Child first MMR vaccine at age 3.5 years old

[MimiDuncan]

Hi All,

did any of you had their child first MMR vaccine at age 3 or more?

if yes how it went? Were there many side effects ?

I wanted to delay my little ones as he was acting very strange after his last sets of vaccines when he was 18 months old.

He had staring spells and was blinking a lot for months and I got a fright 😔

i am honestly very nervous about this MMR.

thank you.

@Orangelemonclemon - so you have no background in how to properly interpret the information you are reading to come up with this “personalised” schedule of delaying/refusing vaccines. Interesting. 🤔

@Bayaz yes that's the one. The author is pro vaccine and talks widely about his support for childhood vaccinations. Very interesting books.

@Eightfour i didnt come up with my delayed schedule, the GP did. Many people dont take the vaccines to the regular schedule for all sorts of reasons. The information concerning viruses and vaccines on the uk gov website is very easy to digest. It is great that the government provide the information in this way because there are so many scare mongering websites on vaccines and for anyone who has concerns or even simply wants more information, id highly recommend looking at the official source.

we have delayed vaccines when we wanted to take it but not as scheduled.

@Orangelemonclemon

Sport to keep banging on but I don't understand the 'delaying '.

So you want to take some vaccines but you want different timings to the gov schedule? Have I got that right?

What informs your different schedule? What are the reasons for it?

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@sunglassesonthetable if you dont take vaccines at the normal time and then you want to take a vaccine, the GP puts you on a catch up program. We have been happy to just take the GP's recommendations with regards to the actual scheduling. Some people delay because they dont like multiple vaccines in one go, some people from outwith the uk prefer to continue to follow the schedule of their home country, i guess some people might have simply forgotten to keep up, there are all sorts of reasons, and its not uncommon.

@Orangelemonclemon

so when you say you have your 4 lists of vaccines, there's no particular reason that some are on the 'delayed list' other than by your GP's scheduling?

@sunglassesonthetable yes.

The lack of compassion on here for people who have had scary experiences after vaccines is abysmal. As is the gaslighting.

OP, you're doing the right thing. Take your time, follow your instinct. You're clearly not an antivax person and people are just scared of things they don't understand. It's so much easier for keyboard warriors to claim you're lying than it is for them to acknowledge that life is nuanced, complicated and painful.
You know what happened to your child but whether or not the vaccine had anything to do with it, neither you but more importantly neither do the other posters know.
You're acting as a responsible parent. Well done.

One of my DC had a bad reaction to a vaccine (she was was feverish and unhappy after her first whooping cough jab, which was expected, but had a high fever and cried pretty much non-stop for 24 hours after her second). On the GP's advice we delayed the third.

Nonetheless, all of my DC had all their vaccines, including their MMRs at the height of the Wakefield-induced panic. I found out what I could about that study and the tiny sample and lack of a control group of any sort rang massive alarm bells - I wasn't convinced by it at all.

Plus, I was very sick with measles as a young child. I spent a part of that childhood in a country where the results of low/no vaccination were begging in the streets (polio, active TB). This obviously had an impact on how I view vaccines.

It's all very well to say that if infection rates rise you'll get your child vaccinated. But what if that child is one of the early cases? Of if there is a rush on the vaccine and stocks run out? What if your child is an early case and, while asymptomatic but infectious, passes it on at nursery?

It's the responsibility of all of us to be vaccinated to protect everyone: those too young to be vaccinated, those who cannot be vaccinated, and those for whom vaccination, for whatever reason, hasn't worked - which could be any of us.

@Orangelemonclemon - Nope still not clear. Who has chosen to delay the vaccines? You with your lists, or your GP for another reason? If your GP then what does your lists have to do with anything?

@Commonsense22 a responsible parent?

I wonder how responsible her friends and family will think her when her kid gets measles.

@Orangelemonclemon what you're actually doing is wasting your GP's very valuable time with your utter nonsense.

I really think @mnhq should immediately take down anti vaxx threads. They are dangerous and any idiot is then able to start thinking this insidious shit for themselves.

@tempnameforadvice its only a waste of time to set up catch up schedules if you dont support more people being vaccinated. The information on how to catch up is readily available from the pharmaceutical companies within the uk gov website and also part of a current campaign being ran by the government since last year which nhs practices are signed up with. The world health organisation describe catch up programs as essential parts of well functioning national immunisation programmes and say they should be implemented on a continuous basis. The red book provides the uk gov recommendation on when children should get vaccinated. If you look on the gov website, there is a spreadsheet you can download with the schedules of multiple other countries, the whole world doesnt vaccinated their children against mmr at age 12/13 months. If people want to hold off and take it at a later date, they should and are supported in doing so. The alternative is that you will have an even lower uptake.

Everyone gets the opportunity to discuss vaccines in the UK with their midwife and if concerned can also speak to the GP. The gov website contains so much information on every single vaccine and the virus it protects against. The gov has spent time and money on making this information available so people can read it. Im not sure what the problem is with reading official information and then making a decision based on that. Most people do that every day at work.

100%, the PP thinks they are oh so smart and special coming up with their own little lists and schedule. I bet the GP is rolling their eyes and thinking what a waste of my time.

But you still haven’t explained WHY your child needs to catch up. Why you are delaying/refusing. In one post it’s because of your “research” and lists in another because your GP said so.

