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SIL drama

97 replies

Tired75613 · 16/02/2024 20:06

Long one, apologies.
My SIL (husbands brothers new wife) has always caused a bit of drama in the 6ish years we've known her, she 'says it as it is' and is very much her way or no way, will walk into your house and tell you everything she doesn't like, find fault in anything and cause an argument about absolutely anything. Myself and my husband tended to just ignore it, bite our tongues but eventually would end up taking the bait and falling out, not talk for a while. Once they had a child the cycle would end with us giving in first and apologising for whatever she deemed necessary so we could still see our DN and keep family happy. After several cycles of this happening and the last argument being so ridiculous we decided to give up with them a bit, not continue to play her game, and just leave them to it and be available for a relationship if they stop being silly about it.
(I won't go in to the arguments as it would be outing, but 100% we aren't in the wrong, affirmed by several other people, plus the fact she has fallen out with half the people she's met).
We've left it with saying that we are happy to be civil and see each other for family sake, we obviously miss our DN and our children miss her a lot, but its been made very clear we aren't allowed to see DN and SIL doesn't ever want to see us until we apologise and a long list of demands.

Sad but it is what it is, we can't live our lives playing along with her drama, especially as its become clear her and BIL don't care about our children who they used to see regularly.

Now the issue is just before the last fall out they moved to the town where we've lived for about 8 years. We happened to go to a kids place at the same time as them, SIL made a big scene about leaving because we were there. They now seem to have realised that raising children in the same town its quite likely for this to happen again, and have been sent a list of places/events that we aren't allowed to go on certain days in case they to, even the school they plan to send DN to to make sure we don't send our DC there! I personally don't care if I see her, I'm happy to be civil and say hello, or just ignore her, but I do now feel anxious about her causing issues for me

FIL and MIL clearly arent happy about the behaviour but doesn't get involved as to be honest it would backfire on them, and they are very close to DN. Any communication between DH and BIL seems to go through her so no chance of speaking sense to him, he also seems stuck in the middle.

AIBU to think the person with the issue should be the one to avoid the other? Any tips to manage this? If we do whatever she wants to 'make up' it will all just be repeated a few months down the line, we've been there before.

OP posts:
Collywobblewobbles · 16/02/2024 20:08

have been sent a list of places/events that we aren't allowed to go on certain days in case they to, even the school they plan to send DN to to make sure we don't send our DC there!

That's batshit.
Ignore.

Pixilicious1 · 16/02/2024 20:09

Ignore their demands. Who the hell do they think they are??

Aquamarine1029 · 16/02/2024 20:10

Don't even consider avoiding places per her batshit demands. She does not own the town, or you, and you never, ever give in to emotional terrorism. If I were you, she would no longer exist in my world. If she doesn't want to be near you, she can be the one to leave.

Nudgethatjudge · 16/02/2024 20:11

They wrote a list??

Tell them to stop being daft.

OdinsHorse · 16/02/2024 20:13

Collywobblewobbles · 16/02/2024 20:08

have been sent a list of places/events that we aren't allowed to go on certain days in case they to, even the school they plan to send DN to to make sure we don't send our DC there!

That's batshit.
Ignore.

Edited

This with fucking bells on

Repeat after me: thats nice dear

KrisAkabusi · 16/02/2024 20:14

Ignore them. A list is mental.

CornishTiger · 16/02/2024 20:14

Id reply to their list and say gosh what wonderful decision making you have - they match ours. See you around!

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/02/2024 20:14

Yes, definitely ignore.

Curious though, why 'new wife'? She's been around years.

Greenpolkadot · 16/02/2024 20:16

She sounds a real cow.
Don't be doormats. Carry on your life as you see fit.. go where you like when you like. If she causes a fuss it's her who will look the cunt.
Her and your spineless bil

BobbyBiscuits · 16/02/2024 20:19

How deeply bizarre she would send you a list of where you are permitted to be at specific times. Just send her a message back saying
'Just to let you know, you are not permitted to be anywhere within a 1 mile radius of (your village/town) from Monday to Sunday, between the hours of 5am- 11pm. In order to ensure you do not have to face the horror of encountering me and my child.
Thanks for your co-operation.'
Haha. That might work?

