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to think this isn't right? mother convicted if manslaughter

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greenacrylicpaint · 07/02/2024 06:43

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68223118

A jury has found a Michigan mother guilty of involuntary manslaughter for failing to stop her son from carrying out a deadly school shooting.

by all means, she didn't come across as mother of the year, but come on.
what sentence will the father get?
an absent father in a similar case?

oh america

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Nanny0gg · 12/02/2024 17:24

Lassiata · 07/02/2024 11:01

All these posts listing reasons she should be convicted, they're all reasons she's a bad parent. So charge her with negligence or something then. But don;'t you see the fundamental difference between that and convicting her of manslaughter for someone else's crime? Seems like a very worrying precedent to me.

Not when she supplied the gun!

The rest, absolute negligence

Buying the gun and teaching him to use it - her fault

sashh · 13/02/2024 04:03

@WhatWhereWho

I have / had no idea who she is, I thought her take on this was interesting but I am looking for other commenters.

I've been watching some of the trial today.

It's just so tragic.

Ihavehadenoughalready · 13/02/2024 06:57

American here who watched the trial. The issue that got her convicted is that she and her husband bought the gun FOR HIM as an early Christmas present, failed to tell the school that fact when they were called in to the office the very day of the shooting due to him having drawn a gun, a figure shooting, and the words "blood everywhere" and other similar disturbing things the math teacher found on his homework assignment, then failed to take him home from school for any type of emergency mental health assessment, failed to ask him if he had the gun, failed to go home and make sure the gun was secured. As soon as they heard of the shooting that same day they both pretty much said "oh shit" to themselves. THEN they went home and discovered the gun was missing. Too late. They did not secure the gun. They claimed it was secure but they said they put the key to the gun lock in a beer stein. The other two guns in the house in a gun safe had the safe combo "000". At trial the prosecution showed the gunlock they claimed to use had not even been taken out of its packaging so they lied. The proof they did not secure the guns is that he was able to take the gun to school. That's what got her convicted. Dad will be convicted too. The kid is in prison for life no possibility of parole. She wasn't convicted merely because he committed a school shooting, it was because their negligence in securing guns in the home gave her minor son access. The dad did an illegal straw purchase to buy the gun for his son. The mother bought not ammo for Target practice but ammo her son wanted which was for killing.

As an American sick to death of the school shootings and gun violence (and working in a hospital where shooting victims are an almost daily occurrence) I applaud the prosecution and the jury in this case.

Ihavehadenoughalready · 13/02/2024 07:03

And furthermore, she was convicted of involuntary manslaughter, which is basically gross negligence leading to death. Frankly I think she's getting off easy.

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