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He told me he wanted kids now I love him and he has changed his mind

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Kassie2222 · 05/02/2024 23:52

This is a long story but here goes…I finally plucked up the courage to try dating two years ago after many heartbreaks and scares. After two years of losing the will to live punctuated by nice but boring dates, a guy sent me a message on a dating app last Summer. It was a lovely complimentary message - a rarity on dating sites. So I matched with him to reply. I thanked him for the compliment but told him we would be incompatible as I want children and he had stated on his profile that he didn’t want anymore. He told me he did want more, but with the right person and there wasn’t an option to clarify this, so for simplicity, he selected the option that he did not want anymore. When I told him this wasn’t true, and he could in fact select the option that. he would consider having more, he seemed confused and said he hadn’t realised.

Against my better judgement, he managed to convince me to go on a date with him. We unexpectedly really hit it off. Sparks flew, I felt hope like I hadn’t experienced in years. I have significant trauma in my past and I didn’t have a relationship for years. I had been to years of expensive therapy to even get the courage to date again, so this was a thrilling, euphoric, liberating time. I did things with him I would never usually do - like stay at his house, let him prepare my food and drink, make time to see him regularly, and have unprotected relations with him. All was going really well and we had the talk and decided to be exclusive. This was also a very difficult relationship because from the beginning, he constantly compared me to his kids and emphasised that I would never come first and I would never compare to them.

This started to get me quite down. I was confused and hurt at the double standard that he wanted me to make him a priority in my life but he wouldn’t be willing to make me a priority in his at any time. It sounded like he was using his kids as an excuse to behave badly because everyone has important things in their lives, whether they have kids or not, and it felt unreasonable to me for this man to tell me that he wanted a relationship with me but expected me to settle for not being prioritised. I’m not saying I expected to come before his kids, but I don’t understand why he would set up this hierarchical system from the beginning when this is not applied to other relationships and everyone knows a romantic relationship is a relationship like any other and if it’s not prioritised, it won’t last.

Anyway, I unexpectedly found out he was exploring other options on dating sites while telling me he wanted to be exclusive and when I confronted him, he ended it over text. During the time I was shocked and heartbroken over this, I tried to reconnect with him and repair the relationship. He strung me along for four months and I later found out that, during this time, he was in another relationship and when it ended, he asked me if I’d like to meet up.

When we met up, he explained that he had been talking to someone from a dating site but only because they bonded over having kids.

We have since rekindled the relationship and we were talking again about my plan to have children of my own in the future. Out of the blue, he told me that he had a vasectomy while we were split up. I feel totally confused as if he had told me from the beginning he didn’t want kids, I would have never pursued anything with him, which I told him at the beginning.

i just feel like he never wanted kids in the first place and felt ok to mislead me about this as long as he got what he wanted. I just feel like maybe he doesn’t care about me or value me. Yet I’ve totally fallen for him and it’s so confusing how easily I’ve connected with him. He is caring and treats me decently, but I just don’t know if his motivations for this is to get things his own way.

I know I can’t persuade someone to have children with me but am I being unreasonable to feel hurt by his actions? I don’t know whether to stay with him because it’s the closest thing I have felt to a connection in years or if i am wasting my final fertile years on someone who is happy to let me do this because he already has his own kids with previous partners and he has already made it clear that I don’t fit into this picture

On a positive note, we laugh a lot, we can talk for hours, we feel comfortable with each other, but I can’t help feel he doesn’t see me as important enough to make me part of his life. Am I being unreasonable to feel this way?

I don’t know if it’s better to hold on to what I have rather than to let go of it in the hope I might meet someone who will want to have children with me knowing I may risk having nothing in the end. Bearing in mind, it has been over ten years since I last met a man I liked

OP posts:
Missingmyusername · 06/02/2024 04:12

“i just feel like he never wanted kids in the first place and felt ok to mislead me about this as long as he got what he wanted.” Yes, that sums it up nicely. He feels ok about using you, lying to you- he puts himself first and always will. Are you going to accept that? You had a lucky escape, now you’ve gone back for more!

ConsuelaHammock · 06/02/2024 04:14

You say you love him but his actions show he does not love you. I’m not sure he even like you that much. It may hurt to break up with him but honestly you are better off on your own. I don’t understand women who stay with crap men because they’re lonely . You get one life. Don’t waste it on an arsehole.
If you do want children, your own will drive you mad at times. I’d avoid a man with his own children already like the plague. Step families are a notoriously difficult set up.

TheOriginalEmu · 06/02/2024 05:24

I’ve been where you are with a man I loved who strung me along and it’s utter shit. He’s not treating well, he’s not kind and you deserve better. This man cannot give you what you want and there is nothing lonelier thsn being alone in a relationship.
its so hard and you have my every sympathy, truly, but you need to end this.

DeeCeeCherry · 06/02/2024 05:28

He's a creep. Sadly you're more into him than he is into you. You'd be best off disengaging and looking into help as to why you're still with a man like this. He's a waste of your time and life.

