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He told me he wanted kids now I love him and he has changed his mind

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Kassie2222 · 05/02/2024 23:52

This is a long story but here goes…I finally plucked up the courage to try dating two years ago after many heartbreaks and scares. After two years of losing the will to live punctuated by nice but boring dates, a guy sent me a message on a dating app last Summer. It was a lovely complimentary message - a rarity on dating sites. So I matched with him to reply. I thanked him for the compliment but told him we would be incompatible as I want children and he had stated on his profile that he didn’t want anymore. He told me he did want more, but with the right person and there wasn’t an option to clarify this, so for simplicity, he selected the option that he did not want anymore. When I told him this wasn’t true, and he could in fact select the option that. he would consider having more, he seemed confused and said he hadn’t realised.

Against my better judgement, he managed to convince me to go on a date with him. We unexpectedly really hit it off. Sparks flew, I felt hope like I hadn’t experienced in years. I have significant trauma in my past and I didn’t have a relationship for years. I had been to years of expensive therapy to even get the courage to date again, so this was a thrilling, euphoric, liberating time. I did things with him I would never usually do - like stay at his house, let him prepare my food and drink, make time to see him regularly, and have unprotected relations with him. All was going really well and we had the talk and decided to be exclusive. This was also a very difficult relationship because from the beginning, he constantly compared me to his kids and emphasised that I would never come first and I would never compare to them.

This started to get me quite down. I was confused and hurt at the double standard that he wanted me to make him a priority in my life but he wouldn’t be willing to make me a priority in his at any time. It sounded like he was using his kids as an excuse to behave badly because everyone has important things in their lives, whether they have kids or not, and it felt unreasonable to me for this man to tell me that he wanted a relationship with me but expected me to settle for not being prioritised. I’m not saying I expected to come before his kids, but I don’t understand why he would set up this hierarchical system from the beginning when this is not applied to other relationships and everyone knows a romantic relationship is a relationship like any other and if it’s not prioritised, it won’t last.

Anyway, I unexpectedly found out he was exploring other options on dating sites while telling me he wanted to be exclusive and when I confronted him, he ended it over text. During the time I was shocked and heartbroken over this, I tried to reconnect with him and repair the relationship. He strung me along for four months and I later found out that, during this time, he was in another relationship and when it ended, he asked me if I’d like to meet up.

When we met up, he explained that he had been talking to someone from a dating site but only because they bonded over having kids.

We have since rekindled the relationship and we were talking again about my plan to have children of my own in the future. Out of the blue, he told me that he had a vasectomy while we were split up. I feel totally confused as if he had told me from the beginning he didn’t want kids, I would have never pursued anything with him, which I told him at the beginning.

i just feel like he never wanted kids in the first place and felt ok to mislead me about this as long as he got what he wanted. I just feel like maybe he doesn’t care about me or value me. Yet I’ve totally fallen for him and it’s so confusing how easily I’ve connected with him. He is caring and treats me decently, but I just don’t know if his motivations for this is to get things his own way.

I know I can’t persuade someone to have children with me but am I being unreasonable to feel hurt by his actions? I don’t know whether to stay with him because it’s the closest thing I have felt to a connection in years or if i am wasting my final fertile years on someone who is happy to let me do this because he already has his own kids with previous partners and he has already made it clear that I don’t fit into this picture

On a positive note, we laugh a lot, we can talk for hours, we feel comfortable with each other, but I can’t help feel he doesn’t see me as important enough to make me part of his life. Am I being unreasonable to feel this way?

I don’t know if it’s better to hold on to what I have rather than to let go of it in the hope I might meet someone who will want to have children with me knowing I may risk having nothing in the end. Bearing in mind, it has been over ten years since I last met a man I liked

OP posts:
L0bstersLass · 06/02/2024 10:40

@Kassie2222 I don’t know if it’s better to hold on to what I have rather than to let go of it in the hope I might meet someone who will want to have children with me knowing I may risk having nothing in the end. Bearing in mind, it has been over ten years since I last met a man I liked

Let go isn't firm enough. You need to drop him like a hot brick.
I understand the need to have children and the fear of not having them.
This prick is not the solution. He's a nasty man that has been manipulating you.

There is always the option of donor sperm if you want to go it alone in the future.
Please drop and block this man from your life. He is not the one.

L0bstersLass · 06/02/2024 10:41

@Kassie2222 Also, don't explain your reasoning to him as he will try to convince you that you're wrong.
Drop and block.

Pipsquiggle · 06/02/2024 10:48

In fact I would just ghost him - no communication (a short text, if you must 'this isn't working for me').
Immediate blocking on every platform / phone
Otherwise he will just talk you round

SpringleDingle · 06/02/2024 11:19

Red flag Central! This guy is a shit. Ditch him now!!

beAsensible1 · 06/02/2024 11:23

Sorry OP he’s not a nice or good person and you should’ve stayed away after the first break.

he has consistently lied, obfuscated, demeaned and belittled you.

you deserve so much more, stay strong and leave him.

