Stop saying 'myself and...'

[Ridiculous24]

I'm sorry, I'm grumpy.
It's everywhere.
The top level at work are now using it. They have English degrees.

Yanbu although I have a degree in English and barely know any grammar.

Same here, but this is everywhere now, it's like it's spreading and people have forgotten what they used to say.

They also say things like "is that acceptable to yourself"?

Someone from BT said that to me last week, so I gave her a lesson in grammar.

Reminds me of this -

It's infiltrated so much. For some reason it can sound more formal/sophisticated because people use it incorrectly in professional settings and every time I'm tempted to use it I end up googling whether it's appropriate, even though I know the grammar rule. 90%+ of the time I was tempted to use it incorrectly, I blame SM.

I like the rule of thumb about 'removing the third person from the sentence':

DH and myself went to the cinema = Myself went to the cinema makes no sense
DH and I went to the cinema = I went to the cinema

I agree it's awful - and everywhere!

While we're at it, can we also kill "Fred and I" when it should be "and me"? Sometimes we even get "Fred and I's thing", which is piling insanity upon abomination!

It is a funny one with "Myself" as the subject of the sentence. I suppose it's not really grammatically correct, but it doesn't bother me all that much. It just sounds a bit more formal I suppose?

Language changes all the time, it's fluid like water, not solid. If enough people use a word in a certain way for long enough then it becomes correct. The rules are in constant flux and they are not always regular.

I think it's OK.

"Thank you for sending me those documents"

vs

"Thank you for sending myself those documents"

Seriously, it's obvious which one is correct.

This depends where it is in the sentence.

"Fred and I went to the shops" is grammatically correct.
"Fred and me went to the shops" is not.

"Jen went to the shops with Fred and me/ myself" is grammatically correct.
"Jen went to the shops with Fred and I" is not.

Take Fred out of the equation and you can easily see why:

"I went to the shops" vs "me went to the shops"
"Jen went to the shops with me"/ "Jen went to the shops with I"

You’re right - remove their degree awards, sack them and if all else fails cut their tongues out. It’s time this shit ended. Let’s have a revolution!

Yes it is obvious in your example, but that isn't quite the way in which OP is describing its use.

Your example is in the passive voice, where it's obviously incorrect. OP is describing it used as the subject in the active voice, i.e.

"Myself and Judy are in the office today"
(rather than "Judy and I").

It's not technically correct but I don't have a problem with it.

A recent one which grates on me is when someone says ' imma ' rather than I'm.
For example ' imma gonna try that ' rather than ' I'm going to try that '.
I feel like shaking them until their head wobbles off while shouting ' imma? What's imma? It's I'm, I'M for god's sake '

@iceskater1

-This depends where it is in the sentence.

"Fred and I went to the shops" is grammatically correct.
"Fred and me went to the shops" is not.

... etc, at some length.

Did you not think that might be why I said "Fred and I" when it should be "and me"?

Obviously, if Fred and I are the subjects of the sentence, it should not be "and me".

This gives me the rage.

Photos on social media FFS. “Here is Dave and I on a camel back”

Not to get bogged down into linguistics/ sidetracked too much from the OP, but there are two interpretations of your sentence in bold, one of which warranted an explanation.

I was going to agree…

… then you used “it’s like” instead of “it’s as if” in a subsequent comment.
But then I thought that I must be feeling grumpy, too!😁

Hi @Garlickit can you expand the sentence on your example please, and maybe give two or three more examples, as I don't think that I understand exactly what you mean? I will just give a few examples of when I think the different pronouns should be used:

"Oh yes, Fred and I went swimming this morning in that newly opened swimming pool in 'town's name', it was great not having to go all the way to 'name of nearest city', just to have a swim".

"Fred and I are going to the 'big' Sainsbury's tomorrow, you know, the one near Jo's new house? If you would like any shopping, can you give Fred or me a shopping list please?"

"Unfortunately, I never find any of Fred's jokes funny, and you know how much he loves telling jokes, but he told me one last night that actually had me peeing myself with laughter!"

I apologise for any other grammatical mistakes I* *have made here. I only reached 'O' level - grade 5 - standard in both English language, and English literature, and that was a very long time ago... 🤭

I'm sorry @Garlickit, you didn't have all of those responses when I started my reply! 💐

It doesn’t sound more formal and sophisticated. It sounds ignorant and pretentious

then you used “it’s like” instead of “it’s as if” in a subsequent comment.
But then I thought that I must be feeling grumpy, too!😁

😁true! I also can't figure out the linguistic arguments on this thread 😁.

Grrr, the use of 'like' instead of 'such as'.
The soup was full of vegatables like carrot and swede. Which veggies are like carrots and swedes?
whereas the soup was full of vegetables such as carrot and swede, illustrates the point

BBC News is at it this morning. It would (should!) have been read by a BBC sub editor before going live.

Wow. That’s pretty poor.

I get irrationally angry when I read or hear "super" instead of "very".

E.g. I'm super busy.

Aaarrrggghhhh