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Landlord being an arse

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landlordstress · 10/02/2024 16:48

Very long story as short as possible:

We have lived in our current home (privately rented) since April 2020. House is relatively old (1920s build, Victorian style), so lots of things have started to go wrong over the past few years. Landlord is really disinterested in any repairs that have arisen. We've had issues with the boiler (which eventually required full replacement), leaks from the bathroom into the kitchen, tiles randomly falling off in the bathroom and shattering, heavy doors randomly falling off their hinges (almost landing on my toddler and instead landed on my arm to prevent this). All repairs we've needed have generally required repeated requests to the landlord before any action has been taken. The boiler issue for example went on for around 4-5 months, breaking pretty much fortnightly in that time, before landlord eventually agreed to replace it and that was over the winter months too with a baby, so totally nightmare.

The worst problem however, has been a leak in the back porch area (which is an extension on the house), which we first brought to the landlord's attention in October 2020. I know this because I was pregnant with my now almost 3 year old at the time and was concerned about slipping on large pools of water that came through the roof into the house near the back door every time it rained. Landlord did nothing. He replied to requests to fix it with comments such as "it's only a problem when the rain is coming from a particular direction" and so on... promised to get certain treatments to try and address it, never did, etc.. just fobbing us off essentially for years.

It came to a head last year when I decided enough was enough and I was sick of almost slipping in large puddles of rain water every time it rained heavily. At this point it had gone for so long the plaster work was falling off in chunks as the rain came through into the back porch area. We were constantly sending photos and videos of this to the landlord, again, nothing done to repair. So I contacted the council in desperation. They were horrified on inspection and got in touch with him, giving him deadlines and timeframes to fix it etc.

We now have a timeframe for something being done, he's apparently told the council workmen are coming round on a date in a few weeks time to put up a scaffold. However today on the phone to my partner he stated that he didn't like that we "updated" the council every time there was an issue and it felt like "tit for tat". My partner is quite a passive person and didn't challenge this but I am FUMING at this comment.

How dare he suggest we are in a "tit for tat" game playing situation here? He has forced our hand by doing nothing about the problem for 3.5 years, and now we have someone advocating for us and giving him deadlines and consequences for not fixing the issue, he has the audacity to accuse us of playing a "tit for tat" game?!

For context this is not a cheap property, we pay £900 a month to live here. And the place isn't even watertight and hasn't been for 3.5 years. The roof where the leak is at the point of literally crumbling away. I worry the whole thing is going to collapse on my toddler's head. Since our tenancy began in April 2020 we have paid this man around 41k in rent. What the hell has he done with our money and why can't he use some of that to fix the bloody state of the place? Instead of calling my partner to imply we are doing something wrong by involving the council? I am SO angry.

AIBU to have involved the council for help?
AIBU to be fuming and to expect a watertight property for £900 a month?!!

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TheSnowyOwl · 11/02/2024 19:00

Also, the absolute irony of being called "woefully naive". Our LL has rented a property to us for the past few years that has required a licence that wasn't in place. As a result we could have a case for suing him for 12 months rent back, to the tune of almost 11k.

And I'm the woefully naive one? 😂

Bless you. Come back in a year’s time and we can carry on the conversation then.

landlordstress · 11/02/2024 19:02

And the absolute irony of it all, is that if he'd just repaired the god damn leak one of the first 20 or so times of asking over preceding years, we'd never have involved the council, who never would have discovered his lack of licence, and therefore wouldn't have brought that to our attention! He's properly screwed HIMSELF over here. No one else to blame 🤷‍♀️

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landlordstress · 11/02/2024 19:03

@TheSnowyOwl
Oh get a grip of yourself. How fucking patronising.

If you're my cunt of a LL or his knobhead wife - HELLO!!! See you at the tribunal for our rent back 👍🏻😀

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LakieLady · 11/02/2024 19:05

Fallenangelofthenorth · 11/02/2024 14:46

Do you think homeowners get a gas safety check every 12 months?

I do.

I have my boiler serviced every year without fail, because the (very long) guarantee is invalid if I don't. My plumber does a full safety check while he's here. He doesn't issue a certificate, because as an owner occupier I don't need one, but the check he does is exactly the same as if I wanted a ceertificate.

mamacorn1 · 11/02/2024 19:06

I would move . I don’t think you are wrong to contact the council, but this is not going to get any better and you are living in a leaky house. You might have to change your selection process slightly when looking for an alternative property, but honestly I’d just move.

landlordstress · 11/02/2024 19:09

@mamacorn1 yeah we are on it in the background!

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UneFoisAuChalet · 11/02/2024 19:11

Genuine question OP - you say that from 2020 when you moved in, he began fobbing you off, why did you stay? I’m assuming you had to renew the tenancy every year, so you and your partner would have had the ‘do we stay another year’ conversation and as he’s such a shit landlord why didn’t you move in ‘21, ‘22, ‘23?

I completely sympathise with you and I’ve been in similar situations. But if I didn’t leave as soon as the lease was up, it was because I was willing to put up with the situation because it suited me - ie cheap rent, cba moving, close to school/work etc.

This guy is taking your hard earned cash, creating an incredibly stressful home life and putting you and you family at risk whilst you live in his shitty house. He hasn’t gotten away with it, you’ve reported him, the council will now have their eyes on him, but just move asap. You’ll leave him without a paying tenant and having to pay out £££ to get the house up to scratch.

