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Are we being selfish

99 replies

Borntofly · 04/02/2024 02:35

DH and I have one DD, she’s 9 (year 5) super smart, talented, funny and just incredible. We were a bit older when she was born (37 and 39) DH is fast approaching 50.
We live in London, a nice area further out. DH is a consultant Ophthalmologist and I work in the civil service, we have a good combined income around the £200,000 mark.
Our DD is state educated, we could afford private and live in an area where you almost can’t move for private schools but the state school is fantastic and DD is thriving there. We were both state educated and have felt no disadvantages.
DH and I are considering moving up north, his family all live up there and as we get older we crave a slower life. Ideally we’d move before DD goes to secondary.
DD plays a sport competitively, just started playing for the county and really enjoys it, she also does ballet, plays piano and is a great singer (but hates singing lessons). She’s also just a bright, smart kid. DH is fluent in German and has taught DD loads, my French isn’t awful so I’ve taught DD French. DD is desperate to keep learning languages she thinks it’s really cool. If we moved north we have a specific area in mind which had a Grammar school, that seems to be hot on languages - offers French, German and Russian. DD already has tutor and is very bright so in theory she should get in if we moved.

Today I was with DD at a training session for her sport, I decided to stay this time but I don’t usually. I got chatting to another parent. The topic of schools came up, her child is privately educated and she straight out said “I think it is selfish when parents who could privately educate their children don’t, shows where their priorities lie!” I was a bit flabbergasted if I’m honest. We spend lots on DD from Ballet to her sport, singing, piano, tuition, travel and so much more!
She is 100% our priority, we just prefer the culture of the state school, although I know about 1/3-1/2 of her year at her current school will go to private schools for secondary it just doesn’t appeal to me at all.
I then told her about the potential move, she again said she thinks it would be selfish to take DD away from London especially as she is so good at her sport. She could still do the same sport at county level if we moved and I’m sure they will have ballet schools too! Yes she may be less likely to go pro in the sport if we moved as she’d be away from the resources/training London offers, but I don’t think DD is actually that fussed by that, she doesn’t love the competition side (but still wants to do it) and I’m sure if it became apparent she really wanted that we would find a private coach and figure it out!
I’m now up feeling really guilty thinking maybe I shouldn’t be taking her away from the opportunities London has and maybe even should be considering private as we could afford it.

Are we being selfish? AIBU wanting to move and not privately educating her?

OP posts:
Sparklfairy · 04/02/2024 02:39

That woman seems to have a lot of opinions on things that are none of her business!

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 04/02/2024 02:42

That other woman has no idea about real life and has a silver spoon hammer down her throat…. Ignore her

However, do make sure that moving up north doesn’t disadvantage your daughters sport as that would be selfish if it does

Ponoka7 · 04/02/2024 02:43

I live up north and she's right. We don't have professional sports people come from here, unless you count those sports involving ferrets and whippets. I can't think of one musician from up north and we definitely aren't bilingual. Not all private schools are equal, some state schools are better. Just do your specific research.

SweetFemaleAttitude · 04/02/2024 02:47

Ponoka7 · 04/02/2024 02:43

I live up north and she's right. We don't have professional sports people come from here, unless you count those sports involving ferrets and whippets. I can't think of one musician from up north and we definitely aren't bilingual. Not all private schools are equal, some state schools are better. Just do your specific research.

Haha. One thing you can say about is northerners. We have a fab sense of humour.

Are you the mum off Saltburn OP?

We all go to ruin if not privately educated?

We don't encourage or want the best for our children?

Overthebow · 04/02/2024 03:01

It's fine, you’re paying for the extra curricula’s and are thinking about decent state schools. We don’t shave as high an income as you, but we could afford private school too as we’re paying equivalent nursery fees, but we don’t really agree with private schools and would rather save the money for our DC for house deposits and university instead. I would feel awful if we’d paid all that money for private school but they didn’t have much money from us for those things, and experiences like decent holidays. The state schools they will be going to are good so I don’t feel guilty about prioritising that for them.

Changingplace · 04/02/2024 03:23

The other mum sounds like she’s led a pretty sheltered life and has lots of opinions that are none of her business, ignore her - ironically shes the one who sounds uneducated!

JMSA · 04/02/2024 03:29

You have one child who's the centre of your world. She's going to be fine no matter what.

Codlingmoths · 04/02/2024 03:34

Wow. At that lady.
how about you smile, say maybe when we move out of London we will have enough time on our hands to indulge in crazy judging of everyone else’s life choices too.

shreknjumps · 04/02/2024 03:41

Sport...in the NORTH? You've got to be fucking kidding me?

