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To buy this when I don’t know if baby is a girl or boy?

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strawberryjeans · 23/01/2024 16:09

Lighthearted.

I’ve seen an absolutely gorgeous fleece jacket. It is definitely more suited for a girl.

I don’t know the sex of the baby yet, so it could be a total waste of a purchase if it’s a boy. Though I’m sure new with tags it would sell very well on Vinted or make a nice gift for my friend expecting at the same time. I am just worried that if I leave it, it will go out of stock!

AIBU to buy it?

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Mnk711 · 23/01/2024 19:44

@strawberryjeans can you please share the link, I want one!

SouthLondonMum22 · 23/01/2024 19:45

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 19:23

The harm will be the mother sees her son as a vehicle for the promotion of her fashionable ideas rather than a little fellow in need of her unconditional love and protection.
Although her post wasn't as extreme as mine, Toppitytop puts part of the argument extremely well on the previous page. I encourage you to read her post.

All parents 'promote' their 'fashionable ideas' on their children until they are old enough to decide what to wear themselves.

BluJanuary · 23/01/2024 19:46

I bought for both when I was expecting! Why not. I knew that if I didn't use them for my first, I might for my second. If I end up with 2 of the same I will sell the ones that weren't worn.

Mossstitch · 23/01/2024 19:46

It's gorgeous, buy what you want......all three of my adult sons were taken for girls despite not wearing pink out of the house 🤷‍♀️ (although they did wear pink pyjamas and rainbow sweatshirts at home as had cast offs from a friend with two older girls) doesn't appear to have been detrimental to them😂

Mnk711 · 23/01/2024 19:47

As an aside my friend's 3yo boy has very long hair (more than halfway down his back). She often ties his hair up in a clip or top knot. He looks great. Her dad genuinely thinks it is child abuse and gets incredibly angry about it. Apparently it will turn him gay.....😥

BIWI · 23/01/2024 19:48

@toppitytop

Come on. Have you not noticed those parents who make a point of dressing their children in the clothes of the opposite sex? I know a few, and it's soo contrived it's just embarrassing. I'm not talking about those just trying to make use of hand-me-downs or who genuinely don't care. It's a specific type of parent who loves to use their child to stealth-boast about how enlightened they are. (The OP obviously isn't one of these, but I'm surprised if you've not noticed this trend at all)

Nope.

(Posting this just so that @Dantedisciple realises that I did read all the posts on the thread.)

Still a ridiculous argument Grin

Yuckyyuckyuckity · 23/01/2024 19:49

If you don't mind him being called a girl when out and about then go for it.

Mind you my DD was sometimes referred to as a boy when she was a baby even when she wore pink!

willsandnoodle · 23/01/2024 19:52

My 2 year old son had this fleece. He also wears pink leggings. Has pink toys. Pink bedding. It's just a colour! He also has 'boy' stuff. My 9 year old son is currently very proud of his bright pink running trainers.

To buy this when I don’t know if baby is a girl or boy?
LemonLinnet · 23/01/2024 19:52

We need to stop with all this pink is for girls and blue is for boys gender nonsense. This is why certain men think they can wear a dress and it makes them a woman!! (Sorry not sorry for bringing up the trans debate)

lightelmqueen · 23/01/2024 19:55

I would've put my son in that as a baby and even up until 3 he would've worn similar.

SBHon · 23/01/2024 19:58

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 18:17

It is a lovely jacket, but perhaps don't play gender politics with your son. He is not a social experiment for you to prove you have no prejudices. He needs his mother to protect him.

The people she’d have to ‘protect’ him from are people like you who react negatively.

She wouldn’t have to protect him from any of the people who agree boys could wear it.

She’d have to protect him from you.

Maybe instead of a baby not being able to wear something warm and comfy just because it’s in a stereotypical colour, you could try to be a nicer person.

strawberryjeans · 23/01/2024 20:16

Mnk711 · 23/01/2024 19:44

@strawberryjeans can you please share the link, I want one!

It’s from Next x

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Tandora · 23/01/2024 20:56

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 19:23

The harm will be the mother sees her son as a vehicle for the promotion of her fashionable ideas rather than a little fellow in need of her unconditional love and protection.
Although her post wasn't as extreme as mine, Toppitytop puts part of the argument extremely well on the previous page. I encourage you to read her post.

How is this cardigan detrimental to loving or protecting a child?

