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He told me he wanted kids now I love him and he has changed his mind

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Kassie2222 · 05/02/2024 23:52

This is a long story but here goes…I finally plucked up the courage to try dating two years ago after many heartbreaks and scares. After two years of losing the will to live punctuated by nice but boring dates, a guy sent me a message on a dating app last Summer. It was a lovely complimentary message - a rarity on dating sites. So I matched with him to reply. I thanked him for the compliment but told him we would be incompatible as I want children and he had stated on his profile that he didn’t want anymore. He told me he did want more, but with the right person and there wasn’t an option to clarify this, so for simplicity, he selected the option that he did not want anymore. When I told him this wasn’t true, and he could in fact select the option that. he would consider having more, he seemed confused and said he hadn’t realised.

Against my better judgement, he managed to convince me to go on a date with him. We unexpectedly really hit it off. Sparks flew, I felt hope like I hadn’t experienced in years. I have significant trauma in my past and I didn’t have a relationship for years. I had been to years of expensive therapy to even get the courage to date again, so this was a thrilling, euphoric, liberating time. I did things with him I would never usually do - like stay at his house, let him prepare my food and drink, make time to see him regularly, and have unprotected relations with him. All was going really well and we had the talk and decided to be exclusive. This was also a very difficult relationship because from the beginning, he constantly compared me to his kids and emphasised that I would never come first and I would never compare to them.

This started to get me quite down. I was confused and hurt at the double standard that he wanted me to make him a priority in my life but he wouldn’t be willing to make me a priority in his at any time. It sounded like he was using his kids as an excuse to behave badly because everyone has important things in their lives, whether they have kids or not, and it felt unreasonable to me for this man to tell me that he wanted a relationship with me but expected me to settle for not being prioritised. I’m not saying I expected to come before his kids, but I don’t understand why he would set up this hierarchical system from the beginning when this is not applied to other relationships and everyone knows a romantic relationship is a relationship like any other and if it’s not prioritised, it won’t last.

Anyway, I unexpectedly found out he was exploring other options on dating sites while telling me he wanted to be exclusive and when I confronted him, he ended it over text. During the time I was shocked and heartbroken over this, I tried to reconnect with him and repair the relationship. He strung me along for four months and I later found out that, during this time, he was in another relationship and when it ended, he asked me if I’d like to meet up.

When we met up, he explained that he had been talking to someone from a dating site but only because they bonded over having kids.

We have since rekindled the relationship and we were talking again about my plan to have children of my own in the future. Out of the blue, he told me that he had a vasectomy while we were split up. I feel totally confused as if he had told me from the beginning he didn’t want kids, I would have never pursued anything with him, which I told him at the beginning.

i just feel like he never wanted kids in the first place and felt ok to mislead me about this as long as he got what he wanted. I just feel like maybe he doesn’t care about me or value me. Yet I’ve totally fallen for him and it’s so confusing how easily I’ve connected with him. He is caring and treats me decently, but I just don’t know if his motivations for this is to get things his own way.

I know I can’t persuade someone to have children with me but am I being unreasonable to feel hurt by his actions? I don’t know whether to stay with him because it’s the closest thing I have felt to a connection in years or if i am wasting my final fertile years on someone who is happy to let me do this because he already has his own kids with previous partners and he has already made it clear that I don’t fit into this picture

On a positive note, we laugh a lot, we can talk for hours, we feel comfortable with each other, but I can’t help feel he doesn’t see me as important enough to make me part of his life. Am I being unreasonable to feel this way?

I don’t know if it’s better to hold on to what I have rather than to let go of it in the hope I might meet someone who will want to have children with me knowing I may risk having nothing in the end. Bearing in mind, it has been over ten years since I last met a man I liked

OP posts:
Merryoldgoat · 05/02/2024 23:58

i just feel like he never wanted kids in the first place and felt ok to mislead me about this as long as he got what he wanted. I just feel like maybe he doesn’t care about me or value me. Yet I’ve totally fallen for him and it’s so confusing how easily I’ve connected with him. He is caring and treats me decently, but I just don’t know if his motivations for this is to get things his own way.

This is exactly correct and he’s callous. You are ignoring all of the red flags. You need to say goodbye to him for good.

He lies and cheats - nothing good will come of this relationship.

Fionaville · 06/02/2024 00:00

I'm sorry, but he's wasting your time. He sounds like he hasn't treated you well at all. Take the love goggles off and move on. You can get over him, he's really not worth your adoration. Dump him.

Ella31 · 06/02/2024 00:00

In the most gentle possible way - I can only think of the quote "we accept the love we think we deserve."

You are worth far more than this creep of a man. From the start he has played you and clearly strung you along. I think maybe your desire to have a child has blinded you to the fact that it would be a disaster to have them with him. Block him and move on. This isn't love.

Pumpkintopf · 06/02/2024 00:04

Just re-read this part of your post OP-

'Anyway, I unexpectedly found out he was exploring other options on dating sites while telling me he wanted to be exclusive and when I confronted him, he ended it over text. During the time I was shocked and heartbroken over this, I tried to reconnect with him and repair the relationship. He strung me along for four months and I later found out that, during this time, he was in another relationship and when it ended, he asked me if I’d like to meet up.'

