XL Bullies to be destroyed now!

[Babycatsarenice]

Sick of these monsters still being on our streets (I never see them muzzled as their irresponsible owners don't comply) and worse still knowing that they are still in homes with children.

AIBU that they should be put to sleep NOW

Fortunately, dog attacks are so rare, I'll only really need to worry about it after a bit of space junk has landed on me, and I have won the lottery. I've more chance of both of the latter happening before a dog attack.

If only that were true.
14,000 dog attacks reported to the Police in the 12 months to June 2023, 16 people killed.

People don't need to have a dog that strong men cannot control, that even the police have no option but to shoot dead.

I love my dog to bits but whilst she could bite etc most people could either fight her off or she could be pulled away by someone else.

*But euthanasia should be HUMANE and left to the professionals!

Stabbing does not fall into that category!*

People are discussing what to do in an actual attack though. If someone is being mauled, the priory is to save them, not to be humane.

It is true. Even with the statistics you quote, with nearly 70 million people in this country, the chance of being involved in a dog attack is so remote. Especially when you remove that the majority were people who either own the dog, or lived in the same house / family as the dog.

Don't get me wrong, I don't see the need for the breed either, and if I were trying to create a companion dog as is allegedly the origin of the XLB, I probably would not start with a pitbull in the mix.

I also agree that 16 deaths is 16 too many, however it is still a hugely small number, and a percentage of them also fall into the category of the owner / family member.

As I said in the thread earlier, more wives are murdered by their husbands but I don't see any mass hysteria about that, or a thread started about it every time it happens. We need to get some perspective.

16 deaths is 16 too many but it is still an infintismally small number in the grand scheme and when you take out those who were killed by dogs known to them and not by strange dogs while out in public which is what is being discussed on this thread that number shrinks dramatically.

More people are killed by cattle each year than by strange dogs.

The cattle stat may well be true but we (arguably) need farms and livestock, we don't need large dangerous dogs.

the recent 'bully killings seem to be anyone but the owner & children killed have no say in what animal is in the house.

@HappiestSleeping Yes deaths of women by men is shocking and one we shouldn't tolerate, however, we cannot PTS sleep aggressive men.

The point here is we have numerous breeds and sizes of dog that can cater for all (normal) tastes.

We don't need XLs.

The defenders of these dogs are bit like the NRA in america, its not the Gun, its the person "Don't take away our right to have an AR15" sort of thing.

No you don't need a military grade rifle, if you want to be like your founding fathers, get a musket.

We are in violent agreement. We don't need XLBs, but we still need perspective about the likelihood of an attack.

We don't need a lot of things that are dangerous, but we still have them. Let's take the machetes that a previous poster was advocating be carried. Perhaps we could apply the same diligence to knife crime as opposed to promoting carrying weapons? It would save many more lives. Nobody needs to carry a knife.

Perhaps we could apply the same diligence to knife crime as opposed to promoting carrying weapons? It would save many more lives. Nobody needs to carry a knife.

This.

Also, how many threads do we see every month from posters asking if they are BU about a dog minding its own business? There was one not long ago where the poster was legitimately upset about a dog running by her as it recalled to its owner.

If we start encouraging people to use weapons against strange dogs who upset them how many innocent dogs will be harmed in the crossfire? And how many knife-wielding women will have their weapons forcibly taken from them and used against them?

I can guarantee if someone threatened my dog with a knife it would not be my dog they needed to worry about.

Well, its not this at all, carrying a knife in public is illegal.

Knives in general are very useful.

You are both going into the realms of whataboutery, so i'll leave you too it, thankfully most people in the UK side with the XL bully ban and would like to go further.

You are also going into "whataboutery" in taking the stance that something so unlikely is actually likely.

So it looks like a lot of us are behind a more stringent ban (frankly we can all see that the current ban has done bugger all)
I encourage you all to email your mp on this as I have done today

So you admit you cannot control your dog?

A decent responsible owner wouldn't be risking their dog being shot by police or a parent defending their child.

So it would be better in your view that a human is savagely maimed/ has their face ripped off/ is killed while police arrive so that the vicious dog can be "humanely put to sleep", than for the vicious dog to be killed to end the attack and the human being saved?

Seriously skewed moral compass.

Seriously skewed moral compass
Dog people are aligned with dogs, they value dogs above humans.

Not all of us. It's just that most sensible people aren't getting bent out of shape about something that is very unlikely to happen. That does not in any way detract from the seriousness when it does.

I would rather focus my energy lobbying my MP to put in place controls over the breeders, and how dogs are sold, which would be far more effective.

The type of owner of an XLB who is causing these issues is so unlikely to adhere to the law that the current legislation It's laughable. It would be much better to prevent them having access in the first place. This can only be achieved by controlling breeding and outlets.

That’s irrelevant to the comment.
The comment related to carrying weapons, we are not allowed to do so in the uk.
Despite the fact we have been in danger of attack by humans since time began we are still not allowed to carry weapons to defend ourselves.

Agree they should be destroyed.
I don't disagree there are bad owners , but even with a good owner , any dog can attack at any time.

@HappiestSleeping and @Frequency quite right.

No one should be carrying or encouraging others to carry weapons ….

Nowhere in my post did I state that! I just think it's disgusting that some posters are discussing ways to maim/kill an animal!

Posters were discussing ways to defend themselves against a large powerful predator trying to kill or maim them!
But no, dog people always have to try and make the dog the victim and the center of everything 🙄

And by the same token no one should have a pet which functions as a weapon.

How have I made the dog into a victim?

The dog is the thing which kills and maims humans, you have complained that people are looking for ways to defend themselves against it. Thereby positioning the dog as the victim and the human as the attacker.
In fact the dog is the thing which attacks and the human is the victim.

I saw one this morning wearing a muzzle, walking with a lady pushing a baby in a pram. Very worrying

Some people seemed full of glee talking about ways to kill an animal - various weapons/methods have been discussed.