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To think King Charles would do more for awareness by saying which cancer he has

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DontLeanOnTheKeyboard · 06/02/2024 21:05

Why all the secrecy? Everyone knows where the prostate is so is fully aware of the initial investigations - if he is happy to share that very personal info, why not say what cancer? It would surely be more useful for him to say ‘it’s this, I had symptoms but ignored them..’

Same as what the Queen died of and I think Kate’s missed a trick in not making herself more human by sharing a little more around the abdo surgery. Childbirth does all kinds of shit to women’s bodies, it seems a good subject to say ‘happens to us all’

Is there some royal protocol that means they can’t say?

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luckylavender · 07/02/2024 11:00

Nofilteritwonthelp · 06/02/2024 21:11

I actually agree with this. I thi m they be better to say nothing, instead of something and basically create hype and speculation. I also agree you're not creating awareness if it's all secretive and vague

There's no way he could say nothing when he has to disappear from public view. Other than that mind your won business.

Nofilteritwonthelp · 07/02/2024 11:11

luckylavender · 07/02/2024 11:00

There's no way he could say nothing when he has to disappear from public view. Other than that mind your won business.

I don't see how you can say you're raising awareness about something if you're all vague about it. Better to just not say anything. People who actually raise awareness of things are quite clear what they're raining awareness about!

Jovacknockowitch · 07/02/2024 11:22

What does raising awareness even mean?

fliptopbin · 07/02/2024 11:25

He talked about the prostate issue to raise awareness. He has mentioned the cancer to explain why he is stepping back from public duties. The two are separate things.
There is no awareness to be raised here, as he can't say watch out for these symptoms or get this check when his cancer was an incidental finding, which suggests he had no symptoms.

AutumnCrow · 07/02/2024 12:12

Jovacknockowitch · 07/02/2024 11:22

What does raising awareness even mean?

I think it's where those nice TV doctors like Hillary Jones and Sarah Jarvis issue such sterling advice as, 'and if you're worried you have any of these symptoms, just pop along to your GP and get some lovely reassurance' <hollow laughs from UK population>

allmyliesaretrue · 07/02/2024 12:21

BlackGoldSun · 06/02/2024 23:15

I’m not a fan of the royals generally, and Kate in particular I dislike, but I think it’s awful that they can’t have some privacy regarding medical issues.
When a close family member was diagnosed we took some time to get our heads around it. As it happens people asked all kinds of nosey questions, the answers to which may have compromised dignity, so I can totally understand not wanting literally the world to know alL your symptoms.

How on earth can you dislike Kate? She’s literally never put a foot wrong!

allmyliesaretrue · 07/02/2024 12:28

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 07/02/2024 04:03

Is having a terrible temper also a symptom?

Are you always completely calm?

Nasty, mean-spirited comment!!

HK3444 · 07/02/2024 16:10

We asked Professor Declan Murphy, head of genitourinary oncology at the Peter MacCallum Cancer Centre in Melbourne, which cancers are incidentally found during an operation for a benign enlargement of the prostate.

“Bladder cancer is probably the most common. It can be asymptomatic, and those with an incidentally discovered small cancer do very well on treatment,” he said.
“The first part of prostate surgery is to use a telescope to look inside the bladder. It’s not unheard of to find benign stones or a small cancer that was not detected on the pre-operation scan.
“Typically, we would remove the growth and send it for analysis. If it proves cancerous, one treatment strategy is to follow-up with a once-weekly installation of chemotherapy into the bladder over the next six weeks.”
Professor Murphy says 70 per cent of these cancers are confined to the inner lining of the bladder, and while they can be removed, they can “pop back again” and must be treated again.
“I often describe them as being more like a nuisance cancer rather than a dangerous cancer,” he said.

Moreorlessmentallystable · 07/02/2024 16:17

I don't like the royals, but medical records are a very personal thing. I think they are sharing enough.

mylittleworld563 · 07/02/2024 17:04

Personally I think announcing he has cancer is helpful for raising awareness on its own. He's in a position where so little about his life gets to be private, surely he can be allowed a little bit of privacy for whatever medical or health conditions he has.

The same goes for the Princess of Wales. Maybe in time we will know what is wrong with her but we have no 'right' to know and there isn't and obligation for them to tell us.

DollyTubb · 07/02/2024 17:11

It's sometimes very hard dealing with medical situations/illnesses and coming to terms with it yourself and letting your family know can be very difficult and adding additional stress to what is already a very stressful situation. I don't blame KC or the PoW at all for wanting to keep things private. To have your most intimate health problems dissected and nauseum in the public domain by 'Google Doctors' is something no one would want.

Sunshine322 · 07/02/2024 17:32

I find it admirable when celebrities / those in the public eye disclose their own medical issues to raise awareness. The celebrity effect can be hugely positive ( think jade goody and the increased uptake for cervical screening ). However, there is absolutely no obligation to share this information and we should respect that.

