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How do you feel about women that's don't wear Make-up ?

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flutterby1 · 16/02/2024 11:34

Just wondering what your true JUDGY thoughts are? I don't wear makeup often I'm in mid forties. How am I perceived? Lazy? Frumpy? Not caring? Boring? Can't be bothered to make an effort for others ? Or confident ? Perceived as being ' pretty enough' ?

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XenoBitch · 17/02/2024 21:31

wizzywig · 17/02/2024 21:18

I wonder why they wouldn't like to look the best version of themselves. I also feel ill when I see people on flip flops that have cracked heels

The best version of myself is the one I am happiest as, and I am happiest with no make-up. It is a sensory nightmare for me. I used to wear a bit in my late 20s when I went out, and I hated the feeling of it, and was too pre-occupied with checking it to ever fully relax.

StoneTheCrone · 17/02/2024 21:32

Honestly, it never crosses my mind.

Make-up isn't compulsory. Its a bit like hair dye, some women have it and some dont.

NonPlayerCharacter · 17/02/2024 21:34

BigButtons · 17/02/2024 20:30

My point is that we do all of it because other people see us. If no one were to see us we wouldn’t bother.

Yes, but if you were the last person on earth or the only one with Internet access, you wouldn't be posting here either. The fact that humans don't exist in hermetically sealed pods doesn't mean we don't dress or develop aesthetics to please ourselves. All the women who like makeup have made it clear they will keep wearing it even though various posters have said they don't like it and judge it negatively.

We interact with other humans and we choose how we want to show ourselves. That's not the same thing at all as developing an aesthetic for them.

IamMoodyBlue · 17/02/2024 21:35

I never, ever use any make ip. I really don’t mind what anyone else thinks about my appearance.
We don't control other people's thoughts- we sometimes have enough trouble controling our own!
So, use as much make up as you feel you want to or none at all. It should be personal choice.
Just think, is this my decision or am I being pressured into it by peer pressure, advertising, other people's expectations?

Do whats right for you.

Personally I like not having to put the stuff on & take it off, and I like having the money to spend on something I like, instead - books!
But that's just what suits me.

retirementrocks · 17/02/2024 21:43

At 67, less is more. Bit of help with thinner brows and a good mascara to define eyes but I have hardly ever done the base, powder, blusher routine.
Whatever really. Think the pandemic and working from home got a lot of women off make up and they thought wow...look cool without it.

wpshark · 17/02/2024 21:45

NonPlayerCharacter · 17/02/2024 18:41

It tells you how men in general feel about makeup.

Oh, we know what they say. And we know they're talking shite. They don't know what most makeup looks like. They don't know the difference between no makeup and natural makeup. And if we all did actually stop wearing makeup, they'd run screaming. And nobody's decision about whether or not to wear it should be dictated by what men think anyway.

Well that tells you how little you think of men and how obsessed you are with hiding your face. Talk to REAL men and not these modern nancy, woket boys

Anneofwarwick · 17/02/2024 21:49

Overloadimplode · 17/02/2024 20:31

I don't think anything. I am one. I feel funny about make up. Even the name. Why should women have to wear paint on their faces to be seen? It makes no sense, looks a bit silly, and I can't understand it. The expense, time, effort.

I don't 'have' to wear make up to be seen. I wear it because i like it, because I have self respect and standards. All of you 'oh I don't wear it' because a) my husband says I look better without it - no you don't. Or b) I'm far too busy doing marvellous things..yeah right, you must be just so perfect a cats lick will suffice. Anyone who wears make up looks better, literally anyone... Recognising that you need a little colour, or cover, or need a boost isn't vanity you know.

moderndilemma · 17/02/2024 21:51

I'm 64. I've always been a very light/occasional make up person. Mostly when I go out 'made up' others would think I had no make up on, but it makes me feel like I've made an effort.

The lovely woman who helps with my cleaning arrives at 8.30am on a Wedneday morning in full make up, with huge eyelashes. I assume it makes her feel good to do that.

Each to their own.

Wellretired · 17/02/2024 22:01

I'm 71 now and have never worn make up. Why should I? Men don't. I look líke I look.

NonPlayerCharacter · 17/02/2024 22:02

wpshark · 17/02/2024 21:45

Well that tells you how little you think of men and how obsessed you are with hiding your face. Talk to REAL men and not these modern nancy, woket boys

No, it just tells us that you define and value women by how they choose to style themselves and find them wanting when they don't prioritise your opinion as a man (which you clearly are) over what they actually like.

Mansplaining men to me, now I've seen it all. You wouldn't know a real man if he jammed a mascara wand up your nose.

XenoBitch · 17/02/2024 22:03

Anneofwarwick · 17/02/2024 21:49

I don't 'have' to wear make up to be seen. I wear it because i like it, because I have self respect and standards. All of you 'oh I don't wear it' because a) my husband says I look better without it - no you don't. Or b) I'm far too busy doing marvellous things..yeah right, you must be just so perfect a cats lick will suffice. Anyone who wears make up looks better, literally anyone... Recognising that you need a little colour, or cover, or need a boost isn't vanity you know.

So women (men are not held to the same standards) who do not wear make-up lack self respect and standards?

tutttutt · 17/02/2024 22:04

Wellretired · 17/02/2024 22:01

I'm 71 now and have never worn make up. Why should I? Men don't. I look líke I look.

'Men don't' is a weird reason. Wear it don't wear it. Whatever. But 'men don't' is a weird reason.

Men don't wear bras or have long highlighted hair in the whole other. Many women choose to.

Mummadeze · 17/02/2024 22:06

If someone who usually wears it, then doesn’t I might notice but not think anything positive or negative. In general it isn’t something I think about.

