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SIL drama

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Tired75613 · 16/02/2024 20:06

Long one, apologies.
My SIL (husbands brothers new wife) has always caused a bit of drama in the 6ish years we've known her, she 'says it as it is' and is very much her way or no way, will walk into your house and tell you everything she doesn't like, find fault in anything and cause an argument about absolutely anything. Myself and my husband tended to just ignore it, bite our tongues but eventually would end up taking the bait and falling out, not talk for a while. Once they had a child the cycle would end with us giving in first and apologising for whatever she deemed necessary so we could still see our DN and keep family happy. After several cycles of this happening and the last argument being so ridiculous we decided to give up with them a bit, not continue to play her game, and just leave them to it and be available for a relationship if they stop being silly about it.
(I won't go in to the arguments as it would be outing, but 100% we aren't in the wrong, affirmed by several other people, plus the fact she has fallen out with half the people she's met).
We've left it with saying that we are happy to be civil and see each other for family sake, we obviously miss our DN and our children miss her a lot, but its been made very clear we aren't allowed to see DN and SIL doesn't ever want to see us until we apologise and a long list of demands.

Sad but it is what it is, we can't live our lives playing along with her drama, especially as its become clear her and BIL don't care about our children who they used to see regularly.

Now the issue is just before the last fall out they moved to the town where we've lived for about 8 years. We happened to go to a kids place at the same time as them, SIL made a big scene about leaving because we were there. They now seem to have realised that raising children in the same town its quite likely for this to happen again, and have been sent a list of places/events that we aren't allowed to go on certain days in case they to, even the school they plan to send DN to to make sure we don't send our DC there! I personally don't care if I see her, I'm happy to be civil and say hello, or just ignore her, but I do now feel anxious about her causing issues for me

FIL and MIL clearly arent happy about the behaviour but doesn't get involved as to be honest it would backfire on them, and they are very close to DN. Any communication between DH and BIL seems to go through her so no chance of speaking sense to him, he also seems stuck in the middle.

AIBU to think the person with the issue should be the one to avoid the other? Any tips to manage this? If we do whatever she wants to 'make up' it will all just be repeated a few months down the line, we've been there before.

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PonyPatter44 · 16/02/2024 21:24

It's utter nonsense of course, but are your husband and BIL such utter wetwipes that they won't speak to each other?

Also, I am such a nob that I would make a point of going to all the places that SIL had tried to suggest I wasn't "allowed".

Zanatdy · 16/02/2024 21:24

She’s batshit and her demands of places you shouldn’t visit and school you can’t use is outrageous. She could go whistle as far as I’d be concerned and I wouldn’t entertain any of that bullshit

DifficultBloodyWoman · 16/02/2024 21:26

Since your FIL has seemingly expressed his opinion about this (‘suggested just avoiding the non-important places’), I’d pass back a message through him -

‘We were here first’!

Seriously, I’d just ignore that level of batshit. Unless I was feeling petty, in which case I’d make a point of showing up everywhere on the list.

Should I be concerned that I am becoming more petty as I get older?

Thementalloadisreal · 16/02/2024 21:30

Petty response - respond with your own list, but list every single supermarket and restaurant, since you lived there first

Honestly just ignore and ignore more. She clearly has nothing better to do but presumably you do. Make a point of giving the note back to PIL and tell them you have no interest in it.

WhoaJayShettybambalam · 16/02/2024 21:32

How was the list communicated to you? A letter through the door? A text? Through in laws?

I would go down the batshit is as batshit does route.
I would write a letter and hand deliver it but wear a mask to make it more mysterious. In the letter suggest a duel at dawn under the clock tower. Be sure to waft your cape as you turn to leave.

CharmedCult · 16/02/2024 21:32

How did you actually receive this list?

Saymyname28 · 16/02/2024 21:33

"Hi SIL, We're going to continue going wherever we want, whenever we want and we won't be planning our children's schooling around you.
All the best to your family"

WhoaJayShettybambalam · 16/02/2024 21:34

I had another idea…

Become mayor of the town and tell them that they must leave.

eilaka · 16/02/2024 21:42

Sunnydays0101 · 16/02/2024 21:20

Get the list, rip it up and fling it in the bin and carry on with your life. If you meet them on occasion, so be it.