Porfirio · 16/02/2024 20:24

Chances are she'll fall out with neighbours and they'll move.

Speed it along by sending them info on places that are for sale outside of your area that might suit them.

If you see her when you're out, wave and or say hello and go about your business. If she chooses to have a tantrum, look bewildered and concerned and ask loudly if she has missed taking her medication.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 16/02/2024 20:24

Write 'no' on the list, and send it back.

BoredAuditor · 16/02/2024 20:26

Ignore. Ignore. Ignore

coldcallerbaiter · 16/02/2024 20:26

Wait, they sent you an actual list?
I would go to every place on the list and grin at her.

LittleOwl153 · 16/02/2024 20:27

I'd bin the list otherwise you will be constantly watching yourself. That is her choice of how to live not yours.

Beyond that I'd ignore it. At somepoint she will blow it up or they will move away. Part of the problem is you have all pandered to her for so long it is going to take her longer to get over herself as she believes you will give in.

How far away do you live... hopefully feasibly far enough away for separate school catchments? How old are the kids? It sounds like yours are older... in which case she will have to choose whatever school you don't won't she!

poetryandwine · 16/02/2024 20:30

The only solution is to ignore the list and behave well, if distantly, should you happen to run into SIL. If you start giving in to her demands she will just escalate them

Hadalifeonce · 16/02/2024 20:30

Please say you aren't even considering giving in to her list of demands and no gos?

Gemstar3 · 16/02/2024 20:31

Wow, I’m sorry you’re going through this OP, it sounds very stressful. I think the only thing you can realistically do is ignore the histrionics and carry on with your life. Hopefully she will find a new outlet for her drama if you continue to ignore it, including by going places you would usually go whenever you would usually go there, regardless of her list.

cheddercherry · 16/02/2024 20:31

Just ignore her, you know if she happens to be there she’ll flounce off anyway and then you can just get on and enjoy your time. At least she won’t sit and give you daggers and makes a dramatic exit!

You can’t reason with crazy so just don’t engage and if she makes a scene it’s her who looks ridiculous.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 16/02/2024 20:35

My brother tried that one. I replied simply “I won’t be taking your calendar into consideration whilst getting on with my life”.

He made a song and dance about leaving places for a while, but got bored of it eventually when people stopped being interested in his dramatic stories of “that evil woman took her children to soft play just to spite me”

ignore them and get on with your life

Concestor · 16/02/2024 20:35

I would reply "we will not be avoiding going anywhere, as we are happy to be civil to you when and if we meet. You are of course welcome to avoid anywhere you wish"

Then ignore any further messages. What a crazy request!

Concestor · 16/02/2024 20:35

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 16/02/2024 20:35

My brother tried that one. I replied simply “I won’t be taking your calendar into consideration whilst getting on with my life”.

He made a song and dance about leaving places for a while, but got bored of it eventually when people stopped being interested in his dramatic stories of “that evil woman took her children to soft play just to spite me”

ignore them and get on with your life

Edited

Oh I like that! What a great reply

nighttimeforgenerals88 · 16/02/2024 20:36

This is one of the crazier things I've read in a while. Can your MIL & PIL talk to your BIL about it?

I would ignore the list of demands, for sure. Hopefully you'll have a good relationship with your DN at some point soon. It's a real shame your SIL is refusing to let that happen, and your BIL isn't doing anything to help.

pizzaHeart · 16/02/2024 20:36

LittleOwl153 · 16/02/2024 20:27

I'd bin the list otherwise you will be constantly watching yourself. That is her choice of how to live not yours.

Beyond that I'd ignore it. At somepoint she will blow it up or they will move away. Part of the problem is you have all pandered to her for so long it is going to take her longer to get over herself as she believes you will give in.

How far away do you live... hopefully feasibly far enough away for separate school catchments? How old are the kids? It sounds like yours are older... in which case she will have to choose whatever school you don't won't she!

I agree with this^
I wouldn’t want to think about her list subconsciously so it’s better to throw it away / to delete.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 16/02/2024 20:37

Concestor · 16/02/2024 20:35

Oh I like that! What a great reply

Folks on here helped me compose and simplify it