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He told me he wanted kids now I love him and he has changed his mind

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Kassie2222 · 05/02/2024 23:52

This is a long story but here goes…I finally plucked up the courage to try dating two years ago after many heartbreaks and scares. After two years of losing the will to live punctuated by nice but boring dates, a guy sent me a message on a dating app last Summer. It was a lovely complimentary message - a rarity on dating sites. So I matched with him to reply. I thanked him for the compliment but told him we would be incompatible as I want children and he had stated on his profile that he didn’t want anymore. He told me he did want more, but with the right person and there wasn’t an option to clarify this, so for simplicity, he selected the option that he did not want anymore. When I told him this wasn’t true, and he could in fact select the option that. he would consider having more, he seemed confused and said he hadn’t realised.

Against my better judgement, he managed to convince me to go on a date with him. We unexpectedly really hit it off. Sparks flew, I felt hope like I hadn’t experienced in years. I have significant trauma in my past and I didn’t have a relationship for years. I had been to years of expensive therapy to even get the courage to date again, so this was a thrilling, euphoric, liberating time. I did things with him I would never usually do - like stay at his house, let him prepare my food and drink, make time to see him regularly, and have unprotected relations with him. All was going really well and we had the talk and decided to be exclusive. This was also a very difficult relationship because from the beginning, he constantly compared me to his kids and emphasised that I would never come first and I would never compare to them.

This started to get me quite down. I was confused and hurt at the double standard that he wanted me to make him a priority in my life but he wouldn’t be willing to make me a priority in his at any time. It sounded like he was using his kids as an excuse to behave badly because everyone has important things in their lives, whether they have kids or not, and it felt unreasonable to me for this man to tell me that he wanted a relationship with me but expected me to settle for not being prioritised. I’m not saying I expected to come before his kids, but I don’t understand why he would set up this hierarchical system from the beginning when this is not applied to other relationships and everyone knows a romantic relationship is a relationship like any other and if it’s not prioritised, it won’t last.

Anyway, I unexpectedly found out he was exploring other options on dating sites while telling me he wanted to be exclusive and when I confronted him, he ended it over text. During the time I was shocked and heartbroken over this, I tried to reconnect with him and repair the relationship. He strung me along for four months and I later found out that, during this time, he was in another relationship and when it ended, he asked me if I’d like to meet up.

When we met up, he explained that he had been talking to someone from a dating site but only because they bonded over having kids.

We have since rekindled the relationship and we were talking again about my plan to have children of my own in the future. Out of the blue, he told me that he had a vasectomy while we were split up. I feel totally confused as if he had told me from the beginning he didn’t want kids, I would have never pursued anything with him, which I told him at the beginning.

i just feel like he never wanted kids in the first place and felt ok to mislead me about this as long as he got what he wanted. I just feel like maybe he doesn’t care about me or value me. Yet I’ve totally fallen for him and it’s so confusing how easily I’ve connected with him. He is caring and treats me decently, but I just don’t know if his motivations for this is to get things his own way.

I know I can’t persuade someone to have children with me but am I being unreasonable to feel hurt by his actions? I don’t know whether to stay with him because it’s the closest thing I have felt to a connection in years or if i am wasting my final fertile years on someone who is happy to let me do this because he already has his own kids with previous partners and he has already made it clear that I don’t fit into this picture

On a positive note, we laugh a lot, we can talk for hours, we feel comfortable with each other, but I can’t help feel he doesn’t see me as important enough to make me part of his life. Am I being unreasonable to feel this way?

I don’t know if it’s better to hold on to what I have rather than to let go of it in the hope I might meet someone who will want to have children with me knowing I may risk having nothing in the end. Bearing in mind, it has been over ten years since I last met a man I liked

OP posts:
Changeusernameseeusernamehistory · 06/02/2024 08:02

i just feel like he never wanted kids in the first place and felt ok to mislead me about this as long as he got what he wanted. I just feel like maybe he doesn’t care about me or value me.

this is it, really.

Hankunamatata · 06/02/2024 08:11

Stop chasing a man who doesn't value you

CaramelMac · 06/02/2024 08:22

He sounds awful, I wonder if you prefer the excitement of someone love bombing you to a ‘boring’ date with someone who wants to move a relationship along at a normal pace?

When you saw he had put he didn’t want kids you should’ve left it at that point.

FWIW if someone dumped me or was seeing other people behind my back I wouldn’t get back in touch with them and try to convince them to give it another try. If someone shows you they have no respect for you then walk away.

Olika · 06/02/2024 08:27

Stop thinking he is the only man you can meet. Of course you are wasting your life away with him. You let several things slip that were there to tell you he is not the man to be with but you ignored them. The longer you keep being with this wrong man the less time you have left with the right one.

samestyle · 06/02/2024 08:51

What a nightmare but the truth has come out that he was a complete liar. 💯 don't hold on hoping he'll change, you might of shared some good times but he lied his way to have a fling with you, he never had any intention of a relationship or kids. Just because you feel strongly about him, doesn't mean he's right, everyone here thinking he's a waste of time so should you.
Keep looking and don't date a man that already has kids when you're wanting them yourself , they won't give you time.
I found it hard enough to date another parent and I don't want more.

donica · 06/02/2024 08:55

The best thing you can do for yourself is learning to leave when someone violates your boundaries.

Stop trying to fix and change people, they don't treat you poorly because they don't know any better, they do it because they don't care.

'Women who love too much' is a great read and might help if you enjoy reading.

Luxell934 · 06/02/2024 09:00

I mean never mind the fact he now can’t have children with you shouldn’t you be more worried that this man lies and cheats?!
That shouldn’t be someone you consider having kids with.

ClumsyNinja · 06/02/2024 09:04

Stop thinking you can change him. Don’t allow your desire to have a child cloud your judgment and wilfully ignore all the red flags.

