad enough between them already) but on the other hand I feel I’m being drawn into it as it’s my bloody house she had valued!

Does she need a guarantor for the new flat?

Mostlyoblivious · 25/02/2024 20:45

Absolutely do not give her anything you’ve written and signed.

Tell your brother and also tell them the date that they are leaving.

Beautiful3 · 25/02/2024 20:46

How weird? I'd ask your brother to confront her. Change the locks and don't allow her back in. Let us know, if you find out why she did this. I'm sorry that you're not well, I wish you the very best.

butterpuffed · 25/02/2024 20:46

Mrspatmoresspoon · 25/02/2024 19:48

She sounds batshit

That's not the term I'd use , more like conniving , manipulative , out for what she can get .

BeverForget · 25/02/2024 20:47

Hope you get this sorted OP.
Maybe plant some pampas grass and get a pineapple doorknocker in the meantime though.

SheepAndSword · 25/02/2024 20:48

Mostlyoblivious · 25/02/2024 20:45

Absolutely do not give her anything you’ve written and signed.

Tell your brother and also tell them the date that they are leaving.

She's not coming back fortunately; as brother may be still attached to her in some way it's best if he moves on too.

If they were about to buy a property they both should have enough for rental temporarily.

RoseAndRose · 25/02/2024 20:50

GRex · 25/02/2024 17:57

I expect she is thinking ahead to your brother inheriting, he needs to sever ties asap. However, people do target unmortgaged properties for fraudulent sale and she may be doing that. I would call the police to have her warned off attempts to sell your home, and serve an eviction notice tomorrow that's written by a solicitor to reduce mistake risk. Are you registered for property alerts? If there is no mortgage then you absolutely must register. Email the estate agents immediately to get them to give proof of her actions to police while not giving her the valuation.

How do you register for property alerts?

StaunchMomma · 25/02/2024 20:51

Sometimes I find people's reported actions on this platform just mouth open astounding.

This is one of those times.

This woman had YOUR house valuated AND YOU HAVEN'T TORN HER A NEW ONE?!! You're STILL putting her up AND keeping quiet, so not to 'cause trouble'?!!

WTF, OP!

You absolutely earned the annoying capitalisation above!

StaunchMomma · 25/02/2024 20:52

Also, I agree that you need to speak to the estate agents and report this to the Police as possibly fraudulent activity.

This is not something to sit on and let your DB handle.

Pollypocket81 · 25/02/2024 20:52

DontVisitCabotCove · 25/02/2024 19:34

Thanks all, I naively assumed that there would be multiple checks and balances in place that would prevent major fraud so her trying to sell my house or anything of that magnitude didn’t even enter my head.

I have now signed up for land registry alerts and will also get on the Form LL restriction first thing tomorrow so thank you to the posters who suggested it.

I’ve spoken to my DB, sent him the footage and he’s going to deal with her so she won’t be coming back; the kids are currently with their dad anyway so all good on that front. DB will pack up their stuff and move it out and I’ll get the locks changed tomorrow too.

To those who asked, I have no idea who the agent is beyond their first name.

I'd be ringing around all local estate agents and asking to speak to "insert first name of visiting agent". You'll find out pretty quickly who it is and you can make sure nothing untoward is happening.
I imagine she is trying to get money out of your DB and will state that he is living in a house that is worth £xxxxx and maybe state it is an asset.

StaunchMomma · 25/02/2024 20:54

Just seen the update. Thank feck you said something, OP!

This is the most CF thing I've read on here in quite some time, and that's saying something.

I do still think you need to report her to Police.

SheepAndSword · 25/02/2024 20:56

People keep saying that she's trying to get money out of DB but can't see how she can, not married and they don't have children together

UniversalAunt · 25/02/2024 20:58

Such odd behaviour from her.

OP, you are wise to take steps to protect yourself.

Were she a fraudster, she may have enough personal information to take out fraudulent loans & financial products in your name, so it’s worth keeping an eye on the main credit agencies’s reports to double check that there has been no unusual activity using your personal details.

Take care.

LaylaLayla1 · 25/02/2024 21:01

Gosh OP I am worried on your behalf, I hope you get to the bottom of this. Does anyone else live in the house with you permanently?

She is a completely cheeky cow, and I hope you get to the bottom of it. No doubt she will have an excuse ready for your brother. Please please please do not let her or her children cross over your threshold again.

Rosscameasdoody · 25/02/2024 21:02

RoseAndRose · 25/02/2024 20:50

How do you register for property alerts?

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here’s a link to the website where you can open an account and set up property alerts.

https://propertyalert.landregistry.gov.uk/

https://propertyalert.landregistry.gov.uk/

Getupat8amnow · 25/02/2024 21:03

She wants a valuation letter and will then use the OP as a guarantor on a rental property - fraudulently of course. If I am correct you could end up being liable if she defaulted on rent payments or damages a rental property.

OP you must log her actions with the police and a solicitor. Ring round a few local estate agents and ask for the man named the name recorded on your ring doorbell.

please keep this thread updated. I am astonished and so cross on your behalf regarding her terrible behaviour. I am sorry about your illness and disgusted you are being taken advantage of at this difficult time in your life by someone you willingly helped by letting them stay with you.

mirax · 25/02/2024 21:03

Op, sorry to hear that you are ill. The timing of this cheekyfuckery may be related to your illness. You may be too exhausted to deal with this alone and given that it was your DB who brought this mess into your home at this time, he may not be the best person to deal with this. Please get a trusted family friend or member in, so you are not alone with these two at any point. Best wishes on the health front. You really dont need this aggravation.