  • and think, what would you advise a friend to do in this situation?
He clearly does not value you. He is showing you this in the way he behaves towards you. You can and absolutely should expect better.
Rachie1973 · 06/02/2024 00:04

He’s a dick. A dick that has treated you with absolute contempt. I don’t want to hurt your feelings but you’re a booty call! As soon as he got dumped he came running back to you!

He’s literally lied to you from the day you got together over numerous things, and you ‘try to reconnect’???

What are you doing my lovely??? Dump him and move on to someone better!

Testina · 06/02/2024 00:07

This started to get me quite down

This is why you have had “many heartbreaks” - because you’re not ending things when people aren’t good enough.

You’ll never meet someone lovely all the while you’re wasting your time on him.

Tandora · 06/02/2024 00:07

I voted YABU as this man is a nasty, selfish bastard, and you should not even be considering wasting another moment of your time/ life/ fertility on him. You need to get out , now , and look for someone who will value and prioritise you and wants the same things out of life.
you are worth more than this.
good luck OP x

KnowledgeableMomma · 06/02/2024 00:11

This asshole is multiple red flags rolled up into a giant red flag! Cut it off, now!

LiveLaughCryalot · 06/02/2024 00:12

As soon as an areshole senses your desperation it's a done deal. He will string you along for as long as he can.

MCOut · 06/02/2024 00:22

You know this is not a reasonable question. Get rid of him. Love in these cases is transient so you will get over it and you will meet somebody better.

Nail123 · 06/02/2024 00:23

He sounds full of lies….time to move on 💐

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 06/02/2024 00:31

He is caring and treats me decently

He was checking out other options after you decided to he exclusive, so he lied.

He constantly and unnecessarily compared you negatively to his kids, so he was mean. Saying one off that his kids are his number one priority fine, constantly doing it is nasty.

He strung you along for months while in another relationship, so he lied again and he didn't care about hurting you or her.

Instead of being upfront he waited untill you'd rekindled your relationship to tell you about his vasectomy.

What are you holding onto? Its not a choice between a good loving man and maybe having kids because you don't have a good loving man. You have one that is prepared to lie, see people behind other people's back, is nasty and highly likely lied to you about maybe wanting kids from the get go knowing it was a deal breaker for you. He's a user, he's a liar, he's self-centred to point that he doesn't care if you miss out on having kids because he strung you along until you were hooked. He's not a good man.

mrsbitaly · 06/02/2024 00:34

He is not a good person he went behind your back and dated other people and then lied about wanting children and ranked you into a list.

Yes your having good times, moments but don't just settle because he's the best out of a bad bunch.

I left my ex after 8 years as I knew I wanted a child and he decided he didn't. Best decision I ever made, I'm married now with 2 children with someone who values me.

Amybelle88 · 06/02/2024 00:34

He has not treated you well.

Because it was so different to what you've had in the past, I suspect you had some stars in your eyes and that's totally fine and totally normal.

But he's showing you who he is. Listen.

SapphOhNo · 06/02/2024 00:41

You're better off single. He sounds awful.

He's keeping his options open and stringing you along. You're not his priority.

JanglingJack · 06/02/2024 00:55

Oh no. He's played you for a fool.

You deserve much better.

Being single and self love is MUCH better.

LWSnow · 06/02/2024 00:56

Yours be better on your own

Gloriosaford · 06/02/2024 00:56

Drop him like a hot brick, I can hardly believe what a snake this man is!!
Please protect yourself OP

CaraMiaMonCher · 06/02/2024 01:07

During my time on bumble I always (politely) challenged men who still matched with me despite saying they they didn’t want children/more children - inevitably they all then say “well I’d have them with the right person” - which is surely implicit in anyones decision to have a child, nobody sets out to have them with the wrong person?

I think the vast, vast majority of those men are weak, entitled little piss babies who can’t stand to have a difficult conversation, and are absolutely incensed that they lose access to a large quantity of the dating pool when being honest in one direction or the other. Big, big red flag for me.

Guavafish1 · 06/02/2024 01:12

He is full of lies. Please don't waste your time being confused.

There are plenty more fish

RogueFemale · 06/02/2024 01:14

This man sounds really horrible. Don't waste any more time on him.

Be aware that many men on 'dating' apps and IRL are just looking for sex and will say anything to get it.

That said, it sounds as if you're looking for a sire for a baby, and in second place having a stable and loving relationship. Wrong way around.

It also sounds as if you have no other purpose in life than men/babies. What about pursuing a career, etc?

ElevenSeven · 06/02/2024 03:23

He’s full of lies. There is nothing good here. You deserve better

Kitkatcatflap · 06/02/2024 03:32

Where are your boundaries? He is a liar and a cheat. He was seeing other women on dating apps when you had both decided to be exclusive. He lied about the children thing. He puts you down and you will never be able to trust him. Is that the type of man you would want to father your kids. He will make your life an absolute misery. Leave him, stop wasting your time on this one

ConsuelaHammock · 06/02/2024 04:04

He’s telling you what you want to hear so he can have his cake and eat it. There are better men out there and one who wants what you want. You’re better off alone that with the wrong man.

WandaWonder · 06/02/2024 04:05

Is being alone really worse than this? really?