If a new date doesn’t tick all the ‘essential’ boxes for you, move on. I met my DH when I was 36 and had kids in my early forties. I wasn’t actively looking for a boyfriend at all, having moved house and changed jobs, but we met by chance.

There are lots of wonderful men out there but exciting and cheating often go hand in hand so be careful what you wish for!

Iamnotalemming · 06/02/2024 09:08

This guy does not make you happy. He has not treated you with respect or honesty.

OP you are worth more than this. 💐

Excited101 · 06/02/2024 09:09

Dear god op. Kids is the least of your worries. This man will hurt you again. I can literally guarantee it. You can either wait and see if it’s the cheating, the lying, the misleading, the putting you down or something new… or you can get rid and move on. It’s your choice.

Mumsanetta · 06/02/2024 09:12

i just feel like he never wanted kids in the first place and felt ok to mislead me about this as long as he got what he wanted.

You are correct.

I just feel like maybe he doesn’t care about me or value me

He doesn’t.

I don’t know if it’s better to hold on to what I have rather than to let go of it in the hope I might meet someone who will want to have children with me knowing I may risk having nothing in the end.

What you have is a liar, a cheat and arch manipulator. Throw this one back in the sea and run for the hills (or back to counselling). The longer you spend with him the more time you waste not being available for a genuine, decent man.

Hooplahooping · 06/02/2024 09:36

He is a horrible, selfish lier who strings you along, sometimes makes you laugh + leaves enough space to let you believe what you want to believe.

You deserve more than that. He has shown you who he is. Believe him.

TeaGinandFags · 06/02/2024 09:42

He lied to you.
He cheated on you.
He's told you you'll never be good enough.
Now he's moved the goal posts.

Bin him.
He's soooo not good enough for you.

lookwhatyoudidthere · 06/02/2024 09:44

Sorry you're having such a rough time. This guy is a walking red flag, he knows that he can't give you what you want, so he's disengaged. I'd run if I were you. Why would you want to give someone another chance, who ultimately can't offer what you'd like.

Newestname002 · 06/02/2024 10:16

Oh dear @Kassie2222, this is not good. From the very beginning this man has been manipulating you. You've seen some of this in your peripheral vision but your desire to gave a partner and the bits of the emotional cycle when he's being lovely to you blind you to his unkindness and inconsistencies. He is mirroring your desire to have children because that keeps you with him even though, sadly, you are more of an "option" to him than a proper potential long term partner. He's already cheated on you either way with someone else on another dating site - how often has he done so during what was supposed to be an exclusive relationship I wonder?

I wonder also if he's not absolutely lying about only fairly recently getting a vasectomy when he knew, from the beginning that you wanted children? Hence the "confusion" about what box to tick). Reread your first paragraph on your opening post.

Please don't have any more unprotected sex with him - firstly, you only have his word he's had a vasectomy (and he's already a liar so what's his word worth?) and second, he's likely having unprotected sex with other women, so putting your own sexual health at risk. So take an STI test to check you're still OK and booting him to the kerb.

Better to travel alone than constantly be off-kilter with someone who does not value you. 🌹

Wednesdaysphiltrum · 06/02/2024 10:18

Jesus. Why on earth have you ‘rekindled’ this? I really think you need to work on yourself esteem OP.

He’s a total dud. He’d always had a vasectomy, hence being happy to have ‘unprotected relations’ with you.

He was future faking, lying and using you.

He was sleeping with other women and probably treating them better than you.

Tell him to fuck off, lick your wounds and move on.

Pipsquiggle · 06/02/2024 10:19

It's a straight no from me.

He has lied and lied and lied to you. He has cheated on you. He has treated you poorly. He will tell you anything you want to hear to keep you stringing along.

Sounds like you are his safety shag, always there for him if he wants it.

Please move on from this low life

YireosDodeAver · 06/02/2024 10:23

He's not a nice man.

He said what you needed to hear to get you into bed. But he doesn't care about you.

Get rid.

wronginalltherightways · 06/02/2024 10:28

Oh honey.

Please consider counselling/therapy if you can get it.

You deserve so much better than this. So much better.

He is awful. Just awful.

You deserve so much better. And you don't see it.

Iusedtoliveinsanfrancisco · 06/02/2024 10:29

Start thinking about why you only like men that treat you badly

BigPussyEnergy · 06/02/2024 10:31

I think the vast, vast majority of those men are weak, entitled little piss babies who can’t stand to have a difficult conversation, and are absolutely incensed that they lose access to a large quantity of the dating pool when being honest in one direction or the other. Big, big red flag for me.

100% my experience of dating tbh. They swipe based on a photo not on any kind of deeper reading of the situation and how well matched you are. Then they lie/tweak their story to fit with what you say you want so that they might have a chance to have sex.

Sorry, totally jaded at this point.

I’m not sure which option is reasonable or unreasonable so don’t take any notice of the poll results. Read the replies telling you to get rid of him. He’s not the one.

BigPussyEnergy · 06/02/2024 10:32

He’s a total dud. He’d always had a vasectomy, hence being happy to have ‘unprotected relations’ with you.

also this.

or he has no intention of having a vasectomy but also doesn’t want kids so if you get pregnant he’ll push you into a termination or run for the hills.

toomanyleggings · 06/02/2024 10:36

There’s none so blind than those who don’t want to see. He’s not interested. Move on.

LorlieS · 06/02/2024 10:37

What are you doing re contraception/safe sex, OP? I can fear I can guess the answer to this but hoping I'm wrong.

Blueraccoon · 06/02/2024 10:38

Bin him off as fast as you can.

Don’t waste another moment of your time on this man. If you do it’s going to be all heartache for you.

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