This

eilaka · 16/02/2024 21:42

Saymyname28 · 16/02/2024 21:33

"Hi SIL, We're going to continue going wherever we want, whenever we want and we won't be planning our children's schooling around you.
All the best to your family"

And this

Tired75613 · 16/02/2024 21:43

Love some of the responses! Would love to follow through with some of them!
My DH has tried talking with his brother, they used to be quite close and have always got on really well in between her dramas. When we have got sucked into arguments he has given it as good as she has, she's called us X, he's called her Y, but he has also apologised for anything he has said. I don't think the brother particularly likes it either, I can't see how it makes his life easier, but again I think he is a bit stuck. When DH has tried to message him etc the response sounds very much like it's come from her, phone calls don't get answered and clearly no chance of seeing him in person considering the drama of being in the same public place at the same time

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Tired75613 · 16/02/2024 21:44

Sorry missed some responses, the list was sent via SMS as we are blocked on social media and WhatsApp 😅

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notknowledgeable · 16/02/2024 21:46

block her, ignore her, dont read her list, get on with your life and dont waste any head space on her

Whatwouldnanado · 16/02/2024 21:50

How sad for your in-laws and their children involved. I would ignore the list, be civil when you meet and be the Better Person. What did you argue about?

Fetaa · 16/02/2024 21:56

Tell her you don’t have the energy for their demands and will get on with your usual commitments.

WiddlinDiddlin · 16/02/2024 21:59

I would text back 'No'.

And continue to live your life the way you want, send your kids to the schools you prefer, go to the places you want to go, when you want to go.

Fuck her and her shenanigans.

toastwithmarmalade · 16/02/2024 22:02

Delete it @Tired75613 and just live your lives. What a situation. I feel very bad for your DN as her Mum is likely to ensure she loses a lot of people over the years. Very sad really. Hopefully the parents don't split as I can't imagine your SIL putting her daughter's needs first to continue a relationship with her father/grandparents etc.

Codlingmoths · 16/02/2024 22:03

I’d send the list to my friends and I guarantee every social occasion booked in the next year would be at one of these places. Hopefully we ran into her every single time until she got the bloody message that it’s not her town.

TeenLifeMum · 16/02/2024 22:06

I’d just reply “hilarious - maybe just stay in your house if you want to avoid us”

Happiestathome · 16/02/2024 22:07

I would simply reply - We will not be entertaining this request and will continue to go wherever we choose to as a family. The nerve of some people is shocking!

Milkandnosugarplease · 16/02/2024 22:08

I agree with @WiddlinDiddlin

Text back no and then block her.

BlueGrey1 · 16/02/2024 22:08

Tell her that ye will not be abiding by her list as who is she to set the rules, ye also lived in the town first so why did they move there

Tell her that if you do bump into each other at these venues that ye will behave civilly and in a mature manner and ye would like her to do the same,

Is she incapable of behaving herself if ye bumped into each other…..if she can’t she really does sound a bit trashy!

HateItWhenABitchLetsHimselfSlide · 16/02/2024 22:10

I'd just send the list back with "You're absolutely batshit, DFOD" written over it.

sonjadog · 16/02/2024 22:16

That to me would become the list of places I was most definitely going to go.

Or if you are less contrary than me, delete, ignore and get on with your lives. Don't give anyone that kind of power over your life.

Lazypeopledrivemecrazy · 16/02/2024 22:29

Oh what a shame! I was hoping that the list had been hand written, and was going to suggest setting fire to it, and then returning the ashes in an envelope through her door. However, as she hasn't even had the good manners to do it properly, so that you can respond accordingly, I would just carry on as you have been, ie living your lives and going where you want to go, as and when you want to go there. You've said that since the last episode, it's been 'like a weight lifted not worrying about what will be said next', so there's your answer. It is a shame about her child missing out, but that's the mothers choice, not yours. Oh, and if you do bump into her, I wouldn't even acknowledge her, simply walk past her as you would a complete stranger.