Chances that you’ll get back 12 months of rent are slim. He’ll fight you and I’m guessing he has the money to do so. It just be more stress and anger for you.

I’d be wanting to rid the man from my life and getting out of his dump.

landlordstress · 11/02/2024 19:18

@UneFoisAuChalet

I didn't really want to go into all the ins and outs as it's highly personal. But since I've been asked a few times, here's why.

We didn't move in 2020 when we first noticed the problem because I was pregnant and very unwell throughout my pregnancy, in and out of hospitalisation etc for the whole 9 months. I wouldn't have managed a house move. After birth of our baby I was unwell with severe PND so not in the correct frame of mind for moving house, I was receiving treatment for that for the best part of a year and needed to focus on getting well. 6 months after that, my partner was hospitalised after a serious health scare, so again we put the house hunting on hold. Meanwhile, we held out for him to do something, giving the benefit of the doubt time and time again. We realised in early 2023 this wasn't going to happen and so we involved the council. Meanwhile, in the past 12 months I've moved jobs to a different area of the city, meaning we are now focusing our search in a different area. So we've been looking consistently for the past 12 or so months for something within budget that meets our needs in the correct location - not easy. We continue looking weekly though. We are reassured meanwhile that the council are forcing his hand in the background to make the property fit to live in whilst we remain here.

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caringcarer · 11/02/2024 19:46

I thought you said you want to live 8 miles away and you've been looking for over a year? There absolutely must have been something better than what you currently have in over a year of looking. You also contradict yourself somewhat by staying in a different post you don't want to leave now and not for another year? Which is it, you want to move now or stay where you are for another year? You sound angry which I can understand because you have been treated so badly. Living there probably contributed to your pnd as you knew it was not a good environment for your DC. In your situation I'd be moving out asap whether LL stopped the leaks or not because it's causing you and your family stress. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this LL simply listed the property to sell as a doer upper.

landlordstress · 11/02/2024 20:14

@caringcarer where have I said I want to remain here for another year??

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landlordstress · 11/02/2024 20:17

Please don't assume about the cause of my PND - you know nothing about that and it's highly personal and offensive of you to make assumptions about it. It's also got NOTHING to do with a shoddy landlord who breaks the law.

And yes damn right I'm fucking angry. I'm FUMING. This man has happily taken in the region of £41,000 of mine and my partner's hard earned cash over the past 4 years for a substandard property with unacceptable living conditions. You're a LL yourself - you say you're a good one. Surely you see how idiots like my LL give LLs in general a bad rep? YOU should be angry too!

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UneFoisAuChalet · 11/02/2024 21:25

landlordstress · 11/02/2024 19:18

@UneFoisAuChalet

I didn't really want to go into all the ins and outs as it's highly personal. But since I've been asked a few times, here's why.

We didn't move in 2020 when we first noticed the problem because I was pregnant and very unwell throughout my pregnancy, in and out of hospitalisation etc for the whole 9 months. I wouldn't have managed a house move. After birth of our baby I was unwell with severe PND so not in the correct frame of mind for moving house, I was receiving treatment for that for the best part of a year and needed to focus on getting well. 6 months after that, my partner was hospitalised after a serious health scare, so again we put the house hunting on hold. Meanwhile, we held out for him to do something, giving the benefit of the doubt time and time again. We realised in early 2023 this wasn't going to happen and so we involved the council. Meanwhile, in the past 12 months I've moved jobs to a different area of the city, meaning we are now focusing our search in a different area. So we've been looking consistently for the past 12 or so months for something within budget that meets our needs in the correct location - not easy. We continue looking weekly though. We are reassured meanwhile that the council are forcing his hand in the background to make the property fit to live in whilst we remain here.

I honestly wasn’t trying to get personal info but thank you for replying.

Renting is shit and I’m from a country where it’s severely regulated - we joke it’s under a socialist/communism regime but it protects people rigorously against eviction and increases. And more importantly, unsuitable premises. I wish the U.K. would adopt this model as being a private landlord is not considered a money making scheme.

Just get the hell outta there chick. From reading your posts I can feel your tension and don’t let that man take away from your happiness. I’m sure there was a recent thread about Karma, but don’t worry, his will come.

MikeRafone · 12/02/2024 08:38

Do you think homeowners get a gas safety check every 12 months?

The family 4 houses down went to sleep and never woke up

yes I get a boiler serve and certificate every year, it'd prey on my mind otherwise. It is why there are laws inplace to make landlords keep tenants safe

Fallenangelofthenorth · 12/02/2024 08:43

@MikeRafone honestly, I'm not saying the gas checks are unnecessary - not for one second. My post was in response to another poster implying that OP wasn't keeping her children safe, which I thought was completely unnecessary and rather placing the blame in the wrong place.

sussexlady · 12/02/2024 11:46

MikeRafone · 12/02/2024 08:38

Do you think homeowners get a gas safety check every 12 months?

The family 4 houses down went to sleep and never woke up

yes I get a boiler serve and certificate every year, it'd prey on my mind otherwise. It is why there are laws inplace to make landlords keep tenants safe

This happened near where I live. A holiday cottage, 2 couples booked it for the weekend. When they didn't return home/work on the Monday they were eventually found dead. They literally went to sleep and never woke up

sussexlady · 12/02/2024 11:47

This happened near where I live. A holiday cottage, 2 couples booked it for the weekend. When they didn't return home/work on the Monday they were eventually found dead. They literally went to sleep and never woke up

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