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SIL drama

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Tired75613 · 16/02/2024 20:06

Long one, apologies.
My SIL (husbands brothers new wife) has always caused a bit of drama in the 6ish years we've known her, she 'says it as it is' and is very much her way or no way, will walk into your house and tell you everything she doesn't like, find fault in anything and cause an argument about absolutely anything. Myself and my husband tended to just ignore it, bite our tongues but eventually would end up taking the bait and falling out, not talk for a while. Once they had a child the cycle would end with us giving in first and apologising for whatever she deemed necessary so we could still see our DN and keep family happy. After several cycles of this happening and the last argument being so ridiculous we decided to give up with them a bit, not continue to play her game, and just leave them to it and be available for a relationship if they stop being silly about it.
(I won't go in to the arguments as it would be outing, but 100% we aren't in the wrong, affirmed by several other people, plus the fact she has fallen out with half the people she's met).
We've left it with saying that we are happy to be civil and see each other for family sake, we obviously miss our DN and our children miss her a lot, but its been made very clear we aren't allowed to see DN and SIL doesn't ever want to see us until we apologise and a long list of demands.

Sad but it is what it is, we can't live our lives playing along with her drama, especially as its become clear her and BIL don't care about our children who they used to see regularly.

Now the issue is just before the last fall out they moved to the town where we've lived for about 8 years. We happened to go to a kids place at the same time as them, SIL made a big scene about leaving because we were there. They now seem to have realised that raising children in the same town its quite likely for this to happen again, and have been sent a list of places/events that we aren't allowed to go on certain days in case they to, even the school they plan to send DN to to make sure we don't send our DC there! I personally don't care if I see her, I'm happy to be civil and say hello, or just ignore her, but I do now feel anxious about her causing issues for me

FIL and MIL clearly arent happy about the behaviour but doesn't get involved as to be honest it would backfire on them, and they are very close to DN. Any communication between DH and BIL seems to go through her so no chance of speaking sense to him, he also seems stuck in the middle.

AIBU to think the person with the issue should be the one to avoid the other? Any tips to manage this? If we do whatever she wants to 'make up' it will all just be repeated a few months down the line, we've been there before.

OP posts:
ThinWomansBrain · 16/02/2024 20:37

Batshit
make sure you turn up at all the places on the list on the days she thinks she can dictate that you're not to.

If you did a word cloud of the responses, Batshit would be soooo big.

Tired75613 · 16/02/2024 20:39

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/02/2024 20:14

Yes, definitely ignore.

Curious though, why 'new wife'? She's been around years.

Poor wording, sorry, new in the sense that they only got married a few months ago, but not really relevant as they have been living together etc since expecting their now 2 year old.

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TheSnowyOwl · 16/02/2024 20:40

I’d just reply and say you are a grown up and will go where you like, when you like.

CharmedCult · 16/02/2024 20:42

Wow, I loathe my SIL who is a vile drama llama of the highest order, but I don't think even she's batshit enough to try and give us a list of places/dates/events we must not be at.

She has told family that she won't attend anything DH and I are at though, and has done a dramatic departure of a relatives house when we turned up, so now we make sure we accept every single invitation we possibly can, even if it means we only show our faces for 20 minutes, just to make sure she misses out Grin

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/02/2024 20:43

Thanks for clarifying @Tired75613

Aquamarine1029 · 16/02/2024 20:44

Don't lower yourself by responding to this fuckery. Any kind of response is giving this unhinged whacko power over you. From this minute forward, live your life as though she no longer exists.

Therealjudgejudy · 16/02/2024 20:45

She's a nut job. Ignore her.

Ariona · 16/02/2024 20:46

Ignore her. She is definitely nuts.

Tired75613 · 16/02/2024 20:46

Regarding in laws they don't get in the middle, only to the extent of letting us know if they have plans with SIL family so we don't turn up at the same time. Other than that have a good relationship with us and them, but I imagine it would go the same for them if they tried to help our case, and wouldn't want them to risk their relationship with DN.
Annoyingly they actually moved to a neighbourhood we had hoped to live in the future, but isn't that far from us. We have older children but also a baby, so although there are a few schools to choose from it is a possibility, as I wouldn't factor her into the decision.
I was starting to doubt whether we should just give in for an easy life, FIL had suggested just avoiding the non-important places and I think DH is just so fed up of all of this he was leaning that way.

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Mummyratbag · 16/02/2024 20:52

Who has the energy for this batshittery? Honestly, just live your life and let her blow a fuse...she will just make herself look stupid.