Read this essay by Roald Dahl:

"Measles: A Dangerous Illness
Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old. As the illness took its usual course I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it.
Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of coloured pipe-cleaners, and when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and her mind were not working together and she couldn’t do anything.
“Are you feeling all right?” I asked her.
“I feel all sleepy,” she said.
In an hour, she was unconscious. In 12 hours she was dead.
The measles had turned into a terrible thing called measles encephalitis and there was nothing the doctors could do to save her.
That was 24 years ago in 1962, but even now, if a child with measles happens to develop the same deadly reaction from measles as Olivia did, there would still be nothing the doctors could do to help her.
On the other hand, there is today something that parents can do to make sure that this sort of tragedy does not happen to a child of theirs. They can insist that their child is immunised against measles.
I was unable to do that for Olivia in 1962 because in those days a reliable measles vaccine had not been discovered. Today a good and safe vaccine is available to every family and all you have to do is to ask your doctor to administer it.
It is not yet generally accepted that measles can be a dangerous illness. Believe me, it is. In my opinion parents who now refuse to have their children immunised are putting the lives of those children at risk.
In America, where measles immunisation is compulsory, measles like smallpox, has been virtually wiped out.
Here in Britain, because so many parents refuse, either out of obstinacy or ignorance or fear, to allow their children to be immunised, we still have a hundred thousand cases of measles every year.
Out of those, more than 10,000 will suffer side effects of one kind or another. At least 10,000 will develop ear or chest infections. About 20 will die"

@Eightfour i have explained. It is my decision to not take and if i decide at a later date to take it then the gp adds you to a catch up schedule. I find the lists a good way of keeping track so i dont miss any. Im not sure why everyone wouldnt want to look them up. Surely you read the leaflet in the calpol box the first time you took that? Its not a bad thing to seek more information from official sources. Your first smarmy post to me was asking why i think im qualified to create the schedule. I dont create the schedule, the gp does, but it wouldnt be hard. All the info is on the gov website. Its all very run of the mill. Every gp practise offers this service. If the gp is rolling their eyes and thinking what a waste of their time then i think thats pretty unprofessional and rude. Thankfully not experienced anything like that kind of behaviour though.

My daughter has her 12 month vaccines delayed as she ended up in hospital due to the menB vaccine. She started her 12 month vaccines one at a time at 15 months under the care of a specialist paediatrician. The vaccine the paediatrician was adamant would come first and gave her it there and then was the Mmr. It really is important to give it at the earliest opportunity. Waiting until there is an epidemic in you town or street or house could be too late.

But you have created the schedule by choosing to delay vaccines based on your own “research”. I am not sure why your interpretation of the information is deemed superior to the thousands of scientists who actually have knowledge of this.

And yes I read the inserts but I am also aware that they are required to report everything and that they have been deemed safe by those with much more knowledge than me.

And my post wasn’t smarmy. I think you come across arrogant as hell with your lists and your poor Gp having to accommodate your ridiculousness.

For goodness sake everyone. This is bullying and also plain thick.
For most people, the mmr vaccine is the right choice. Exceptionally, people have disastrous reactions that society considers it best not to be speak about out of fear more people will opt out of vaccines.

Not being able to prove a link between a vaccine and a reaction doesn't mean there isn't one. None if you have the foggiest clue. There may not be a trend between the type of reaction described and the vaccine. As a one off who knows? Certainly not you lot.

The OP's case suddenly skews the balance from "it's most sensible to get the mmr vaccine" to "it's most sensible to delay it". Which the OP has done.

I wish I'd followed my gut rather than the doctor's and nurses advice and checkbox approach to medicine. My son would still be alive.

OP stay strong and ignore this bunch of bullying idiots.

@Orangelemonclemon I don’t mean this unkindly because you are clearly a loving parent and clever enough not to be a central casting antivaxxer of the sort who “researches” nonsense on YouTube…

But your approach, to me, is typical of a kind of unnecessary preciousness overlaid with pretend intellect which is typical of the more thoughtful antivaxxer these days.

It’s all good and well to research government data on vaccine uptake and yes one should not take everything the pharmaceutical companies say at face value but what is the actual point of this? How does your family having an elaborate and time consuming schedule for your children’s vaccinations help either your family, the population or the NHS?

Theres a well constructed narrative here that is designed to make you look more thoughtful than the people who watch loads of tin hat videos on Facebook but really what additional research or information are you gleaning that supports better public health?

It’s very well camouflaged but when it comes down to brass tacks what you are actually saying is that you know better than the medical professionals who are advising you and you expect them to adjust their public health campaigns to suit your own needs.

I find it very striking how the antivax community has learned to PR itself and cover the conspiracy theories in a superficially sensible sounding rhetoric and I’m afraid your posts are a good example.

Ultimately you are just wasting everyone’s time (including your own) and not supporting public health.

Please stop scaring yourself and get the vaccine.

If your child gets measles, which is actually quite likely over the course of DCs life given declining vaccine rates due to misinformation, then you need to decide whether you could live with yourself because it's a case of WHEN not IF.

If you would trust the GPs opinion to treat your child for conjunctivitis then you need to take their advice on vaccines, trusting your doctor is not a pick and mix, you either trust or dont. Google doesnt know better than your doctor.

A man died in Ireland from measles this week.

Trust your gut OP, trust your gut. The above posts are gaslighting, refusing to enter into any discourse of substance by blaming your character and making assumptions on your motivations. It's so easy.

I am no remotely antivax and dd has had all hers on schedule. I AM against paint by numbers medicine.