Shoxfordian · 06/02/2024 05:38

He's been wasting your time and you've let him - he's no good for you.

CurbsideProphet · 06/02/2024 05:40

Red flags central here I'm afraid. If you read it back and imagine a friend telling you this what would you think about him?

RedSuedePump · 06/02/2024 05:56

He is a creep. Don’t settle for this!

MrsJellybee · 06/02/2024 06:44

He’s an absolute cretin. Run.

WithACatLikeTread · 06/02/2024 06:56

You need to leave him. Sorry!

MindHowYouGoes · 06/02/2024 07:06

He sounds like he’s enjoying being able to toy with you - it doesn’t sound like he even likes you much let alone loves you.

are you in a position to be able to go it alone with a baby (using a sperm bank)? It’s not ideal but if you think you’ll have trouble meeting someone Else and you want a baby, that would be better than being with this rat for a second longer

MorningSunshineSparkles · 06/02/2024 07:10

You’ve fallen for another user and abuser. Perhaps you should focus heavily on yourself for a while, you sound a bit too vulnerable to be looking for a relationship atm. Have you done the freedom program? There’s a lot of good resources online for self help and how to recognise and avoid abusive relationships.

I would also avoid having a child until you’ve put in the work on yourself. It’s not fair to bring a child into the world when you’re unable to keep yourself safe.

Isthismyforever · 06/02/2024 07:16

'He is caring & treats me decently'

NO he isnt and NO he doesnt - this is not how a caring & decent human being behaves. Run away now & value yourself more.

Musntapplecrumble · 06/02/2024 07:19

Hey luv
we feel comfortable with each other
how can you feel comfortable with him, really?
What would your counsellor advise? Think you know...🙈

vincettenoir · 06/02/2024 07:22

He manipulated you and denigrated you from the start and sadly that is what made the sparks fly.

Your past trauma means you are still attracted to the feeling of being in danger and being second best. This is what you know and this is what makes you feel comfortable. Break away from these patterns while you still can.

sausagepastapot · 06/02/2024 07:31

YABU because he sounds like a total nightmare and you need to pay attention to how badly he is treating you. GTFO! You deserve more!!

DoggusDomesticus · 06/02/2024 07:43

Get yourself some self respect. This man has behaved appallingly, dishonestly, thoughtlessly and treated you like crap. He doesn't value you at all.

If you continue with him you're in for more of the same and worse.

Heronwatcher · 06/02/2024 07:47

He’s a lying cheat. You are quite right, he never wanted more children, but what’s more he’s cheated on you numerous times. Whatever you do this won’t work- get out now whilst you’ve still got time to find someone and start a family.

NeedToChangeName · 06/02/2024 07:47

He sounds awful

I suggest you look at strategies to improve your self esteem. You deserve better than this, but are currently accepting scraps

LorlieS · 06/02/2024 07:49

OP you need to move on.
And don't trust him when he says he's had a vasectomy; I know of men who have lied about that then got their partner pregnant and cleared off.

therealcookiemonster · 06/02/2024 07:51

OP him lying about wanting children is the least of your problems. he is a grade 1 walker. ditch him please.

ChangeAgain2 · 06/02/2024 07:51

Realistically, in the 9 months you have known him, he's cheated on you once that you know of, and you've been separated for 4 months the of it. You've been seeing this guy for 5 months max. This is not love and this is not a nice guy. Nice guys don't make you feel less than. Nice guys don't lie to get you invested. Nice guys don't cheat. Dump him and don't look back. Don't sacrifice your chance at having kids for this lover. Don't waste your time or your energy investing in this relationship.

EIIaJ · 06/02/2024 07:51

Hes a prick. The only thing he had done right is prioritise his kids. Run.

easilydistracted1 · 06/02/2024 07:54

Sorry to hear you've been through all this. This is not a good man. He has treated you like a backburner and is a bag of red flags. Sometimes when you have been through trauma the stuff that draws you to a new partner is actually the trauma inducing stuff because it's familiar. This is not love. Someone who loves you doesn't treat you like that. Don't waste any more time on this man. Get some therapy and focus on your boundaries and the future. Right from the start you thought you needed a boundary around him and you were right but he was able to break your boundary by charm and lies. I hope you get the family you deserve with the right person in the future.

Deafdonkey · 06/02/2024 07:55

My husband is an asshole, because I didn't value myself enough when we were dating.

Your boyfriend is an asshole, he won't change, well he will probably become more of an asshole.

Read your post, really read it- you deserve so much more.

OrigamiOwls · 06/02/2024 08:01

In a 9 month period he has:
Lied to you
Cheated on you
Broken up with you
Lied some more
Eroded your confidence
Got you to accept that you are way down the pecking order

He is not going to magically improve - he's got you right where he wants you, begging for and accepting any scrap he can be bothered to throw you.

There are so many other options out there if you want a relationship. If you're less bothered about a relationship but really keen on having a baby there are options for that too.

Cut your loses here - don't continue to throw good money after bad as it were.