OffToBedforshire · 04/02/2024 04:59

She's showing you what her own worries and prejudices are and highlighting that her view of schooling and other parts of the UK are narrow and (quite frankly) wrong.
Just ignore her.
FWIW I moved from London to 'The North' at the same age as your DD. I went to a state school and played music to high grades, got brilliant A levels, went to a great uni, loved sport and played one sport internationally. We're not all knuckle draggers up here.

OffToBedforshire · 04/02/2024 05:03

Can I add that after doing a similar move as an adult with my children - it it really lovely not to have to converse with people like the woman you describe anymore. My life is definitely happier for it!

fonfusedm · 04/02/2024 05:05

Thing is you & your DH went to state school & did well so in that sense private school isn’t a must have. There are some people particularly in London that think sending their dc to a state secondary will ruin their life 🙄.

Why do you have a tutor though? To prep for the grammars?

PieAndLattes · 04/02/2024 05:16

Unless you’ve got space for little Jocasta’s pony in your Kensington mansion you’re a terrible mother and I’m calling Childline right now.

The woman you spoke to is a know it all know nothing who clearly has no understanding or appreciation for life outside her middle class London bubble. Believe it or not, some of the best sport happens outside London, and there are many great state schools. You and your DH are the only ones who know what’s best for your daughter. She sounds bright, happy, and loved - so keep doing what you think is best for her, and stop listening to snobby no-names.

username123457 · 04/02/2024 05:17

Plenty of very successful people went to public school. There's nothing wrong with it. I tend to choose schools by how they fit for my child, not whether they are public or private. I've had kids in both.

asdf33 · 04/02/2024 05:21

Would be careful about moving for a slower life, when it will definitely affect your daughter’s chances of going pro.

GreyhpundGirl · 04/02/2024 05:38

She's a knob. Personally I'd prefer my child to go to a normal school, not that our income is anything like yours, but I'm a secondary school teacher. Undoubtedly there are advantages or people wouldn't spend money on it. But state school (not even grammar) kids can and do succeed despite their parents gasp holding them back by not paying for private education.

Beezknees · 04/02/2024 06:05

YANBU. State education will be great for her. She's in a very privileged position so it's good that she will be mixing with other children who maybe aren't so privileged, I think private school often puts kids in a "bubble" and they don't learn much about the real world which is as important as an academic education. Besides if she's doing well, what's the point?

Meadowfinch · 04/02/2024 06:15

Your child is happy, doing well, confident, well educated. There's absolutely nothing selfish in your choice at all. The woman you spoke to is an ignorant snob.

My ds is at an indie because he wasn't happy, he wasn't doing well and the quality of education he had been receiving wasn't good. Now he's at a small, unfashionable school but he's happy, flourishing and back on track.

I do wish people - the Labour party downwards - would stop fixating on how education is paid for. It is the outcome that counts.

pinkstripeycat · 04/02/2024 06:27

Aren’t take that from the north? Mel b spice girls northern. Paul McCartney is northern
gazza northern
loads northern sports people and musicians

OffToBedforshire · 04/02/2024 06:29

asdf33 · 04/02/2024 05:21

Would be careful about moving for a slower life, when it will definitely affect your daughter’s chances of going pro.

Please explain how it would definitely impact her chances of going pro?

anotherdayanotherpathlesstravelled · 04/02/2024 06:30

It really depends where you mean "up north"

The opportunities really aren't the same for your child.

OffToBedforshire · 04/02/2024 06:30

pinkstripeycat · 04/02/2024 06:27

Aren’t take that from the north? Mel b spice girls northern. Paul McCartney is northern
gazza northern
loads northern sports people and musicians

I think we're supposed to persuade her not dissuade

OffToBedforshire · 04/02/2024 06:37

anotherdayanotherpathlesstravelled · 04/02/2024 06:30

It really depends where you mean "up north"

The opportunities really aren't the same for your child.

And there are opportunities 'Up North' for her child that she really will miss out on if she stays in London.

Hobbesmanc · 04/02/2024 06:41

pinkstripeycat · 04/02/2024 06:27

Aren’t take that from the north? Mel b spice girls northern. Paul McCartney is northern
gazza northern
loads northern sports people and musicians

Ha. Some great choices of inspirational Northerners 😏

MoserRothOrangeandAlmond · 04/02/2024 06:41

@Ponoka7 this must be a wind up!
Please educate yourself on professional sports people and musicians from
from the north of England! There are a lot.
Even a quick google would tell you