DontLeanOnTheKeyboard · 07/02/2024 19:44

For the last time, for those who don’t like sticking to what is actually written.

I don’t think I have a right, I try to avoid news on the RF because I am not a fan and don’t think they should be a thing in today’s world. Unfortunately, despite my best efforts, every media source is dripping with gushing platitudes and all saying how good he is ‘for raising awareness’ and he ‘hopes to raise awareness’.

Awareness of what? Pancreatic cancer that a dear friend died of after doctors ignoring her symptoms? The friend who died of metastatic breast cancer because her surgeon didn’t remove enough sentinel nodes? And then ignored the pain in the shoulder she developed? Or bowel cancer, that so many have and they get fobbed off - my mum had to pretty much haemorrhage into the toilet bowel and have severe anaemia before they finally tested for the fucking huge cancer she had?

those of you questioning the raising awareness - it wasn’t my idea, it was his. Which led me to the view, fair play to you, but without naming the cancer it’s a bit pointless, 1 in 2 of us etc etc.

People will, and are speculating anyway. People speculate when anyone is seriously ill, it’s human nature. I’m as curious as the next person, I posted fairly blandly on a SM site, I didn’t say ‘I demand KC tell us every gory detail, show the scans, the staging’. I just thought saying the type was no more personal than letting us all know he’s recently had a prostate exam (I’m not writing how it’s done as there’s a few here will have me in the tower by the morning).

Ive had IVF, a colposcopy, 3 recurrent hernias, 2 c-sections and a heart attack. I’m happy to discuss them, especially having a heart attack as a female, and how the paramedic was probs 5 minutes from missing it because I wasn’t a grey, sweaty mess. Quite happy, if it saves a life.

I’m going in for hernia repair #4 next week - fully open surgery to try to fix it forever. I will be in 3 days.

But yeah, I forgot you can’t have your own opinion on MN.

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Lauraa7 · 07/02/2024 19:51

Probably best not to create more awareness, the NHS can’t cope as it is.

allmyliesaretrue · 07/02/2024 20:01

DontLeanOnTheKeyboard · 07/02/2024 19:44

For the last time, for those who don’t like sticking to what is actually written.

I don’t think I have a right, I try to avoid news on the RF because I am not a fan and don’t think they should be a thing in today’s world. Unfortunately, despite my best efforts, every media source is dripping with gushing platitudes and all saying how good he is ‘for raising awareness’ and he ‘hopes to raise awareness’.

Awareness of what? Pancreatic cancer that a dear friend died of after doctors ignoring her symptoms? The friend who died of metastatic breast cancer because her surgeon didn’t remove enough sentinel nodes? And then ignored the pain in the shoulder she developed? Or bowel cancer, that so many have and they get fobbed off - my mum had to pretty much haemorrhage into the toilet bowel and have severe anaemia before they finally tested for the fucking huge cancer she had?

those of you questioning the raising awareness - it wasn’t my idea, it was his. Which led me to the view, fair play to you, but without naming the cancer it’s a bit pointless, 1 in 2 of us etc etc.

People will, and are speculating anyway. People speculate when anyone is seriously ill, it’s human nature. I’m as curious as the next person, I posted fairly blandly on a SM site, I didn’t say ‘I demand KC tell us every gory detail, show the scans, the staging’. I just thought saying the type was no more personal than letting us all know he’s recently had a prostate exam (I’m not writing how it’s done as there’s a few here will have me in the tower by the morning).

Ive had IVF, a colposcopy, 3 recurrent hernias, 2 c-sections and a heart attack. I’m happy to discuss them, especially having a heart attack as a female, and how the paramedic was probs 5 minutes from missing it because I wasn’t a grey, sweaty mess. Quite happy, if it saves a life.

I’m going in for hernia repair #4 next week - fully open surgery to try to fix it forever. I will be in 3 days.

But yeah, I forgot you can’t have your own opinion on MN.

He disclosed the prostate issue to raise awareness, not the cancer diagnosis I believe.

He may feel ready to talk about it further down the line, but if he doesn't want to, that's ok. We have no entitlement to know.

Fofftwenty21 · 07/02/2024 20:09

@DontLeanOnTheKeyboard

Good luck with your surgery Flowers

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allmyliesaretrue · 07/02/2024 20:17

DontLeanOnTheKeyboard · 07/02/2024 20:12

@allmyliesaretrue where did I say I,or anyone else, was entitled to know?

please look here to see where the awareness nonsense came from

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/charles-king-buckingham-palace-nhs-prostate-cancer-uk-b1137281.html

I didn't say that you did.

According to that article, Buckingham Palace said it was to raise awareness of cancer? It's not as if people are unaware.

I give up!

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