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SIL drama

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Tired75613 · 16/02/2024 20:06

Long one, apologies.
My SIL (husbands brothers new wife) has always caused a bit of drama in the 6ish years we've known her, she 'says it as it is' and is very much her way or no way, will walk into your house and tell you everything she doesn't like, find fault in anything and cause an argument about absolutely anything. Myself and my husband tended to just ignore it, bite our tongues but eventually would end up taking the bait and falling out, not talk for a while. Once they had a child the cycle would end with us giving in first and apologising for whatever she deemed necessary so we could still see our DN and keep family happy. After several cycles of this happening and the last argument being so ridiculous we decided to give up with them a bit, not continue to play her game, and just leave them to it and be available for a relationship if they stop being silly about it.
(I won't go in to the arguments as it would be outing, but 100% we aren't in the wrong, affirmed by several other people, plus the fact she has fallen out with half the people she's met).
We've left it with saying that we are happy to be civil and see each other for family sake, we obviously miss our DN and our children miss her a lot, but its been made very clear we aren't allowed to see DN and SIL doesn't ever want to see us until we apologise and a long list of demands.

Sad but it is what it is, we can't live our lives playing along with her drama, especially as its become clear her and BIL don't care about our children who they used to see regularly.

Now the issue is just before the last fall out they moved to the town where we've lived for about 8 years. We happened to go to a kids place at the same time as them, SIL made a big scene about leaving because we were there. They now seem to have realised that raising children in the same town its quite likely for this to happen again, and have been sent a list of places/events that we aren't allowed to go on certain days in case they to, even the school they plan to send DN to to make sure we don't send our DC there! I personally don't care if I see her, I'm happy to be civil and say hello, or just ignore her, but I do now feel anxious about her causing issues for me

FIL and MIL clearly arent happy about the behaviour but doesn't get involved as to be honest it would backfire on them, and they are very close to DN. Any communication between DH and BIL seems to go through her so no chance of speaking sense to him, he also seems stuck in the middle.

AIBU to think the person with the issue should be the one to avoid the other? Any tips to manage this? If we do whatever she wants to 'make up' it will all just be repeated a few months down the line, we've been there before.

OP posts:
MayThe4th · 16/02/2024 22:32

I voted yabu because you’re being ridiculous to even be giving this headspace.

If this is real it’s really very simple. She sent you a list, given you’re NC you ignore it and carry on as you please. If she doesn’t like it then she’s the one who’s going to cause a scene and look like a headcase.

I wouldn’t pander to this one bit. And if your MIL wants to pander to it I’d go NC with her as well.

And if your DH doesn’t back you up I’d leave.

Clearly the whole family is disfunctional. Your DC are better off not having a relationship with any of them, your MIL included.

StripeyDeckchair · 16/02/2024 22:33

Video yourself burning the list and send it to her.

No voice over
No message with the video

Woodyandbuzz1 · 16/02/2024 22:37

I'd go out of my way to visit all those places on all those days 😄

Mariposistaaa · 16/02/2024 22:55

She sounds absolutely unhinged. And she is in charge of a child…
with any luck that relationship won’t last.

Noshowlomo · 16/02/2024 23:00

Tired75613 · 16/02/2024 21:14

We've actually had a lovely few months of having no contact, and it's like a weight lifted not worrying about what will be said next. It's really annoying we happened to bump in to them and it's set it all off again as we either agree- which is clearly ridiculous, say no, and get the blame for being difficult, or ignore it and then get a load of abuse and probably also the blame for being difficult. When we were quite happy just getting on with our lives without them in it, as someone else has said, we're mid 30s, with kids and full time work, we haven't got the time or energy to spend on this kind of thing.

Just reply with what you’ve put on the end here.. “we're mid 30s, with kids and full time work, we haven't got the time or energy to spend on this kind of thing”

and add “you’re more than welcome to pretend not to know us all at when you see us, and we’ll do the same. Drama avoided ☺️”

Smiley face to annoy her

FlamingoQueen · 16/02/2024 23:08

I would reply with ‘sorry Harry and Meghan, we were here first!’