Comedycook · 17/02/2024 22:07

Personally I think most men are talking nonsense when they say the prefer a woman to wear no make up. They may not like a very heavy make up look but I can assure you most think women look better with make up whether they realise they're wearing it or not . I remember my first date with dh...he commented on how he liked that I wasn't wearing much make up. I actually had a full face on... foundation, concealer, blush, eyeliner, mascara, lipstick! Boy did he have a shock when he saw me with literally no make up 😂

user1476277375 · 17/02/2024 22:10

Confident and empowered

NonPlayerCharacter · 17/02/2024 22:13

Comedycook · 17/02/2024 22:07

Personally I think most men are talking nonsense when they say the prefer a woman to wear no make up. They may not like a very heavy make up look but I can assure you most think women look better with make up whether they realise they're wearing it or not . I remember my first date with dh...he commented on how he liked that I wasn't wearing much make up. I actually had a full face on... foundation, concealer, blush, eyeliner, mascara, lipstick! Boy did he have a shock when he saw me with literally no make up 😂

Yep. They don't know what no makeup looks like. They'd run screaming if we did all stop wearing it (not that that's a reason to wear it, just an indication that they really don't know what they're talking about).

I can believe a lot of them don't like a heavy look, but even then I think it's largely because they're generally so oblivious about it that they're terrified of being "tricked", hence the "makeup is lying" crowd. I actually think that's why they get so angry about it, as seen upthread (it's also anger that women aren't styling themselves based on what a man says he prefers).

To which I say...

How do you feel about women that's don't wear Make-up ?
ganglion · 17/02/2024 22:13

Interesting! As a make up wearer of 20+ years, I stopped wearing it a couple of years ago after realising that I was more comfortable not wearing a mask and my natural face just looked better. I admire anyone who doesn't feel the need to wear make up, but don't look down on those who do, as we are sold the lie that we need to cover our faces to be accepted.

wpshark · 17/02/2024 22:13

NonPlayerCharacter · 17/02/2024 22:02

No, it just tells us that you define and value women by how they choose to style themselves and find them wanting when they don't prioritise your opinion as a man (which you clearly are) over what they actually like.

Mansplaining men to me, now I've seen it all. You wouldn't know a real man if he jammed a mascara wand up your nose.

Well, madame, you are so clearly up your own mascarared eyes and fake face that you have lost touch with reality. Drop that mask"" Why do you hide behind that shit. Yoiu are beautiful and perfect dont use that gunk

FluffyFanny · 17/02/2024 22:15

As usual, equality seems to equate to women behaving more like men.

NonPlayerCharacter · 17/02/2024 22:16

wpshark · 17/02/2024 22:13

Well, madame, you are so clearly up your own mascarared eyes and fake face that you have lost touch with reality. Drop that mask"" Why do you hide behind that shit. Yoiu are beautiful and perfect dont use that gunk

I don't think I'm the one losing touch with anything here. I suggest you switch to the decaf now. I'll wear what I like and no real man will ever be threatened or enraged by that.

Anyway, just yesterday there was someone with your level of reasoning and articulation who kept telling me I was absolutely hideous. You can't both be right.

greendaisie · 17/02/2024 22:19

They don't know what no makeup looks like. They'd run screaming if we did all stop wearing it

Well that's another reason for me not to wear it. I'd like my partner to know and love how I look naturally.

wpshark · 17/02/2024 22:22

NonPlayerCharacter · 17/02/2024 22:16

I don't think I'm the one losing touch with anything here. I suggest you switch to the decaf now. I'll wear what I like and no real man will ever be threatened or enraged by that.

Anyway, just yesterday there was someone with your level of reasoning and articulation who kept telling me I was absolutely hideous. You can't both be right.

You cant both be right? Do you know how stupid you just made your argument sound? I say again......a woman is beautiful as is. No amaount of gunk is going to hide imperfections that we all have . You obviously have a serious issue with what you present to th eoutside world

NonPlayerCharacter · 17/02/2024 22:23

greendaisie · 17/02/2024 22:19

They don't know what no makeup looks like. They'd run screaming if we did all stop wearing it

Well that's another reason for me not to wear it. I'd like my partner to know and love how I look naturally.

Wear it or don't wear it, entirely up to you. It is, however, possible to wear it sometimes or even daily and still somehow have your partner know and love what you look like without it...it really doesn't have to be all or nothing 24/7 forever. But I think you know that.

KTMeetsTheRsUptown · 17/02/2024 22:23

As a non makeup person I only notice if someone has a bit too much on 😊. I admit that I hate my red chin but wouldn't know where to start make-up wise to cover it up. I've tried those Green Cover-ups and it just looks awful 😖 . I really hate the obsession with thick drawn on eyebrows theses days... in the 70s we had very thin eyebrows.

NonPlayerCharacter · 17/02/2024 22:29

wpshark · 17/02/2024 22:22

You cant both be right? Do you know how stupid you just made your argument sound? I say again......a woman is beautiful as is. No amaount of gunk is going to hide imperfections that we all have . You obviously have a serious issue with what you present to th eoutside world

You cant both be right? Do you know how stupid you just made your argument sound?

Well I know the level I'm arguing with, so I suppose if I carry on much longer then that might say something about me. But yes, yesterday someone who could think and reason as well as you can spent several posts telling me how repulsive I am. Today, you're telling me I'm gorgeous. You can't both be right. That's just a fact.

I'm afraid that women who like makeup will continue to wear it even in the face of angry men on the Internet who implore them with the power of Jon whatever his name was. It isn't about you and they aren't doing it for you. I know, life is full of terrible injustice. The sooner you make peace with that, though, the sooner you can channel your anger into something constructive.

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