Nanny0gg · 06/02/2024 11:30

Kassie2222 · 05/02/2024 23:52

This is a long story but here goes…I finally plucked up the courage to try dating two years ago after many heartbreaks and scares. After two years of losing the will to live punctuated by nice but boring dates, a guy sent me a message on a dating app last Summer. It was a lovely complimentary message - a rarity on dating sites. So I matched with him to reply. I thanked him for the compliment but told him we would be incompatible as I want children and he had stated on his profile that he didn’t want anymore. He told me he did want more, but with the right person and there wasn’t an option to clarify this, so for simplicity, he selected the option that he did not want anymore. When I told him this wasn’t true, and he could in fact select the option that. he would consider having more, he seemed confused and said he hadn’t realised.

Against my better judgement, he managed to convince me to go on a date with him. We unexpectedly really hit it off. Sparks flew, I felt hope like I hadn’t experienced in years. I have significant trauma in my past and I didn’t have a relationship for years. I had been to years of expensive therapy to even get the courage to date again, so this was a thrilling, euphoric, liberating time. I did things with him I would never usually do - like stay at his house, let him prepare my food and drink, make time to see him regularly, and have unprotected relations with him. All was going really well and we had the talk and decided to be exclusive. This was also a very difficult relationship because from the beginning, he constantly compared me to his kids and emphasised that I would never come first and I would never compare to them.

This started to get me quite down. I was confused and hurt at the double standard that he wanted me to make him a priority in my life but he wouldn’t be willing to make me a priority in his at any time. It sounded like he was using his kids as an excuse to behave badly because everyone has important things in their lives, whether they have kids or not, and it felt unreasonable to me for this man to tell me that he wanted a relationship with me but expected me to settle for not being prioritised. I’m not saying I expected to come before his kids, but I don’t understand why he would set up this hierarchical system from the beginning when this is not applied to other relationships and everyone knows a romantic relationship is a relationship like any other and if it’s not prioritised, it won’t last.

Anyway, I unexpectedly found out he was exploring other options on dating sites while telling me he wanted to be exclusive and when I confronted him, he ended it over text. During the time I was shocked and heartbroken over this, I tried to reconnect with him and repair the relationship. He strung me along for four months and I later found out that, during this time, he was in another relationship and when it ended, he asked me if I’d like to meet up.

When we met up, he explained that he had been talking to someone from a dating site but only because they bonded over having kids.

We have since rekindled the relationship and we were talking again about my plan to have children of my own in the future. Out of the blue, he told me that he had a vasectomy while we were split up. I feel totally confused as if he had told me from the beginning he didn’t want kids, I would have never pursued anything with him, which I told him at the beginning.

i just feel like he never wanted kids in the first place and felt ok to mislead me about this as long as he got what he wanted. I just feel like maybe he doesn’t care about me or value me. Yet I’ve totally fallen for him and it’s so confusing how easily I’ve connected with him. He is caring and treats me decently, but I just don’t know if his motivations for this is to get things his own way.

I know I can’t persuade someone to have children with me but am I being unreasonable to feel hurt by his actions? I don’t know whether to stay with him because it’s the closest thing I have felt to a connection in years or if i am wasting my final fertile years on someone who is happy to let me do this because he already has his own kids with previous partners and he has already made it clear that I don’t fit into this picture

On a positive note, we laugh a lot, we can talk for hours, we feel comfortable with each other, but I can’t help feel he doesn’t see me as important enough to make me part of his life. Am I being unreasonable to feel this way?

I don’t know if it’s better to hold on to what I have rather than to let go of it in the hope I might meet someone who will want to have children with me knowing I may risk having nothing in the end. Bearing in mind, it has been over ten years since I last met a man I liked

There's buntings full of red flags there.

Walk away. Then block. Then walk away some more.

He's a player

BusyMummy001 · 06/02/2024 11:37

Same thing happened to my sister - met a guy at 33/34 via an app where both he and she clearly expressed their desire to have kids, dated for 3 years. Then he revealed he didn’t really. At 38 she realised that it was now too late to start a new relationship in the hopes of having kids. She was devastated and obviously had no choice but the end the relationship as she felt he had gaslighted her al along.

She eventually met someone else at 40, and is now happily engaged and loved-up at 45, but as BiL-to-be is divorced and already has children, not even adoption is a possibility. She is throwing herself into an active social life, occasional step parenting his uni aged kids, and hoping to one day have the dog her ex also would not let her have… but it has taken a long time to get over the fact that her ex effectively deprived her of the chance to have kids.

Utterly evil and selfish of men to do this. Sending hugs x

Pinkdelight3 · 06/02/2024 11:42

Against my better judgement

Let him go and listen to your better judgement in future. The kids thing is a side issue. He's a liar and cheat and he's messed you around from the off. Forget him, keep working on yourself and don't get swept away next time.

Threecrows · 06/02/2024 11:45

Get rid of this monster

Catlord · 06/02/2024 11:48

He's been an arsehole from start to finish. He is callous and enjoys hurting you. Some people just do. Block him and allow someone nice the opportunity to get to know you. Next time do not give anything like so many chances.