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 20:57

BIWI · 23/01/2024 19:48

@toppitytop

Come on. Have you not noticed those parents who make a point of dressing their children in the clothes of the opposite sex? I know a few, and it's soo contrived it's just embarrassing. I'm not talking about those just trying to make use of hand-me-downs or who genuinely don't care. It's a specific type of parent who loves to use their child to stealth-boast about how enlightened they are. (The OP obviously isn't one of these, but I'm surprised if you've not noticed this trend at all)

Nope.

(Posting this just so that @Dantedisciple realises that I did read all the posts on the thread.)

Still a ridiculous argument Grin

It is an observation not an argument. It is only ridiculous if there are no such parents.

So I'm not convinced you had read that very wise post.

BIWI · 23/01/2024 21:03

Of course I read it! Hence my answer to it - 'nope'. Unless you missed that ...

IncompleteSenten · 23/01/2024 23:40

ErrolTheDragon · 23/01/2024 19:34

Decreeing that some colours are only appropriate for one sex nowadays is the epitome of a 'fashionable idea' though. It really is mere fashion. Boys used to wear frocks and they could be pink. 🤷‍♀️

Yup. For centuries boys wore dresses until 'breeching'. The age when they first wore trousers.

I saw a picture of I think it was Winston Churchill as a kid. He was in a lovely frock.

Gowlett · 23/01/2024 23:43

Babies can wear anywhere they’re small, as long as it’s comfy. Although, I had a lockdown baby, who nobody saw, so he wore lots of girls hand-me-downs. Made no difference to him!

Outthedoor24 · 23/01/2024 23:50

Op I think it looks very girlie. So I wouldn't put a boy in it.

While he might not mind as a baby he might look at photos in years to come - Muuum what were you thinking 🤔

determinedtomakethiswork · 24/01/2024 00:01

It's making me laugh, all this faux naïveté. The fact is that when any of you go shopping, you look at the women's section. When you are looking for clothes for your husbands, you look in the men's section. Stop pretending otherwise.

ErrolTheDragon · 24/01/2024 00:38

determinedtomakethiswork · 24/01/2024 00:01

It's making me laugh, all this faux naïveté. The fact is that when any of you go shopping, you look at the women's section. When you are looking for clothes for your husbands, you look in the men's section. Stop pretending otherwise.

Well yes, because I'm 5'1" with breasts. Some taller women do wear 'men's' clothes.
And as a kid, into teenage, I'd wear some of my older brothers hand-me-downs;
when my DD was primary age she'd quite often pick clothes from the 'boys' aisle (oddly enough including about the only pink item she chose after the age of about 6, a nice v neck jumper).

Of course girls wearing 'boys' clothes never gets the same negative judgment as if a boy should be seen with a bit of pink or a kitten motif instead of a dinosaur.

Justletpeopleenjoythings · 24/01/2024 02:19

determinedtomakethiswork · 24/01/2024 00:01

It's making me laugh, all this faux naïveté. The fact is that when any of you go shopping, you look at the women's section. When you are looking for clothes for your husbands, you look in the men's section. Stop pretending otherwise.

I get all my clothes except underwear from the mens section.

I also don't buy my husbands clothes. He's a grown up, he buys his own.

SBHon · 24/01/2024 05:26

determinedtomakethiswork · 24/01/2024 00:01

It's making me laugh, all this faux naïveté. The fact is that when any of you go shopping, you look at the women's section. When you are looking for clothes for your husbands, you look in the men's section. Stop pretending otherwise.

’When you’re looking for clothes for your husbands’
Sorry what? 😂

Parker231 · 24/01/2024 06:05

Outthedoor24 · 23/01/2024 23:50

Op I think it looks very girlie. So I wouldn't put a boy in it.

While he might not mind as a baby he might look at photos in years to come - Muuum what were you thinking 🤔

Why do you think it looks very girlie?

willsandnoodle · 24/01/2024 06:29

To go against the grain, I love your kitchen! It's very country cottage.

I can understand you're bored and want a change.

I would: Light worktops if you can afford stone, dark slate effect if not (my in-laws have this and it's lovely)

No tiles, just a splash back (plain or image of your choice)

Match new handles

Paint in a colour to compliment the space

Pick a floor that will tie the whole thing in!

We've not long moved into our new home, and we have a solid wood kitchen that's very dated too (I'll add pic). I'm planning on updating, not replacing.

Years ago, in a rental, I covered the kitchen doors, worktops and tiles in transfer stuff. Looked great for about a year, but by the time I was leaving a few years later it was horrible. And a pain to clean once removed.

willsandnoodle · 24/01/2024 06:29

That's annoying, wrong post.

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