Noseybookworm · 16/02/2024 23:33

Tell them to piss off and live somewhere else if they don't want to risk bumping into you. She sounds like a complete headcase 🙄

NewName24 · 16/02/2024 23:53

I mean she is clearly bonkers, but you just need to laugh and ignore it.

I feel sorry for your dh that he has lost the closeness with his brother and for your dc missing out on what ought to be a nice relationship with cousins, and your PiL who must be treading on eggshells so as not to lose contact with their ds or dgc, but you can just completely ignore her batshittery and obviously go wherever you would normally go and obviously choose the best school option for you.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 16/02/2024 23:54

If she wants to avoid you, she can stay at home!

Lavenderandbrown · 16/02/2024 23:58

As a single parent I encountered my ex and his second (but now also ex😉) wife at
many many school and community events. I actually had to stand near her at a school function and pass out food. Just ignore them. Ignore means no eye contact, no talking about them to anyone else and not between the two of you. They don’t exist. Walk right past like they are a ghost. I used to purposefully set my eyes to a point just slightly left and then walk on by. This went on for years but it all went ok. I disliked them both she was jealous shitty and mean to my children and he (their dad) turned a blind eye or was never present. Now I’m teflon and I don’t let people bother me. There is some
real pathology going on there to send you a “your forbidden” list.

Cherrysoup · 17/02/2024 00:00

Delete her from your phone and pay no mind to her nonsense, she sounds unhinged! She doesn’t own the town and she moved to your area, so she can jack right off.

Brefugee · 17/02/2024 00:03

I don't like my SIL at all so i can't say this answer isn't coloured by that but: I would be at all those places at all those times. And i would completely ignore her and any histrionics she chooses to throw.

School: pick the school that you think is best for your child.

She is ridiculous and so is her husband for not telling her to stop being a twat

SnobblyBobbly · 17/02/2024 00:32

This cannot be true. Surely someone like that doesn't exist, but if it is and she does, tell her to fuck off.

SnobblyBobbly · 17/02/2024 00:36

Herdinggoats · 16/02/2024 20:56

I think you need to stop referring to her as the “new wife” after 6 years

Except she is his new wife.

puzzledout · 17/02/2024 03:05

SnobblyBobbly · 17/02/2024 00:32

This cannot be true. Surely someone like that doesn't exist, but if it is and she does, tell her to fuck off.

This

SomethingDifferentt · 17/02/2024 04:02

I would text back along the lines of 'Hi x. We won't be abiding by these demands as they're clearly ridiculous. We will continue to go where we please, when we please and will continue to consider X school as a possible option for our children. I trust this makes our position clear so please don't waste time in sending us any further similar demands'.

Copperoliverbear · 17/02/2024 04:41

I send her back at letter and say
Fuck off you over bearing, spoilt, horrible cunt, I will go where I like, when I like, grow up, go get some therapy you're batshit.
If you don't like it move, I'm going where I want.

XFiler · 17/02/2024 05:00

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 16/02/2024 20:24

Write 'no' on the list, and send it back.

This!!

Beautiful3 · 17/02/2024 07:28

Throw away the list and carry on as normal. If you see them, pretend that you don't know them.

NewName24 · 17/02/2024 19:47

SomethingDifferentt · 17/02/2024 04:02

I would text back along the lines of 'Hi x. We won't be abiding by these demands as they're clearly ridiculous. We will continue to go where we please, when we please and will continue to consider X school as a possible option for our children. I trust this makes our position clear so please don't waste time in sending us any further similar demands'.

I wouldn't do this.
It is acknowledging her as if this were a reasonable request.

Just ignore it as if it hadn't arrived.

Couldyounot · 17/02/2024 19:52

"Feel free to move away from the area if this is a problem for you xx"

BookArt · 17/02/2024 19:57

I feel like you're talking about my cousin! We have two kids each who are the same age. When we fell out when our eldest were both babies she tried to 'own' certain family member and joint friends, the primary school, etc. I cut all contact and refused to follow her rules. Our two eldest are now in the same class of 32 children and so far... it has been okay! Mainly because her husband has attended all parties and we haven't had any face to face contact.

Some people like control, and you have got to the point where you aren't willing to give that control to her. So send a polite message saying that you will continue to live your lives YOUR way. And hope they are happy and enjoying their new home.

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