Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to think that 6000 per month is excessive for the government to take off my pay for tax?

840 replies

tootaxed · 23/03/2008 19:45

Surely there should be a maximum limit that each person has to pay as tax? Six grand per month in tax is just excessive imo. And that is before NI contributions etc. If the government set a maximum tax limit they would take more care over how they spent their central funds. And I wouldn't have to work so many hours away from my DCs only to have 72 bloody grand a year taken off my income to fund their mis-spending.

OP posts:
Flubdub · 24/03/2008 15:04

Xenia - you pratt

SenoraPostrophe · 24/03/2008 15:09

omg, I can't bring myself to read this thread.

yes, 6000 is an excessive amount of tax to pay, but, fuck, it's an excessive amount to earn.

I think the implication that anyone who thinks that "earnings" of more than 150K a year excessive is just jealous is ridiculous. No job is worth that.

Judy1234 · 24/03/2008 16:08

Ah, but surely something is worth what someone else will pay for it.

Loads of people earn a lot more than I do but I don't think that's morally wrong or they aren't worth what they are being paid.

I think once you've paid say £50k a year in tax you've done your bit and shoudln't have to pay more.But I can't think of a country where the tax rules are to that effect. Yes there are flat taxes of 10% in bulgaria but not capped flat taxes. So I don't think we're going to be able to get them capped here nor move to one rate. I do like the simplication the tories brought in years ago of one lower, one higher rate and which from very shortly we will have once more - in this case 20% and 40%. Taxes are far too complicated so any simplification is a good thing. Perhaps we should merge national insurance and tax and just call it tax and have one higher rater of 41% for the new tax/NI or even 40% if we can cut back the public sector a bit to afford that.

SenoraPostrophe · 24/03/2008 16:11

no, something is not worth what someone will pay for it, that would be its price.

Fridayfeeling · 24/03/2008 16:44

What you are basically saying is that taxation of personal income is an infringement of people's right to keep what they earn. But that infringement is nothing compared to the experience of those denied viable economic opportunities.

I really hope you can see that.

LeaveThatEggAloneNaughtyNigel · 24/03/2008 16:50

go and save a couple of lives, clean up somme shite and deal with irate relatives and the frustrations of the NHS then come back here and ask whether if qwhat you're doing is worth what you're being paid for it.
am so bloody irate i'm going - you bl;oody spoiled self rightous madam

QuintessentiallyAnEmptyCave · 24/03/2008 16:54

I know what you mean. I recently had to pay the revenue £68 K in one go. I was fighting them tooth and nail for it. But in the end, who wants a county court judgement?
My MY MY Money. Only my money. I was so saddened. But I am working hard on coming to terms with my own greed every day.

LeaveThatEggAloneNaughtyNigel · 24/03/2008 17:04

just an excuse to say - look at me - poor me - i'm worth so much more than all of you -

Oblomov · 24/03/2008 17:15

I don't think it should be capped.
That would just mean that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Oh no sorry, thats already going on in the UK

Judy1234 · 24/03/2008 17:39

Clearly Cameron has the right idea in not pushing tax cuts in order to get elected. There is no mood for it in the UK as this thread shows, I think so he's being wise. I still don't rule out Bulgaria though. How many nights a year do I have to be out of the UK? I suspect it's more complicated than that and they've just got in a mess over what counts as a day in the UK and meetings in transit between countries at Heathrow etc. 10% is very tempting and in these days where a lot of what we do is by email anyway it can be done anywhere. Must build a house on the island although tax there for locals at highest rate is 33% I think which is not low enough to justify a move. But they do try to attract ex pats.

Switzerland is so dull. Monaco never appealed although Philip Green moved there and many others have.

yurt1 · 24/03/2008 17:50

I think anywhere full of expats droning on about their tax bills dahling is going to be on the dull side.

pagwatch · 24/03/2008 17:53

"Monaco never appealed although Philip Green moved there and many others have"

mmmm - Philip Green. Tempting

See, at first glance that looks pretty dull but I bet he's a riot when he's had a few!

Quattrocento · 24/03/2008 18:46

It is true that very few women earn over £100k. Obviously it is true that very few people earn over £100k but of those people by far and away the majority are men.

I'd be interested in understanding what it is that causes women to drop out and helping and enabling women to further their careers.

quarkee · 24/03/2008 19:02

yes but Switzerland does have chocolate and skiing...not that I can ski

kerala · 24/03/2008 19:03

Quattro I have a few suggestions:

  • Because of the killer hours so they dont see their children or indeed the world outside the office.
  • The realisation that the people in control of the business who they are supposed to want to emulate and have been financially "succesful" are shallow, hollow and empty. And are never really happy because it is never quite enough.
  • Because they are smart enough to figure out that there is more to life than making as much money as you can to buy more and more pointless things.

I could go on.

quarkee · 24/03/2008 19:04

cant believe this thread is still alive and kicking btw - have we drawn up the MN manifesto for fairer taxation yet or is it a job lot of tickets to your tax haven of choice (Lichtenstein is nice)

DarthVader · 24/03/2008 19:04

Well I suggest you make a large donation to the appropriate political party.

Probably also best to complain about your tax burden to folk who earn similar amounts if you are hoping for sympathy! Did you mistake mumsnet for multimillionairesnet?!

For someone able to earn that much money it is a bit weird that you would misjudge the forum for your post so naively.

WalnutEGGshell · 24/03/2008 19:05

"The fact so many women pick low paid work or low paid husbands and then are jealous when others are more successful is very funny really but I don't think the sin of envy is admirable"

Aren't you rather glad someone does the low paid work though, Xenia? I mean, your philosophy isn't sustainable in reality.

You also frequently show an incredible lack of charity and generosity of spirity which I do not find synonymous with having a strong faith.

WalnutEGGshell · 24/03/2008 19:08

spirity, spirit, whatever..

quarkee · 24/03/2008 19:09

quattro - from my experience it is pretty much impossible to committ to the hours you are expected to do and the travel - for example I am expected to drop everything and go to Brussels on Wednesday night for a 9am Thursday meeting just becasue the others dont want to start at 10am - no flexibility at all and for no apparant reason just sheer bl##dymindedness - most women would choose eventually to not do the extra night away. the result is less promotion chances. Unfair but unavoidable.

Quattrocento · 24/03/2008 19:14

I do think that the high tax rates are a disincentive to many and emigration to a low tax regime is not always practical or possible ...

mrz · 24/03/2008 19:22

Do you think the OP made a mistake or was the result what they intended all along?

milkgoddess · 24/03/2008 19:40

xenia, you are amazingly narrow minded for someone that claims to be so well educated. my bet is you regret the amount of time that you spent away from your children.

sad really, as money is just that...momey

time,love, happiness and great memories are what i want from life.
not just more money spend on this i don't really want, or really need.

how would you react, if your dd [do you have one?] wanted to be a sahm?

milkgoddess · 24/03/2008 19:42

pagwatch

what a wonderful saying !
'knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing'

yurt1 · 24/03/2008 19:45

I was going to say the same as Darth. If I paid that much tax, I probably would moan. In my circle of friends earning the same as me.

If I moaned about paying that much tax to one of the members of my family for example they'd not tolerate the whinging.

It's not that hard to work out that there are people living in a wide variety of circumstances who use mumsnet.

IME kerala has it right with her reasons why people give up highly paid work.