GreyhpundGirl · 16/02/2024 20:53

I mean, the mature response would be to ignore it. I would find it very tough not to send it back with 'um, no. Eff off and eff off some more with bells on. See you around.

JanefromLondon1 · 16/02/2024 20:54

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Herdinggoats · 16/02/2024 20:56

I think you need to stop referring to her as the “new wife” after 6 years

notknowledgeable · 16/02/2024 20:57

Just ignore her and her crazy list - dont even read it -

RandomMess · 16/02/2024 21:00

Do not let them deter you from buying a house you want regardless of area. Just roll your eyes and live your life.

Honeyroar · 16/02/2024 21:00

Return it to sender.

MrsLeonFarrell · 16/02/2024 21:01

Tired75613 · 16/02/2024 20:46

Regarding in laws they don't get in the middle, only to the extent of letting us know if they have plans with SIL family so we don't turn up at the same time. Other than that have a good relationship with us and them, but I imagine it would go the same for them if they tried to help our case, and wouldn't want them to risk their relationship with DN.
Annoyingly they actually moved to a neighbourhood we had hoped to live in the future, but isn't that far from us. We have older children but also a baby, so although there are a few schools to choose from it is a possibility, as I wouldn't factor her into the decision.
I was starting to doubt whether we should just give in for an easy life, FIL had suggested just avoiding the non-important places and I think DH is just so fed up of all of this he was leaning that way.

Giving in will just give her more power and everything will get worse. I'd bin the list and carry on with my life, live where you want to, go where you want to etc

If she starts making a fuss in public just stay calm and ignore her, I suspect other people will soon work out who the real problem is!

Tilleuil · 16/02/2024 21:05

Just carry on as if you never got the list.
Your sil is not queen of the town.
Strange she doesn’t want to see you but you’re obviously living rent free in her head!

CharlotteUnaNatalieThompson · 16/02/2024 21:11

coldcallerbaiter · 16/02/2024 20:26

Wait, they sent you an actual list?
I would go to every place on the list and grin at her.

Edited

I would also do this. Which probably makes me a twat but like fuck would I avoid places in a place I'd lived for years before she arrived because she demanded it

Tired75613 · 16/02/2024 21:14

We've actually had a lovely few months of having no contact, and it's like a weight lifted not worrying about what will be said next. It's really annoying we happened to bump in to them and it's set it all off again as we either agree- which is clearly ridiculous, say no, and get the blame for being difficult, or ignore it and then get a load of abuse and probably also the blame for being difficult. When we were quite happy just getting on with our lives without them in it, as someone else has said, we're mid 30s, with kids and full time work, we haven't got the time or energy to spend on this kind of thing.

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HuntingtonHaven18 · 16/02/2024 21:17

CharmedCult · 16/02/2024 20:42

Wow, I loathe my SIL who is a vile drama llama of the highest order, but I don't think even she's batshit enough to try and give us a list of places/dates/events we must not be at.

She has told family that she won't attend anything DH and I are at though, and has done a dramatic departure of a relatives house when we turned up, so now we make sure we accept every single invitation we possibly can, even if it means we only show our faces for 20 minutes, just to make sure she misses out Grin

Edited

I love this! This happened to us at Christmas time. DH called my brother’s wife out over some behaviour towards my DM. She hit the roof and stormed out dragging my weak brother and their children. She has said she will never attend anything involving DH again.

i hate confrontation but have never felt so relieved. We have bit our tongues for years and it feels so much better to not have to any more.

I love the responses given.

best of luck OP

JustAGirlScotland · 16/02/2024 21:20

I’d put a huge amount of effort into openly disobeying her “demands” simply to prove the point that I won’t be controlled by some batshit SIL.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 16/02/2024 21:20

Tired75613 · 16/02/2024 21:14

We've actually had a lovely few months of having no contact, and it's like a weight lifted not worrying about what will be said next. It's really annoying we happened to bump in to them and it's set it all off again as we either agree- which is clearly ridiculous, say no, and get the blame for being difficult, or ignore it and then get a load of abuse and probably also the blame for being difficult. When we were quite happy just getting on with our lives without them in it, as someone else has said, we're mid 30s, with kids and full time work, we haven't got the time or energy to spend on this kind of thing.

Just keep getting on with your life

Giving in now will just make it twice as hard to say no to the next ridiculous demand

Sunnydays0101 · 16/02/2024 21:20

Get the list, rip it up and fling it in the bin and carry on with your life. If you meet them on occasion, so be it.

AnnaMagnani · 16/02/2024 21:24

I think I'd be compelled to spend a week visiting every single place on the list in the forbidden hours just to piss her off.

Going to every single family event is utter genius.