If you don't have kids and want them I would personally suggest limiting your search to men without kids unless someone jumps out as very special and is clear they want more. Especially if time isn't massively on your side (apologies if I've missed your age). Just keeps things much simpler IME at this life stage, nothing against dating parents in principle.

Sedgwick · 06/02/2024 11:49

He is wasting your time.

Dump him. Block him. Try to raise your standards. You sound lovely and deserve someone who values you.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 06/02/2024 12:49

Out of the blue, he told me that he had a vasectomy while we were split up.

I bet this is total bollocks. I bet he had this done before you started seeing each other.

He has lied and cheated, time for him to go if it were me.

Kassie2222 · 06/02/2024 14:21

I actually did wonder about this as he was very casual about having unprotected sex despite saying that one of the kids he had was a terrible mistake. When I asked him about it, he denied it and said he had just had a vasectomy recently. I spent Christmas worrying that I might be pregnant and even though I want kids, this really terrified me. Had I known there was no need to worry, it would have saved me a lot of distress

OP posts:
Gloriosaford · 06/02/2024 14:24

OP, he is an awful shyster please promise us that you will drop and block 🙏🏻

Wingedharpy · 06/02/2024 14:37

L0bstersLass · 06/02/2024 10:41

@Kassie2222 Also, don't explain your reasoning to him as he will try to convince you that you're wrong.
Drop and block.

Absolutely.....and he started this nonsense before you'd even met.
You were spot on with your instincts OP - you are incompatible.
You want a long term relationship and a family.
He wants his idea of a good time.

Pipsquiggle · 06/02/2024 14:38

@Kassie2222 - I would go and get tested for STDs if you have been having unprotected sex with this cheating man

mathanxiety · 06/02/2024 14:50

Dump this liar.

You've been hooked by a player.

friskybivalves · 06/02/2024 14:51

Weapons-grade shit. Thank god you can escape.

mathanxiety · 06/02/2024 14:53

And go back to therapy.

You have discovered you're attracted to a man who isn't available to you at all, someone who is essentially a conman, and who has told you this and demonstrated this to you - he has all but whacked you over the head with this truth for the entire duration of the relationship

If nothing else, this relationship has taught you this valuable information about yourself, and now you need to get help dealing with it.

Giv0iw · 06/02/2024 14:55

The man was messy from the start. Just block him and beware in future if a man has kids already they likely won't want any more depending on their age also.

How old are you? I wouldn't be surprised if the man had already had the snip when you first met him. He's a liar either way.

ChangeAgain2 · 06/02/2024 14:56

Kassie2222 · 06/02/2024 14:21

I actually did wonder about this as he was very casual about having unprotected sex despite saying that one of the kids he had was a terrible mistake. When I asked him about it, he denied it and said he had just had a vasectomy recently. I spent Christmas worrying that I might be pregnant and even though I want kids, this really terrified me. Had I known there was no need to worry, it would have saved me a lot of distress

After a vasectomy you need to wait 3 months and then test to see if there are any swimmers. Me and DH had protected sex for about 5 months after until it was confirmed, by checking a sample in the laboratory, that their was no sperms present.

I agree he has either had the vasectomy before you met or hasn't had it at all and saying he has so he can have unprotected sex with you.

You need to test for STDs. Also, you really need to think about what your doing. Your having unprotected sex with a guy who already cheated alon you and that you have know for a very short amount of time. These are not risks you should be taking with your sexual health.

Kassie2222 · 06/02/2024 15:31

He told me he got tested a few weeks later to ensure there were no swimmers and he got the all clear. I’m starting to feel sick. I cannot tell you how unlike me this is

OP posts:
Kassie2222 · 06/02/2024 15:31

ChangeAgain2 · 06/02/2024 14:56

After a vasectomy you need to wait 3 months and then test to see if there are any swimmers. Me and DH had protected sex for about 5 months after until it was confirmed, by checking a sample in the laboratory, that their was no sperms present.

I agree he has either had the vasectomy before you met or hasn't had it at all and saying he has so he can have unprotected sex with you.

You need to test for STDs. Also, you really need to think about what your doing. Your having unprotected sex with a guy who already cheated alon you and that you have know for a very short amount of time. These are not risks you should be taking with your sexual health.

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He told me he got tested a few weeks later to ensure there were no swimmers and he got the all clear. I’m starting to feel sick. I cannot tell you how unlike me this is

OP posts:
StoatofDisarray · 06/02/2024 15:34

Time for you to change your mind about him and find someone else.

ChangeAgain2 · 06/02/2024 15:50

Kassie2222 · 06/02/2024 15:31

He told me he got tested a few weeks later to ensure there were no swimmers and he got the all clear. I’m starting to feel sick. I cannot tell you how unlike me this is

He told you that the relationship was monogamous as well but as you know that was a lie. You can't trust him. He's already shown you that. Don't ever trust a liar with your health or your future.

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